The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[swhitset]

Feel free to argue with Brady though about the words that come directly from his mouth while still acting as if you're correct.

Feel free to keep making unsubstantiated claims. But I won’t see them anyway.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If you don't think taking less money than you know you can get is made easier by having a wife that's got a net worth that's double yours, then you're delusional. Especially when that "double" is nearly half a billion.

While I get the point that many like to make about Brady "needing less" due to his wife being worth so much and all the money the 2 have combined, etc. I seriously doubt many of these guys making $18M+/year are really too concerned about having another source of income in the family to "help out the family." and that becomes their driving force on the decision of "do I take less or need more?" Every person has a different outlook on their value and what they expect to get paid, if Brady is actually taking less then he is worth, which is debatable as well, I seriously doubt a big factor in it is him saying to himself "Gisele has me covered, I can take $5M less."

 

[Mondio]

a prenup would apply in the event that they get divorced.

While I get the point that many like to make about Brady "needing less" due to his wife being worth so much and all the money the 2 have combined, etc. I seriously doubt many of these guys making $18M+/year are really too concerned about having another source of income in the family to "help out the family." and that becomes their driving force on the decision of "do I take less or need more?" Every person has a different outlook on their value and what they expect to get paid, if Brady is actually taking less then he is worth, which is debatable as well, I seriously doubt a big factor in it is him saying to himself "Gisele has me covered, I can take $5M less."

He may not be saying, "Giselle has me covered" but he might not sit with his agent and say get me 30 when they offer 25.

I think they're all overpaid, but Brady could have pretty easily made more based on his success as a QB relative to the pay and success of other QB's in the NFL.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think they're all overpaid, but Brady could have pretty easily made more based on his success as a QB relative to the pay and success of other QB's in the NFL.

First of all....TOTALLY agree with "they are ALL overpaid". But we could spend days talking about that.

Brady possibly being underpaid, I don't disagree with that, if that is actually the case, since I have ready various things about how his contract is actually structured. My point was, with as much money as many players in the NFL are now making, having a second source of income from a wife, parent, kid, whatever, isn't probably the driving force behind "needing" more or settling for less.

 

[PackAttack12]

Feel free to keep making unsubstantiated claims. But I won’t see them anyway.

Unsubstantiated? It came directly from the man's mouth! How much more substance are you looking for???

While I get the point that many like to make about Brady "needing less" due to his wife being worth so much and all the money the 2 have combined, etc. I seriously doubt many of these guys making $18M+/year are really too concerned about having another source of income in the family to "help out the family." and that becomes their driving force on the decision of "do I take less or need more?" Every person has a different outlook on their value and what they expect to get paid, if Brady is actually taking less then he is worth, which is debatable as well, I seriously doubt a big factor in it is him saying to himself "Gisele has me covered, I can take $5M less."

The words came out of Brady's mouth. Why is that not good enough for some of you?

 

[Mondio]

First of all....TOTALLY agree with "they are ALL overpaid". But we could spend days talking about that.

Brady possibly being underpaid, I don't disagree with that, if that is actually the case, since I have ready various things about how his contract is actually structured. My point was, with as much money as many players in the NFL are now making, having a second source of income from a wife, parent, kid, whatever, isn't probably the driving force behind "needing" more or settling for less.

You'd be surprised how much more you think you need the more you make.

 

[Do7]

You'd be surprised how much more you think you need the more you make.

You can never have enough money. Not in this lifetime.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Unsubstantiated? It came directly from the man's mouth! How much more substance are you looking for???

The words came out of Brady's mouth. Why is that not good enough for some of you?

Again, if you want to fully believe that the only reason Brady "takes less money" is because of his wife, then you don't fully understand him, the situation or sarcasm.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...gisele-bundchen-salary-wife-nfl-a8898436.html

“Actually, it’s a salary cap and you can only spend so much and the more one guy gets it’s less for the others,” he said. “And for a competitive advantage standpoint, I like to get a lot of good players around me.”

 

[PackAttack12]

Again, if you want to fully believe that the only reason Brady "takes less money" is because of his wife, then you don't fully understand him, the situation or sarcasm.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...gisele-bundchen-salary-wife-nfl-a8898436.html

“Actually, it’s a salary cap and you can only spend so much and the more one guy gets it’s less for the others,” he said. “And for a competitive advantage standpoint, I like to get a lot of good players around me.”

I never said “fully”. I would implore you to find where I did. What I said was that those who think it doesn’t play a factor into it at all might be a bit delusional.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Unsubstantiated? It came directly from the man's mouth! How much more substance are you looking for???

The words came out of Brady's mouth. Why is that not good enough for some of you?

I never said “fully”. I would implore you to find where I did. What I said was that those who think it doesn’t play a factor into it at all might be a bit delusional.

Do you understand sarcasm? You are taking something Brady said sarcastically and probably said in response to the same notion you and others seem to be a bit delusional yourselves about.

 

[Do7]

Guys we're on the same side here aren't we?

 

[PackAttack12]

Do you understand sarcasm? You are taking something Brady said sarcastically and probably said in response to the same notion you and others seem to be a bit delusional yourselves about.

I’m not going to continue going back and forth about this. Tom Brady would not be taking these “hometown discounts” if he were a single man with no other supporting income, like is the case with Rodgers.

The one superstar quarterback in the NFL that does it just so happens to be married to a model that’s worth half a billion. Lol. But that has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Forgive me if I remain skeptical.

 

[PackAttack12]

Guys we're on the same side here aren't we?

Aw hell. Me and PB are fine. We don’t end up on opposite sides of the fence very often. When we are, might as well trade a few jabs

 

[GleefulGary]

Have we mentioned that Tom Brady gets paid by the Patriots in other ways?

Brady owns TB12, which the Patriots use for "sports therapy". Now the Pats actually pay for the services, while other medical programs actually pay NFL teams for the right to treat their players (basically an advertisement for themselves). If you think this doesn't play into his salary, you're kidding yourself.

 

[Do7]

Have we mentioned that Tom Brady gets paid by the Patriots in other ways?

Brady owns TB12, which the Patriots use for "sports therapy". Now the Pats actually pay for the services, while other medical programs actually pay NFL teams for the right to treat their players (basically an advertisement for themselves). If you think this doesn't play into his salary, you're kidding yourself.

Plus if i'm not mistaken once he retires he's going to get a huge bonus or something along those lines. I wouldn't be surprised if he has part ownership.

 

[swhitset]

Do you understand sarcasm? You are taking something Brady said sarcastically and probably said in response to the same notion you and others seem to be a bit delusional yourselves about.

What’s amusing to me is that Pack attack’s own link reports that Brady has earned 197 million dollars so far on his own, and yet we are suppposed to believe that he is relying on his wife’s fortune to supplement his “lower” earnings.

 

[PackAttack12]

What’s amusing to me is that Pack attack’s own link reports that Brady has earned 197 million dollars so far on his own, and yet we are suppposed to believe that he is relying on his wife’s fortune to supplement his “lower” earnings.

My position has been misrepresented from the beginning. Again, all I’ve said is that Brady has taken a little less throughout the years due to several factors. Some of which include playing for Belichick, wanting to be on a winning team, making it easier to obtain good talent on the roster, etc.

But I’m also saying another factor (it could be 90% of the factor, it could be 1% of the factor) is that Brady’s wife is loaded. You cannot tell me with a straight face that the fact that he is married to someone as well off as she is plays ZERO factor in him taking less money than he knows he could get. I mean...come on now. Let’s be for real. Doesn’t play into it at all?

THAT is the point of my frustration.

I’m done now.

 

[rmontro]

Well Tom has said in the past that part of the reason he takes less is because his wife, and I quote, "makes a lot of money". So what you're saying really doesn't mean all that much to me.

I might point out that Brady himself is also stating that he takes less money than he could.

We've discussed this before. Brady is the most accomplished QB in the history of football. Throughout most of his career, he could have demanded to be the top paid player in the league. In any given year, he has not done that. However, he signs short, frequent contracts, and that results in his pay staying current with the going rates, and in his total earnings over time being high.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

The Patsies don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. As far as I'm concerned, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Kraft pays Brady under the table.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Again, if you want to fully believe that the only reason Brady "takes less money" is because of his wife, then you don't fully understand him, the situation or sarcasm.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...gisele-bundchen-salary-wife-nfl-a8898436.html

“Actually, it’s a salary cap and you can only spend so much and the more one guy gets it’s less for the others,” he said. “And for a competitive advantage standpoint, I like to get a lot of good players around me.”

Wow. All that proves is that Brady knows how NOT to stick his foot in his mouth. What, you seriously expected him to say, " Well my wife makes a LOT of money so I can take less since my income isn't the primary source of generational wealth accumulation." You must also believe all those GMs that say they drafted the guy they wanted all along too?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Wow. All that proves is that Brady knows how NOT to stick his foot in his mouth. What, you seriously expected him to say, " Well my wife makes a LOT of money so I can take less since my income isn't the primary source of generational wealth accumulation." You must also believe all those GMs that say they drafted the guy they wanted all along too?

I realize you are someone who loves to use your Red X, but before Red X'ing my previous post and really making no sense at all in your own follow up post, you might want to read the article and watch the Brady interview on the Jimmy Kimmel show. Because, that IS exactly what he said, tongue firmly in his cheek.

Your comment about GM's has really nothing to do with anything, except your desire to create yet another straw man argument.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I’m not going to continue going back and forth about this. Tom Brady would not be taking these “hometown discounts” if he were a single man with no other supporting income, like is the case with Rodgers.

How do you know this? You really don't think Tom Brady or Aaron Rodger or "fill in name here", don't make enough money in the NFL to provide for a wife, 30 kids, 6 goat farmers and their families?

We aren't talking about a guy making $25K/year and says "nahhh, I don't need $30K my wife's job pays her $40K.

 

[Mondio]

How do you know this? You really don't think Tom Brady or Aaron Rodger or "fill in name here", don't make enough money in the NFL to provide for a wife, 30 kids, 6 goat farmers and their families?

We aren't talking about a guy making $25K/year and says "nahhh, I don't need $30K my wife's job pays her $40K.

Relative to NFL quarterbacks, do you think Brady has made as much as he could have?

And there’s a difference between saying you don’t need more money or asking for more than is offered or negotiating for more

 

[Do7]

And again I believe Brady is due for a huge payday the moment he retires. And besides Brady is the one exception to the rule and there are plenty of legitimate factors behind his hometown discounts. Perhaps he really doesn't need all that money and is looking out for his team, but it's definitely easier with what's at his disposal. You certainly don't see other QBs trying to make less.

 

[swhitset]

Relative to NFL quarterbacks, do you think Brady has made as much as he could have?

And there’s a difference between saying you don’t need more money or asking for more than is offered or negotiating for more

That really isn’t the argument that some of us have been having. While I do actually think Brady could have demanded more based on the success he has had in the NFL, he has still made a ridiculous amount of money. I don’t believe for one second that the reason he doesn’t demand more has anything to do with his wife’s net worth. There are many much more plausible alternatives... such as actually wanting the team to win, his seemingly father/son like relationship with Bob Kraft... etc...