Should there be a 17 game season

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Why! 16 games is long enough, with all the injury’s with a long season, is making it 17games necessary.From a money stand point the networks and commercial benefit, with the CBA players will want more money making cap space another challenge, do we have 2 bye weeks, with one week before the SB game, I wouldn’t mind dumping that Pro-Bono Bowl, but would this be a more interesting season? I’m only asking..
 

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I'm personally all for it. More football = more better, I hate waiting 2/3rds of the year to watch the coolest sport in the world
 
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I would like there to be 17 regular season games. To make it work, however, I think:
- Training Camp should be 1 week longer (start mid-July) to help get players up to speed (mentally & physically) which will help with evaluations.
- Preseason should be shortened to 2 games.
- An extra bye week added. Each team should have a bye between weeks 5-8, and also weeks 10-13.
- Rather than modify salary cap I'd like rosters expanded to 55.
- Would also like it if Injured Reserve rules were expanded to 3 or 4 players. This allows teams to field healthy guys AND be more competitive towards the end of the season.
- Leave the back-end (playoffs & Super Bowl) alone, modify the front end.
 

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I'm personally all for it. More football = more better, I hate waiting 2/3rds of the year to watch the coolest sport in the world

There's actually only about a 3 month layover from the end of one NHL season to the next;)
 

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18 games and 2 pre-season games, increasing total & active gameday rosters by 5. Win all your games and you can earn the right to rest your players for a few games at the end of the season.
 

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Have you heard the new idea about replacing onside kicks? They stick you on your own 25, and if you can make 15 yards you get to retain. I think they said they're going to try this out atvthe Pro Bowl next year.
 

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Rather than add more games, I'd just stretch the season a bit.

Add one more bye week.
Eliminate Thu and Mon games.

A more radical suggstion would be to switch college to Sun and move NFL to Saturday.
 

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Have you heard the new idea about replacing onside kicks? They stick you on your own 25, and if you can make 15 yards you get to retain. I think they said they're going to try this out atvthe Pro Bowl next year.
Teams would "onside kick" a lot in this scenario. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Especially a potent offensive team against a weaker opponent. They'd never see the football. Unless there's a limit on how many times you could do it.

Weak idea, IMO.
 
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Have you heard the new idea about replacing onside kicks? They stick you on your own 25, and if you can make 15 yards you get to retain. I think they said they're going to try this out atvthe Pro Bowl next year.

Actually there won't be any kickoffs during the Pro Bowl on Sunday with teams having the chance to keep the ball by converting a fourth down and 15 from their own 25.

Teams would "onside kick" a lot in this scenario. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Especially a potent offensive team against a weaker opponent. They'd never see the football. Unless there's a limit on how many times you could do it.

Weak idea, IMO.

I don't like the idea either but wouldn't expect a lot of teams going for it aside the score dictating it.
 

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I don't like the idea either but wouldn't expect a lot of teams going for it aside the score dictating it.
Depending upon matchup, I don't see why a really good offense wouldn't give it a go against weaker defensive teams, in my opinion. It would make for quite an interesting dynamic.
 

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Depending upon matchup, I don't see why a really good offense wouldn't give it a go against weaker defensive teams, in my opinion. It would make for quite an interesting dynamic.
If you fail though, the other team gets the ball on your 25. It's practically gifting them three points, at the very least.
 

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If you fail though, the other team gets the ball on your 25. It's practically gifting them three points, at the very least.
I don't think it'll ever happen for us to find out, but if it were to go into effect, I think some teams would experiment with it throughout games.
 

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I would like there to be 17 regular season games. To make it work, however, I think:
- Training Camp should be 1 week longer (start mid-July) to help get players up to speed (mentally & physically) which will help with evaluations.
- Preseason should be shortened to 2 games.
- An extra bye week added. Each team should have a bye between weeks 5-8, and also weeks 10-13.
- Rather than modify salary cap I'd like rosters expanded to 55.
- Would also like it if Injured Reserve rules were expanded to 3 or 4 players. This allows teams to field healthy guys AND be more competitive towards the end of the season.
- Leave the back-end (playoffs & Super Bowl) alone, modify the front end.

I like this list.
 

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Teams would "onside kick" a lot in this scenario. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Especially a potent offensive team against a weaker opponent. They'd never see the football. Unless there's a limit on how many times you could do it.

Weak idea, IMO.
This idea was "explored" back in this October article: https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/10/14/20905188/nfl-onside-kick-rule-fix-problem
"... teams that wanted the ball back after scoring — if there were less than five minutes left in the game or they trailed by at least 17 points — would face a fourth-and-12 situation from their own 28-yard line."
 

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Much more doable than the current version of the onside kick.

In 2019 teams combined to recover three of 30 (10.0%) onside kick attempts. They successfully converted 21.9% of third and fourth downs with 12 yards to go. That number drops to 15.9% from 15 yards out.

While there's a better chance to convert a play on offense than to recover an onside kick I highly doubt a lot of teams would go for it without the score dictating it.
 

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Thanks for this exposition, but next time please try to be more concise ~ you lost me half way through. ;)

There's significant income to the league for each game so even though your opinion may not be to add any games it WILL happen, just a matter of when. With the new CBA rapidly approaching I believe it WILL happen soon... just a matter of what the league "gives up" to the players union to make it happen & what makes sense for player health.
 

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Thanks for this exposition, but next time please try to be more concise ~ you lost me half way through. ;)

There's significant income to the league for each game so even though your opinion may not be to add any games it WILL happen, just a matter of when. With the new CBA rapidly approaching I believe it WILL happen soon... just a matter of what the league "gives up" to the players union to make it happen & what makes sense for player health.
yup.
 

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Have you heard the new idea about replacing onside kicks? They stick you on your own 25, and if you can make 15 yards you get to retain. I think they said they're going to try this out atvthe Pro Bowl next year.

Better idea: Put it back the way it was.
 

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Don't think it would make a difference since those teams that clinch the playoff spot would have to play another useless game risking more injuries.
 
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With the new CBA rapidly approaching I believe it WILL happen soon... just a matter of what the league "gives up" to the players union to make it happen & what makes sense for player health.

There's no way to add regular season games and to make sense for players health.

Better idea: Put it back the way it was.

That won't happen because of the emphasis on making the game safer.
 

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There's no way to add regular season games and to make sense for players health.
Really? A 2nd bye week later in the season would have no value to players and allow them time to recover? IMHO this would also help the rookies recover from "the wall" that many hit at game 12 or 13. If this makes no sense for players health ask Emmanuel Sanders the value of a bye week (which he missed by getting traded).
 

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