So, IF we lose the NFCCG next Sunday, then what?

[Dblbogey]

If the Packers lose at Atlanta on Sunday I think Murphy should replace Thompson this offseason. Don´t get me wrong TT has been extremely successful during his tenure with the Packers but having won only one Super Bowl while having two Hall of Fame quarterbacks doesn´t cut it. This year´s squad is one shutdown cornerback away from being the most talented team in the league yet the general manager decided it was best to stand pat instead of aggressively addressing the position of need. While his approach results in the team making it to the playoffs consistently it´s the reason the team hasn´t won another title as well.

I believe most saw cornerback as a strength, prior to the season. We had a shutdown corner in Shields, Rollins and Randall coming off very solid rookie seasons, and Micah Hyde. Shields played one game and got hurt, Randall and Rollins have mainly been playing hurt when they've been able to play at all. Do you expect TT to go into the season with 6 quality corners in the era of salary cap and free agency? As for 2 Hall of Fame QB's, TT arrived near the end of Favre's career, and he wasn't all that great his last 3-4 years in GB.

 

[FalconBlood]

Falcons players and fans will get to experience their team in the SB for the 2nd time ever.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Don't forget how the chorus also moaned about paying LT Bakhtiari while letting Josh Sitton go and starting an unproven Taylor.

It's stunning that Thompson supporters are fine with using hindsight to praise some of his moves that worked out yet criticize others pointing out the ones that didn't.

Or how about talking about the moves he nailed recently to help get us to this point?

Solidifying ILB, keeping Perry, signing Schum, cutting Sitton for Taylor, keeping Adams, signing Allison, signing Michael, and signing Cook are things he did since just last season that have helped.

There are also the stengths he has built over time such as the best pass blocking line in football, a good WR group, and a good safety tandem.

Without any one of those moves, the Packers could be at home right now.

TT has done a lot of good to get the team to this point and blaming him already because they might lose doesn't make sense.

There's absolutely no doubt that Thompson has done a great job overall during his tenure with the Packers. I just don't get that he's that reluctant to make a move resulting in drastically improving the team's chances to win a Super Bowl. TT not upgrading the cornerback position during this season being a prime example for what I'm talking about.

I don't get the hate for TT. So if they win the SB, that would be making the playoffs 8 times, including 2 Superbowl wins in 11 years. And, you'd fire him?

There's no way Thompson should be fired if the Packers end up winning the Super Bowl. It might be a different story if the lack of talent at cornerback resukts in the team coming up short of the ultimate goal though.

I believe most saw cornerback as a strength, prior to the season. We had a shutdown corner in Shields, Rollins and Randall coming off very solid rookie seasons, and Micah Hyde. Shields played one game and got hurt, Randall and Rollins have mainly been playing hurt when they've been able to play at all. Do you expect TT to go into the season with 6 quality corners in the era of salary cap and free agency? As for 2 Hall of Fame QB's, TT arrived near the end of Favre's career, and he wasn't all that great his last 3-4 years in GB.

Absolutely agreed that cornerback was a perceived strength entering this year. Thompson should have addressed the position once it became abundantly clear during the season that it was in dire need of an upgrade though.

 

[PikeBadger]

I believe most saw cornerback as a strength, prior to the season. We had a shutdown corner in Shields, Rollins and Randall coming off very solid rookie seasons, and Micah Hyde. Shields played one game and got hurt, Randall and Rollins have mainly been playing hurt when they've been able to play at all. Do you expect TT to go into the season with 6 quality corners in the era of salary cap and free agency? As for 2 Hall of Fame QB's, TT arrived near the end of Favre's career, and he wasn't all that great his last 3-4 years in GB.

Thank you for that 2bogey. I found that disingenuous as well.

Roster creation involves a certain amount of risk when you are also trying to protect yourself from losing guys you want to develop. You can't be stacked at every position group. Lot of times you get away with shorting a position group like we did a few years ago opening the season with 7 OL. Sometimes you don't get away with it like this year with RB. The DB situation was the 500 year flood of injuries all at once.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

You can't be stacked at every position group.

While that is true in the salary cap era there´s no need to be as terrible as the Packers are at cornerback this season. Or inside linebacker, safety and tight end in past years.

 

[Mondio]

I just wonder how many other teams have lost an all pro safety, drafted by their GM, a probowl TE drafted by their GM and an all pro CB signed as an UDFA by their GM all lost to career ending neck injuries in a few year span, all the while keeping the rest of the team competitive year in and year out. there are what, 5 teams that can even sniff the success GB has had in the past decade. How many of them have had to replace those guys they drafted or found and just filled them the next year and moved on like nothing happened. All the while having it not effect the rest of the roster that continues to need attention as well?

Those were huge shoes to fill, and it hurts. But just look at this. We lost Shields, but thankfully his contract won't kill us going forward. Huge shoes we have to fill, but we'll be able to at least try. No contrast that with how losing Byrd to the Saints affected them. What are the noteable differences? I think they're so obvious they don't even need to be pointed out. Football happens, we're prepared for it as best you can be.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I just wonder how many other teams have lost an all pro safety, drafted by their GM, a probowl TE drafted by their GM and an all pro CB signed as an UDFA by their GM all lost to career ending neck injuries in a few year span, all the while keeping the rest of the team competitive year in and year out. there are what, 5 teams that can even sniff the success GB has had in the past decade. How many of them have had to replace those guys they drafted or found and just filled them the next year and moved on like nothing happened. All the while having it not effect the rest of the roster that continues to need attention as well?

Those were huge shoes to fill, and it hurts. But just look at this. We lost Shields, but thankfully his contract won't kill us going forward. Huge shoes we have to fill, but we'll be able to at least try. No contrast that with how losing Byrd to the Saints affected them. What are the noteable differences? I think they're so obvious they don't even need to be pointed out. Football happens, we're prepared for it as best you can be.

Once again there´s absolutely no denying Thompson has done a great job overall during his tenure with the Packers. It taking him way too long to address obvious positions of need because of his philosophy once draft picks didn´t pan out has most likely cost the team a chance to win another Super Bowl since 2010 though.

 

[RRyder]

Falcons players and fans will get to experience their team in the SB for the 2nd time ever.

This really should give some people both pause and percpective but yet well still have posters that deny that they've become a spoiled lot the last 25 years

 

[PikeBadger]

This really should give some people both pause and percpective but yet well still have posters that deny that they've become a spoiled lot the last 25 years

Wow, I've got to admit I don't remember the first time they played in a Super Bowl.

 

[PackAttack12]

I just hope that, no matter the result from here on out, that TT and company will not be blinded by this run. Yes, it has been remarkable and guys have stepped up, but this run is almost ONLY because Rodgers is playing at all-galaxy level.

Even if we win the SB, there are serious flaws with this football team that have to be addressed. We cannot afford to count on Rodgers to play damn near mistake free football every game of every year.

 

[Sky King]

Wow, I've got to admit I don't remember the first time they played in a Super Bowl.

Just in case you're referring to your youth and the Packers first SB appearance, I can remember. And don't anyone dare ask me to pass the prune juice!

 

[BrokenArrow]

It's not Thompson's fault that the cornerback position was hit hard by injuries this season. He should be criticized for standing pat once that happened and the unit struggled mightily though.

You have to develop your depth though. You can't do that if you never allow them to play the game.

 

[PackerDNA]

I don't get the hate for TT. So if they win the SB, that would be making the playoffs 8 times, including 2 Superbowl wins in 11 years. And, you'd fire him?

It hasn't got one damn thing to do with 'hate', and frankly, I'm sick of hearing that mindless ******** tossed around.
It simply has to do with me not believing Ted's way will keep the team going with the outlook ahead of it, and he'll leave more titles on the table with his strictly draft and develop.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Someday, Falcons players and fans will get to experience their team in the SB for the 2nd time ever.

Fixed it for ya

 

[Half Empty]

This really should give some people both pause and percpective but yet well still have posters that deny that they've become a spoiled lot the last 25 years

Or, if we go with 18 years, then the Falcons have been in one (lost it) and the Packers have been in two (split).

 

[PackerDNA]

This really should give some people both pause and percpective but yet well still have posters that deny that they've become a spoiled lot the last 25 years

Yeah, that must be it. They're spoiled whether or not they're enlightened enough to know it. They're just deniers.
Talk to me some more about 'perspective'.

 

[Carl]

Even if they win the SB, I still believe it's time for Thompson to go.
But like El Guapo said, it'll just be wash , rinse, repeat.

If they win the SB, I cannot comprehend how anyone would want a GM gone who has built 2 Super Bowl teams.

 

[Mavster]

Maybe we're spoiled because we have Aaron Rodgers but other than that I don't see it at all.

I just hope that, no matter the result from here on out, that TT and company will not be blinded by this run. Yes, it has been remarkable and guys have stepped up, but this run is almost ONLY because Rodgers is playing at all-galaxy level.

Even if we win the SB, there are serious flaws with this football team that have to be addressed. We cannot afford to count on Rodgers to play damn near mistake free football every game of every year.

This is by far my biggest complaint about our team since the SB run. We rely so heavily on our QB to play at a unrivaled level in order for us to win games, because the rest of the team is not up to par. We looked like garbage when he was having a "slump", and now look at us. We go as he goes

 

[PackAttack12]

If they win the SB, I cannot comprehend how anyone would want a GM gone who has built 2 Super Bowl teams.

More like lucked into Rodgers falling into his lap at #24 in '05.

 

[Mavster]

If they win the SB, I cannot comprehend how anyone would want a GM gone who has built 2 Super Bowl teams.

Why does Thompson get all the credit here? You act as if he built this amazing juggernaut of a team, when in reality our success boils down to ALL TIME great QB play. The defense has given up 30+ points in over 1/4th of the playoff games since AR took over.

 

[Carl]

More like lucked into Rodgers falling into his lap at #24 in '05.

Why does Thompson get all the credit here? You act as if he built this amazing juggernaut of a team, when in reality our success boils down to ALL TIME great QB play. The defense has given up 30+ points in over 1/4th of the playoff games since AR took over.

If you guys still won't give TT credit for building two Super Bowl teams, you clearly have some bias against him and there's no point to even try to reason with you two.

 

[PackAttack12]

If you guys still won't give TT credit for building two Super Bowl teams, you clearly have some bias against him and there's no point to even try to reason with you two.

Really? How many games does this team win without Rodgers? Answer that honestly.

And then tell me what quarterback in the NFL could win with this supporting cast.

 

[PackerDNA]

If they win the SB, I cannot comprehend how anyone would want a GM gone who has built 2 Super Bowl teams.

I don't have time today to explain why I don't believe he- or his way- is best for this team and the issues it faces going forward, but you're one of the posters who I believe couldn't comprehend anything other than slavish devotion to TT.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I don't have time today to explain why I don't believe he- or his way- is best for this team and the issues it faces going forward, but you're one of the posters who I believe couldn't comprehend anything other than slavish devotion to TT.

I don`t think he said anything about Slavish devotion DNA. I think TT does deserve some credit, although like others, I think it`s time to step down.

 

[Mondio]

Really? How many games does this team win without Rodgers? Answer that honestly.

And then tell me what quarterback in the NFL could win with this supporting cast.

I don't know, i don't know how it would look without having Rodgers on the payroll for how many years either. But regardless of how injury or the play has been this year. Clay Matthews might not be what he was, but he's not a scrub. Neither is Peppers. Daniels is good. I'm excited for Clark, but so far he's just a guy. I like Perry, i think he's on that line between very good and outstanding when healthy. Burnett is a good safety, along with Dix would probably start on almost any team in the league. Hyde is a football player. Our offensive line will start for most teams, at least the majority. all of our starting skill positions would easily find work outside of this team. It's not as if this team doesn't have any players.