The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[Deleted member 6794]

If you don't think taking less money than you know you can get is made easier by having a wife that's got a net worth that's double yours, then you're delusional. Especially when that "double" is nearly half a billion.

Brady has made enough money to live a great life even if his wife wouldn't have earned a single penny so far.

 

[Do7]

If you don't think taking less money than you know you can get is made easier by having a wife that's got a net worth that's double yours, then you're delusional. Especially when that "double" is nearly half a billion.

Bingo!

 

[gbgary]

Rodgers is above a percentage of the cap you have deemed to be too high for some random reason. Nobody agrees with you on that.

i didn't deem it too high. reality did. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-quarterback-salaries-salary-cap-kirk-cousins-free-agency

 

[Deleted member 6794]

i didn't deem it too high. reality did. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-quarterback-salaries-salary-cap-kirk-cousins-free-agency

We have discussed about it before. I don't consider it preventing the Packers or any other team from winning the Super Bowl though.

 

[PackAttack12]

Brady has made enough money to live a great life even if his wife wouldn't have earned a single penny so far.

Of course he has. Doesn't invalidate my point though.

 

[PackAttack12]

i didn't deem it too high. reality did. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-quarterback-salaries-salary-cap-kirk-cousins-free-agency

I'll be looking forward to your hiatus after the Packers win another Super Bowl or two before Rodgers hangs em up.

 

[gbgary]

Here's what it comes down to; if a QB really cares about winning then they will give up salary so that billionaires can keep more money and GM's can have an easier job.

owners don't get the money a team friendly deal creates. other players on the team do. the gm's job doesn't get easier. he's got to build a team and spend the money wisely. if anything it puts more pressure on him.

 

[gbgary]

I'll be looking forward to your hiatus after the Packers win another Super Bowl or two before Rodgers hangs em up.

hey...i'd love it...but it ain't happenin.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Of course he has. Doesn't invalidate my point though.

I was trying to make the point that Brady could take less money because of his total earnings no matter that his wife is even making more.

Of course he hasn't played for less money than other elite quarterbacks but a lot of people conveniently ignore that fact.

 

[PackAttack12]

I was trying to make the point that Brady could take less money because of his total earnings no matter that his wife is even making more.

Of course he hasn't played for less money than other elite quarterbacks but a lot of people conveniently ignore that fact.

Brady has routinely taken less than he could've gotten. He's the most accomplished quarterback in the history of the league. After 3 Super Bowls in his first 4 years, even if the Patriots wouldn't give him top dollar, other organizations would have.

This is from several months ago, but this illustrates some of the sacrifices that have been made from Brady throughout his career, and the potential earns that he left on the table:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-brady-contract-discounts-patriots-bargain-2018-7

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Brady has routinely taken less than he could've gotten. He's the most accomplished quarterback in the history of the league. After 3 Super Bowls in his first 4 years, even if the Patriots wouldn't give him top dollar, other organizations would have.

This is from several months ago, but this illustrates some of the sacrifices that have been made from Brady throughout his career, and the potential earns that he left on the table:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-brady-contract-discounts-patriots-bargain-2018-7

While Brady has helped the Patriots by restructuring his contract several times he didn't make less money in total because of it.

I have explained that in several posts in the past. Articles like that help keep the myth alive though.

 

[Mondio]

Brady is a different animal than the Rodgers situation. True, he's been compensated well over the years. They've been creating cap space by being creative some years. At some point when Brady is done they'll feel that pain. As will we I'm sure though Rodgers hopefully has a handful of years more than Brady left and as it gets closer I'm sure we'll get more creative if it appears Rodgers is still an elite QB at that time.

BUT, I have no doubts Gisselle has eased the burden of Brady's contracts. Let's be real, he's not playing for a million bucks because his wife is a billionaire practically. But I would not be at all surprised if it often meant the difference between 15 million compensation 1 year or 20. or a 25million dollar year vs a 30 million dollar year. I would not be surprised at all if his wife's earnings played a role in total money saved by NE by more than a few million dollars.

 

[PackAttack12]

While Brady has helped the Patriots by restructuring his contract several times he didn't make less money in total because of it.

I have explained that in several posts in the past. Articles like that help keep the myth alive though.

Brady could have demanded to be played like the best player in the NFL and he's never demanded that. Therefore, he's playing for considerably less money than he could get if he wanted to. That's the point. I'm not disputing that his restructures saved the Patriots money in that sense. I'm simply arguing that Brady has been okay with taking less money than he's worth, and less money than he could command if he wanted to.

THAT is the point I'm making. And that point is indisputable.

 

[PackAttack12]

As it relates to Brady's wife, he HIMSELF has made the comment that his wife makes a lot of money, making it easier to play for less. That has come out of Brady's mouth in the past. So I really don't understand the argument against that point.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

BUT, I have no doubts Gisselle has eased the burden of Brady's contracts. Let's be real, he's not playing for a million bucks because his wife is a billionaire practically. But I would not be at all surprised if it often meant the difference between 15 million compensation 1 year or 20. or a 25million dollar year vs a 30 million dollar year. I would not be surprised at all if his wife's earnings played a role in total money saved by NE by more than a few million dollars.

Yet the Patriots have allocated a total of $14 million more in cap space to Brady than Rodgers has against the Packers cap since he has been paid as a starter in 2008.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I'm simply arguing that Brady has been okay with taking less money than he's worth, and less money than he could command if he wanted to.

THAT is the point I'm making. And that point is indisputable.

Once again, at the end of this season Brady will have counted a total of $195.2 million towards the Patriots cap from 2008-19, Rodgers $181.1 million towards the Packers one.

All with Brady being six years older than Rodgers. I think there should be way more dispute about Brady having taken less money.

 

[Mondio]

Yet the Patriots have allocated a total of $14 million more in cap space to Brady than Rodgers has against the Packers cap since he has been paid as a starter in 2008.

That's fine, he's been winning super bowls since 2001. He likely could have signed even bigger contracts.

 

[PackAttack12]

Once again, at the end of this season Brady will have counted a total of $195.2 million towards the Patriots cap from 2008-19, Rodgers $181.1 million towards the Packers one.

All with Brady being six years older than Rodgers. I think there should be way more dispute about Brady having taken less money.

I'm not anti-Rodgers in this, believe me. I'm saying Brady could have demanded more. That's all.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

owners don't get the money a team friendly deal creates. other players on the team do. the gm's job doesn't get easier. he's got to build a team and spend the money wisely. if anything it puts more pressure on him.

Who exactly do you think writes the checks? You don't think the owner pockets the money they don't spend if they aren't exactly at the cap? Yes, the owners DEFINITELY get to keep the money they don't spend. It's literally the entire reason the CBA contains language about how close teams need to be to the spending cap.

 

[swhitset]

If you don't think taking less money than you know you can get is made easier by having a wife that's got a net worth that's double yours, then you're delusional. Especially when that "double" is nearly half a billion.

Delusional is thinking that they don’t have a prenup and that Tom has access to any of her money anyway ...

 

[Do7]

If you ain't no punk, holla we want prenup! XD

 

[PackAttack12]

Delusional is thinking that they don’t have a prenup and that Tom has access to any of her money anyway ...

Well Tom has said in the past that part of the reason he takes less is because his wife, and I quote, "makes a lot of money". So what you're saying really doesn't mean all that much to me.

 

[swhitset]

Well Tom has said in the past that part of the reason he takes less is because his wife, and I quote, "makes a lot of money". So what you're saying really doesn't mean all that much to me.

Likewise

 

[PackAttack12]

Likewise

Feel free to argue with Brady though about the words that come directly from his mouth while still acting as if you're correct.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Feel free to argue with Brady though about the words that come directly from his mouth while still acting as if you're correct.

The article you shared makes it pretty clear that Brady has taken less (or could have commanded more) of the salary cap. I’ve suspected this for a few years, so thanks for sharing that article.