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We kind of did that at the end of regulation.Back in the day I always felt McCarthy coached not to lose instead of to win. He probably wishes he did that today.
We kind of did that at the end of regulation.Back in the day I always felt McCarthy coached not to lose instead of to win. He probably wishes he did that today.
The Falcons have significantly more talent at pass catchers with Kyle Pitts and Drake London than the Packers have.
Tough call. 2 WC teams will come out of the NFC East unless they run the table the other way. The last WC could be Atlanta or from the NFC West. We would need help. But we need to help ourselves.As far as tearing it down. Lets face it we are realistically out of the playoffs already. The only way we have a chance is to run the table and that’s not happening. I see 4 more wins as bring realistically optimistic. Once we are mathematically eliminatec do we give Love some reps? Does he start a game? Play the second half? Does mgmt talk to His Arrogance about it? How do the other Vets feel about Love coming in? Do the coaches REALLY need to see Love play this year? How does the league (or Vegas) look at it if we’re evaluating Love in games that matter to other teams? What a mess.
If you look at the Falcons and Packers and think the reason why the former has been more successful is personnel, that basically tells everyone all they need to know about your understanding of this game.
As far as tearing it down. Lets face it we are realistically out of the playoffs already. The only way we have a chance is to run the table and that’s not happening. I see 4 more wins as bring realistically optimistic.
Once we are mathematically eliminatec do we give Love some reps? Does he start a game? Play the second half? Do the coaches REALLY need to see Love play this year?
I do not question going for it. Our D was gassed. On 3rd down all he had to do was pound it once or twice.
The Packers can afford to lose one, maybe two. All depends on who the losses are to.As far as tearing it down. Lets face it we are realistically out of the playoffs already. The only way we have a chance is to run the table and that’s not happening. I see 4 more wins as bring realistically optimistic. Once we are mathematically eliminatec do we give Love some reps? Does he start a game? Play the second half? Does mgmt talk to His Arrogance about it? How do the other Vets feel about Love coming in? Do the coaches REALLY need to see Love play this year? How does the league (or Vegas) look at it if we’re evaluating Love in games that matter to other teams? What a mess.
I think people are criticizing it so heavily just because it’s Mike McCarthy. I thought it was a great decision as well. 50+ yard kicks at Lambeau aren’t easy.People can debate the calls for Dallas, they didn't work for them. But I don't think going for it was a bad decision at all at that point. I would have too and would have been chastising our own staff if they'd have tried kicking in the same situation.
Masons long FG died well before getting there and there was a PAT on that end that looked like it didn't have much gas either towards the end. Wind didn't seem so strong in the stadium where we were, but one end looked a lot easier than the other. and they would have been kicking in the not so easy end.I think people are criticizing it so heavily just because it’s Mike McCarthy. I thought it was a great decision as well. 50+ yard kicks at Lambeau aren’t easy.
I didn't mention anything about the Falcons having more talent than the Packers overall. There's no doubt that both Pitts and London are more talented than any wide receiver or tight end on the Packers though.
If you look at the Falcons and Packers and think the reason why the former has been more successful is personnel, that basically tells everyone all they need to know about your understanding of this game.
They have found success at times because they have committed to executing the design of Arthur Smith's offense, despite the fact that it is unconventional by modern standards.
Green Bay is dramatically more talented than they are.
I assume you are talking about their last possession. That was a long way to go for it imo. The alternative was not to kick it but to punt it. They gave us a very short field only needing a field goal. Too many people want to go for it, seems like always. The coach needs to stop making those decisions based on how fans and media are going to react.I didn't think it was the wrong call either. That would have been a 52-53 yard field goal INTO a pretty good wind.
Based on draft capital the defense should be, but it's not. On offense they are more talented everywhere but receiver, where there is a GIGANTIC difference in talent. That might indicate to some (including me) just how much the void at the receiver position is hurting the Packers' offense, while for others, it just means the Packers should run a 1960s offense and they'll be just fine.
I strongly disagree.
The gap between a rookie Drake London and Lazard or even Watson when he plays, if there is one, is small. The rest of the receiving corps in Atlanta is probably worse than Green Bay's if that's to be believed. .
Pitts is obviously a phenom and head and shoulders above Green Bay's tight ends. So if, on the basis of him alone, one wanted to give an edge to the Falcons, I wouldn't argue. But the difference is modest, not GIGANTIC.
And it makes absolutely no sense to point to that small disparity in talent as the reason why Atlanta is 12th in scoring offense and Green Bay is 25th when the Falcons use their pass catchers less than anyone in the entire league.
James Jones had a similar take on it being an emotional decision by McCarthy. He said if the Cowboys settled for a field goal, MM didn’t want to give Rodgers the ball, even with a TD required to win the game.I understand the rationale behind going for it, although it looks like the analytics very slightly favored kicking it...
But with that said, maybe I'm projecting or something, but I don't know...it felt to me like that was more of an emotional decision rather than a rational one on McCarthy's part. Playing his old team, a chance to really stick it to them... Going for it looks a bit more bold, aggressive, confident, etc.
Like I said, maybe it was the right call at the end of the day, but I get the sense that McCarthy wasn't weighing up the numbers and probabilities and decided the data he had todl him to go for it...it really felt like more of a "heart" decision rather than a "head" one. But I could just be imagining that...
In whatever case it's one of those situations where you look like a genius if you make it and a fool if you don't. So it is what it is. But I will say that I was perfectly happy to see Dallas lined up to go for it, and obviously that worked out for us.
I see where Mike is coming from. He wanted to win the game without giving the ball to Rodgers.James Jones had a similar take on it being an emotional decision by McCarthy. He said if the Cowboys settled for a field goal, MM didn’t want to give Rodgers the ball, even with a TD required to win the game.
I strongly disagree.
The gap between a rookie Drake London and Lazard or even Watson when he plays, if there is one, is small. The rest of the receiving corps in Atlanta is probably worse than Green Bay's if that's to be believed. .
Pitts is obviously a phenom and head and shoulders above Green Bay's tight ends. So if, on the basis of him alone, one wanted to give an edge to the Falcons, I wouldn't argue. But the difference is modest, not GIGANTIC.
And it makes absolutely no sense to point to that small disparity in talent as the reason why Atlanta is 12th in scoring offense and Green Bay is 25th when the Falcons use their pass catchers less than anyone in the entire league.
I just don't even know what to do with a response that says Drake London is the equivalent of Lazard or Watson; I mean, on contested catches alone London is REALLY, REALLY ahead of Lazard and Watson (also, London hasn't dropped a pass yet this season). Watson could become a much better receiver than London once he learns the nuances of the receiver position but there's a reason Watson was taken in round 2 and London was taken in the top-10.
Yes, the difference in how defenses treat an offense is VERY relevant to a discussion on scoring offense. Believing that an offense that has lacked anything resembling a deep passing game doesn't impact how defenses play against said offense doesn't actually make it a reality.
I just don't even know what to do with a response that says Drake London is the equivalent of Lazard or Watson.