The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

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Why is it always another off player to blame? Its okay to say rodgers should ran it in. Its okay to say he had a few mis throws

Def got 3 ints on Brady...THREE..Def was good last few weeks..at some point everyone has to step it up

exactly.

We interecepted Tom Brady 3 TIMES in the 2nd half... good plays by the D.

But ultimately, they just made more plays than us to win the game
 

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I’d say getting is to 26 behind a line that was getting manhandled at the tackle positions and without a running game was a pretty damn good performance from our QB. He was continuosly having to avoid heavy pressure to do anything. I don’t care if he wasn’t absolutely perfect, it’s hard to expect more in that situation. What good is a turnover when you can’t even drop back to pass without getting hit before you even get set?

Give a team 6 turnovers and the run game and pass protection we had tonight and any other QB, we’re lucky to score 10
 

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Why is it always another off player to blame? Its okay to say rodgers should ran it in. Its okay to say he had a few mis throws

Def got 3 ints on Brady...THREE..Def was good last few weeks..at some point everyone has to step it up
It's also okay to say that once again, Rodgers was failed by some of the ones around him.
 

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I’d say getting is to 26 behind a line that was getting manhandled at the tackle positions and without a running game was a pretty damn good performance from our QB. He was continuosly having to avoid heavy pressure to do anything. I don’t care if he wasn’t absolutely perfect, it’s hard to expect more in that situation. What good is a turnover when you can’t even drop back to pass without getting hit before you even get set?

Give a team 6 turnovers and the run game and pass protection we had tonight and any other QB, we’re lucky to score 10
This.
 

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I'm sick of Rodgers not getting enough support. Tonight was another shining example of that.
Makes you wonder if things would have been any different if we had gotten a top defensive player with our #1 pick.

Def got 3 ints on Brady...THREE..Def was good last few weeks..at some point everyone has to step it up
If you would have told me that we were going to intercept Brady three times, I would have been pretty confident that we were going to win the game.

I actually thought we were going to win anyway, but it almost didn't even look like the same team we've seen all year. At the beginning of the game, the Bucs looked ready to play on both sides of the ball, and we didn't. So make of that whatever you will. And I don't know what MLF thought that he was going to exploit against Tampa, but whatever it was, it wasn't working.
 

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Makes you wonder if things would have been any different if we had gotten a top defensive player with our #1 pick.


If you would have told me that we were going to intercept Brady three times, I would have been pretty confident that we were going to win the game.

I actually thought we were going to win anyway, but it almost didn't even look like the same team we've seen all year. At the beginning of the game, the Bucs looked ready to play on both sides of the ball, and we didn't. So make of that whatever you will. And I don't know what MLF thought that he was going to exploit against Tampa, but whatever it was, it wasn't working.
To your point about not being ready to play, which is accurate, it really makes you wonder about Lafleur. Not that he deserves to lose his job, but what is he doing wrong in these situations?

This is two years in a row. It's a fair question. If the 2nd half goes like the first half, we mop the floor with them.
 

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First and goal inside the 10 twice and we come away with 6 points.... that’s the game right there. Combination of poor play calling, poor decision making and poor execution. Rodgers has a big slice of the blame pie there but by no means all
 

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First and goal inside the 10 twice and we come away with 6 points.... that’s the game right there. Combination of poor play calling, poor decision making and poor execution. Rodgers has a big slice of the blame pie there but by no means all
It was probably Ted’s fault.
 

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There's a lot of blame to go around. But you could say the D redeemed themselves with 3 picks in the second half. How often does that happen against Brady? Might be the first time in his career.

The D gave Rodgers a chance to win it. Just make one play. One stinking play. If you are supposedly one of the greatest ever, and you have 3 shots from inside the 10 yard line, I expect you to convert on one of those 3 tries. Brady sure as hell would have.

Sadly, Rodgers is just another Regular Season GOAT, and far from it in the postseason.
 
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There's a lot of blame to go around. But you could say the D redeemed themselves with 3 picks in the second half. How often does that happen against Brady? Might be the first time in his career.

The D gave Rodgers a chance to win it. Just make one play. One stinking play. If you are supposedly one of the greatest ever, and you have 3 shots from inside the 10 yard line, I expect you to convert on one of those 3 tries. Brady sure as hell would have.

Sadly, Rodgers is just another Regular Season GOAT, and far from it in the postseason.

It was the 13th time in Brady's career that he had at least thrown three interceptions.

While the Packers defense did a great job picking him off three times you have to realize that the offense received the ball on their own 32, 19 and 24 in those instances. That made it significantly tougher to take advantage of it compared to the Bucs starting from the Packers 8 after Jones' fumble.

It's true Rodgers hasn't been perfect in playoff losses but that's completely unrealistic to expect in the first place. On the other hand it should have been possible to surround him with more talent but unfortunately that hasn't happened. As an example, the team has given up an average of 35.8 (!!!) points in the nine playoff games the team has lost since 2009.
 
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Going by his statement, he's considering other players moving away, esp Aaron Jones. If he doesn't get guarantee on more weapons in O, he might consider being traded (like he already is imo).

Rodgers has a salary-cap charge of $36.3 million in 2021 and $39.9 million in 2022. If he and the team were to go their separate ways after the 2021 season, the Packers would save $22.648 million in salary-cap space but would have to count $17.204 million in dead money. If they moved on after this season, they would save only $4.76 million on the cap and have $31.556 million in dead money.
 

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First and goal inside the 10 twice and we come away with 6 points.... that’s the game right there. Combination of poor play calling, poor decision making and poor execution. Rodgers has a big slice of the blame pie there but by no means all

The red zone and goal to go offence that had been so lethal all season suddenly looked unsure of itself and tight.There were six plays inside the 10 on those two drives. None of them were runs. Why?
 

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The red zone and goal to go offence that had been so lethal all season suddenly looked unsure of itself and tight.There were six plays inside the 10 on those two drives. None of them were runs. Why?
because we were completely ineffective running the ball. They didn't even have to play the run, the stuffed us anyway. There was zero push the entire game. I think we had 1 decent run by Williams, one wide by Jones. Then we played a half down by 18 to start.
 

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Why is it always another off player to blame? Its okay to say rodgers should ran it in. Its okay to say he had a few mis throws

Def got 3 ints on Brady...THREE..Def was good last few weeks..at some point everyone has to step it up
Agreed. Things weren't ideal, but the defense (with the exception of King) did more than enough to win that game. We really missed David yesterday. But even still Rodgers missed an open Lazard, and could've at least try to run it to get closer.
 

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The red zone and goal to go offence that had been so lethal all season suddenly looked unsure of itself and tight.There were six plays inside the 10 on those two drives. None of them were runs. Why?

Because they ran it a few times and got stuffed so they thought the prudent move was to never ever run the ball again. They lost all creativity, especially on those last 3 plays, and counted on the WR's to fight themselves open.
 

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Because they ran it a few times and got stuffed so they thought the prudent move was to never ever run the ball again. They lost all creativity, especially on those last 3 plays, and counted on the WR's to fight themselves open.
lets not loose perspective. We ran, very ineffectively, but we did. Then we opened the 2nd half, turned it over and started the 2nd half of football down 18 points. We battled back.

Then we were at the 8, with time winding down. They weren't playing the run hard because they didn't have to. Were you confident a running play makes them change their defense to open up a pass? or score? I wasn't. About all I think it does at that point would be to use a down and take more time off the clock.
 

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I can't listen to this "Rodgers doesn't have any help" garbage anymore that I'm hearing this morning from the various news outlets. This season he had one of the best WR's in the league, one of the best RB's in the league, one of the best TE's in the league in Tonyan, and one of the best OL's in the league. Perhaps we could have used one more key player on defense but holy cow. It was a shame jones got hurt last night and had a terrible fumble and Bak previously, but that's football sometimes. Tampa Bay was banged up as well.

I'm sick of Rodgers getting a pass because of a lack of teammates. Brady has won with less. He did it last night. Is anyone realistically choosing the TB roster over GBs? But you know what, Brady is coming up with a score on 1st and goal from the 8 regardless of what the playcall is.
 

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I can't listen to this "Rodgers doesn't have any help" garbage anymore that I'm hearing this morning from the various news outlets. This season he had one of the best WR's in the league, one of the best RB's in the league, one of the best TE's in the league in Tonyan, and one of the best OL's in the league. Perhaps we could have used one more key player on defense but holy cow. It was a shame jones got hurt last night and had a terrible fumble and Bak previously, but that's football sometimes. Tampa Bay was banged up as well.

I'm sick of Rodgers getting a pass because of a lack of teammates. Brady has won with less. He did it last night. Is anyone realistically choosing the TB roster over GBs? But you know what, Brady is coming up with a score on 1st and goal from the 8 regardless of what the playcall is.
Hate to say it but you're right. Rodgers had opportunities, and yes things weren't ideal, but you have to make the most with what you have. But in the interest of fairness Brady did have a clean pocket in comparison to Rodgers.
 

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Tom always makes "just enough plays" to win and really that is all that really matters

Besides 2007 and that one other MVP year he had he will never be like a stat king or anything
 

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I expected the Bucs to be good but I didn't expect Brady to take them to the Super Bowl in his first year. Disgusting.

That's the part that really irks me - Brady DIDN'T take them to the SB, they're going in spite of him. However, the sport world will continue to bow to him, and now, worst of all, I'll have to root for KC to repeat.
 

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It's true Rodgers hasn't been perfect in playoff losses but that's completely unrealistic to expect in the first place. On the other hand it should have been possible to surround him with more talent but unfortunately that hasn't happened. As an example, the team has given up an average of 35.8 (!!!) points in the nine playoff games the team has lost since 2009.
It's the same theme just about every single year. Just sickens me.
 

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I can't listen to this "Rodgers doesn't have any help" garbage anymore that I'm hearing this morning from the various news outlets. This season he had one of the best WR's in the league, one of the best RB's in the league, one of the best TE's in the league in Tonyan, and one of the best OL's in the league. Perhaps we could have used one more key player on defense but holy cow. It was a shame jones got hurt last night and had a terrible fumble and Bak previously, but that's football sometimes. Tampa Bay was banged up as well.

I'm sick of Rodgers getting a pass because of a lack of teammates. Brady has won with less. He did it last night. Is anyone realistically choosing the TB roster over GBs? But you know what, Brady is coming up with a score on 1st and goal from the 8 regardless of what the playcall is.
I would have loved to play Brady with Wagner and Turner playing like the did at tackle. He may have thrown 7 INT's. Flip it over, I suppose Brady would have willed Lazard to look for the ball and it just would have been so. Rodgers played a good game. he outplayed brady and brady's team was stacked.He wasn't working with less at all.
 

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It was the 13th time in Brady's career that he had at least thrown three interceptions.
I was talking about in one half.

While the Packers defense did a great job picking him off three times you have to realize that the offense received the ball on their own 32, 19 and 24 in those instances. That made it significantly tougher to take advantage of it compared to the Bucs starting from the Packers 8 after Jones' fumble.

Doesn't matter where you get the ball if you just go 3-and-out on consecutive possessions, with 6 dropbacks and only 1 completion. An all-time great should do better than that. What an utter waste of Jaire's heroics.
 

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because we were completely ineffective running the ball. They didn't even have to play the run, the stuffed us anyway. There was zero push the entire game. I think we had 1 decent run by Williams, one wide by Jones. Then we played a half down by 18 to start.

The stats show us averaging 4.2 yds/carry yesterday, that's not bad at all.
 
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