Ted Thompson Era Should Be Over

[Pokerbrat2000]

Have you been to GB?

I was there on Sunday and witnessed this......

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[brandon2348]

Have you been to GB?

Was born in Green Bay and grew up there. Also spent time in Madison
One of the best places to live as far as I'm concerned. People are so nice and it's just a great place.

Plus Green Bay has the tradition and a QB like Aaron Rodgers that a lot of guys want to play with. I believe Packer nation shorts themselves a bit and thats why they hang onto Ted Thompson.

Things could be way more beautifull.

Kansas City however you are at risk to get shot while walking your dog and that's in a decent area too. It's a ****e* armpit.

 

[Half Empty]

Sorry. As often happens, the baby got thrown out with the bathwater. Originally, I was responding to

It's way harder to retain players in KC then in Green Bay.

and questioned from where the backup for that opinion came. I'm almost always willing to accept 'I think...', but just to state that seemed strange, especially after all times we've seen opinions posted that it's hard to get players to come to GB (hence the smiley for being in GB). And, given my own, stereotypical, opinion of pro athletes in general, I'm not sure those photos or the comments lend themselves to the proposition that it would be harder to sell many/most of those guys on KC. Us, sure.

 

[brandon2348]

Sorry. As often happens, the baby got thrown out with the bathwater. Originally, I was responding to

and questioned from where the backup for that opinion came. I'm almost always willing to accept 'I think...', but just to state that seemed strange, especially after all times we've seen opinions posted that it's hard to get players to come to GB (hence the smiley for being in GB). And, given my own, stereotypical, opinion of pro athletes in general, I'm not sure those photos or the comments lend themselves to the proposition that it would be harder to sell many/most of those guys on KC. Us, sure.

Bottom line is it's one of hundreds excuses I've heard on here from some posters why Packers can't sign top free agents. Kansas City is 120 degree heat index in the summer(miserable) and isn't much warmer in the winter(roughly 10 degrees in the winter. They don't have near the tradition of the Packers but I do give the fans credit for packing there stadium on Sunday. On top of that it is a smaller city in comparisons to the LA's, New York's or even Atlanta's and Dallas. KC is a smaller city and is littered with drugs and crime. Bullets ring throughout the night. Other then having great bbq the place is more or less a s*it hole. Can easily see why many players wouldn't want to play here.

 

[PikeBadger]

*****.... that's the most ridiculous ASSUMPTION I've ever heard. If you really think that Rodgers is or was in any way comparable to Hundley.. I have no idea how to relate to anything else you may think or say.

Then you have a lousy memory as to where Rodgers skill level was from 2005-2007. He was no where close to being an average NFL QB at that time.

 

[adambr2]

Then you have a lousy memory as to where Rodgers skill level was from 2005-2007. He was no where close to being an average NFL QB at that time.

His entire sample size in 3 seasons from 2005-07 was 35 for 59 for 329 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT.

How would anyone have any earthly idea as to what his skill level was compared to an average NFL QB during that timeframe?

 

[swhitset]

His entire sample size in 3 seasons from 2005-07 was 35 for 59 for 329 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT.

How would anyone have any earthly idea as to what his skill level was compared to an average NFL QB during that timeframe?

Agreed.... however I'll take those stats over Hundley's ..... not to mention the fact that Rodgers was a first round draft pick.... predicted by many to go number 1 overall. Hundley was a 5th rounder that Thompson reached for by trading up in the 5th to get. Again the idea that we should compare the two players is patently laughably ridiculous. I will also add that my memory is pretty damned good, and that despite misgivings about Rodgers' ability to stay healthy he looked pretty decent to me when he did get a chance to play. Sure he made mistakes, but sometimes you can just see when a player has potential.... Rodgers did "look" like he had something . Hundley looks lost and scared... and always has.

 

[Poppa San]

One thing I'm sure that I missed was - whose job is it to have a decent backup QB on the team?

That's not a reason to fire anyone. You can't know what you have until you put him on the field with when the bullets are live. If he's still here next year, then it would be a problem.

People here should go back a year and look at Jarod Goffs stats for his 7 starts before they crucify Hundley.
rec Comp Att Comp% Yards TDs TD% Int Int% Y/A Y/G Rate QBR Sacks
0-7-0 112 205 54.6 1089 5 2.4 7 3.4 5.3 155.6 63.6 22.2 26

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

People here should go back a year and look at Jarod Goffs stats for his 7 starts before they crucify Hundley.
rec Comp Att Comp% Yards TDs TD% Int Int% Y/A Y/G Rate QBR Sacks
0-7-0 112 205 54.6 1089 5 2.4 7 3.4 5.3 155.6 63.6 22.2 26

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[Poppa San]

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GAWD I hate that meme

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

People here should go back a year and look at Jarod Goffs stats for his 7 starts before they crucify Hundley.
rec Comp Att Comp% Yards TDs TD% Int Int% Y/A Y/G Rate QBR Sacks
0-7-0 112 205 54.6 1089 5 2.4 7 3.4 5.3 155.6 63.6 22.2 26

Problem is Jeff Fisher's offenses made a lot of QBs look bad in them, including the guy who's currently doing ok in Minny. I'm pretty sure even if you stuck Hundley in McVay's offense, he'd suck just as bad.

Also, why do people think Hundley should be expected to play like a raw rookie when he's had 3 years to learn MM's playbook?

All I can say is, whoever that is that was looking to buy BH off of Ted Thomspon in the draft is thinking "whewwweee thank god I didn't get fleeced"

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

GAWD I hate that meme

come on it's a classic moment in cinema and a universal symbol of "are you kidding me?"

Although I can't remember, did he end up getting the girl?

 

[Poppa San]

Also, why do people think Hundley should be expected to play like a raw rookie when he's had 3 years to learn MM's playbook?

Practice cannot replicate a game. As such, he is a raw rookie.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I still think he was nothing more than a glorified RB playing zone-read offense at UCLA.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Practice cannot replicate a game. As such, he is a raw rookie.

Practice, preseason, film room, sidelines, meetings, conversations with Rodgers, etc. Hundley is far from a Rookie as far as the knowledge and practice reps he should have to this point in his career. Yes, you are right, he didn't have much Regular season action prior to this, but he still looks and plays like a guy who was drafted this year.

 

[Poppa San]

Practice, preseason, film room, sidelines, meetings, conversations with Rodgers, etc. Hundley is far from a Rookie as far as the knowledge and practice reps he should have to this point in his career. Yes, you are right, he didn't have much Regular season action prior to this, but he still looks and plays like a guy who was drafted this year.

All fine and dandy until the hits the fan during the game. A defense actually setting out to disrupt your plans. Not processing the options available fast enough. He's thinking, not playing.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

All fine and dandy until the hits the fan during the game. A defense actually setting out to disrupt your plans. Not processing the options available fast enough. He's thinking, not playing.

If your theory is correct and we shouldn't expect much from a 3rd year guy like Betty, what does that say to you about the decision makers in Green Bay that put the fate of a playoff caliber team in the hands of someone with little or no experience? Did they not think this would be the result or did they figure Aaron was bullet proof?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I have wondered what would have happened had Aaron gone down in the opening game of the season and Hundley came in and played like this. Would TT have said, enough is enough and gone out and traded for another QB or just said "well....injuries, what are you going to do?"

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I agree, while a guy who hasn't been given meaningful regular season action over preseason action will be less polished and not as great at decision-making, being reared up 3 years should still be reason enough to expect better out of him. Some guys are just not going to get it, and Hundley has proven such.

 

[swhitset]

come on it's a classic moment in cinema and a universal symbol of "are you kidding me?"

Although I can't remember, did he end up getting the girl?

I have to agree with Poppa San... I can't stand Jim Carey though so....

 

[swhitset]

Practice, preseason, film room, sidelines, meetings, conversations with Rodgers, etc. Hundley is far from a Rookie as far as the knowledge and practice reps he should have to this point in his career. Yes, you are right, he didn't have much Regular season action prior to this, but he still looks and plays like a guy who was drafted this year.

worse than many rookies I've seen.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

worse than many rookies I've seen.

Including Trubisky who's certainly going through growing pains but at least took the Vikings and Lions down to the wire.

 

[Bob 61]

Man I don't know. I gotta agree with a lot of people here that there is just something holding this team back from getting over the top and it just seems to be coming from the front office. I think Ted has been a highly successful GM for most of his time here, but I really think he needs to step down and pass the torch onto someone else that might bring just a few more methods to town for filling needs.

Much has been made about MM going stale, and maybe he is, but I haven't given up on him still being able to coach and win a big one. But I think TT should retire and take the staleness out of the front office. Do that and I think the product on the field will change.

Elliot Wolf, you're up man.

TT& Capers really have to go after this year. Along with a couple of players along that defensive side of the ball. CM really stands out as someone who needs to b let go

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

TT& Capers really have to go after this year. Along with a couple of players along that defensive side of the ball. CM really stands out as someone who needs to b let go

If....both TT and Capers are still around after this year I don't see Capers still being in Green Bay in 2018.

Hasn't TT really been going after improving the defense for 6 straight drafts and even this year throwing in FA's? When do they decide enough is enough?

 

[swhitset]

TT& Capers really have to go after this year. Along with a couple of players along that defensive side of the ball. CM really stands out as someone who needs to b let go

The thing about Mathews is funny to me... yes he is overpaid, but I don't see many people clamoring to cut Ahmad Brooks or any of the other Jags we have floating around. I really think people need to stop thinking with their emotions. Mathews is still better than anyone else we have to replace him with. I'm certainly fine with trying to get him to take a pay cut, but unless you have somebody better to replace him with stop with the ridiculous assertions about how much he sucks simply because he is no longer a legitimate pro bowler.