Should the Packers give Josh Gordon a second chance?

[PackerFanLV]

As someone else mentioned, he probably knew he would get popped and so went into drug rehab instead. Be interesting to see if that works. Sure, I would sign him for peanuts with incentives but for more than just a year.

Yea something fishy is going on.

 

[Mondio]

Maybe he is getting smarter

 

[7thFloorRA]

I really don't want to know what New England is going to look like with him in the mix. If this were him posturing a way to get out of Cleveland because its a black hole of a football team....pretty shrewd and impressive. I think they had control of him for a few years with his contract basically being paused during the 3 years of suspensions.

 

[Half Empty]

For smoking weed. That alone is a great injustice...

Most employers have rules. Break 'em at your own risk.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

While I am holding out hopes for our current WR's to be as good as some have labeled them to be, Josh Gordon wouldn't be on my top ten list of ways to try and fix it, if it needs fixing at all. Given his off field issues, history of them with the league, hasn't played in a game since December 2014 and he just voluntarily entered himself into a rehab program to "gain full control of my life". Talented guy 2 years ago, but just too much baggage. Bringing in a hot mess like that, into a complicated offense at some point during this season, I will pass.

The Packers have 7 WR's on the current 53 and Allison on the PS, appears to me they have plenty of depth and the Packers must feel this group is all they need. I guess we will find out if that is true over the course of this season. If it turns out there is a need to upgrade at WR for 2016, there are better options. If its for 2017, I hope TT keeps an open mind with the FA market, but I don't expect that either.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/

 

[RRyder]

Most employers have rules. Break 'em at your own risk.

Right. I got no problem with people that smoke but damn you know the rules. Don't act shocked. If I get hurt at work the first thing they're doing is giving me a p*** test. I know it so I don't smoke. Others know it, still smoke and then complain when it comes back to bite them in the ***

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Absolutely no way the Packers should even think about signing Gordon. He has been suspended several times and still hasn't changed to finally be able to return to the field. No, thanks.

 

[NelsonsLongCatch]

Gordon is a super athlete who could have been a top-10 receiver if he kept his nose clean. He's still young and would only garner a "prove it" type contract. With that being said, the Packers don't make moves like this. I am wondering, however, if a team could sign him to a minimal two-year contract and put him on IR for the remainder of this year with the goal of having him play next year.

 

[C-Lee]

Yes.

 

[Vrill]

Hell of a player. Hell of a lot of off field issues. It depends on if we (or another team) finds the reward greater then the risk. Hes probably the best deep threat in the NFL. Hes fast as greased lightning too. But again, the off field issues are a big deal. I'd sign him to the minimum for a year with a waive/cut clause of some kind that we can cut him anytime and not owe him the rest of the contract or something. Some sort of "prove it" deal.

I wish the NFL would just give players a pass who smoke weed.

 

[PackerFanLV]

Micheal Irvin on blow til this day but somehow he keeps getting jobs. Somebody is going to give the young Gordon a chance.

 

[Half Empty]

Talent trumps, well, darned near anything.

 

[sdh09e44]

While I am holding out hopes for our current WR's to be as good as some have labeled them to be, Josh Gordon wouldn't be on my top ten list of ways to try and fix it, if it needs fixing at all. Given his off field issues, history of them with the league, hasn't played in a game since December 2014 and he just voluntarily entered himself into a rehab program to "gain full control of my life". Talented guy 2 years ago, but just too much baggage. Bringing in a hot mess like that, into a complicated offense at some point during this season, I will pass.

The Packers have 7 WR's on the current 53 and Allison on the PS, appears to me they have plenty of depth and the Packers must feel this group is all they need. I guess we will find out if that is true over the course of this season. If it turns out there is a need to upgrade at WR for 2016, there are better options. If its for 2017, I hope TT keeps an open mind with the FA market, but I don't expect that either.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/

Yea. I can see where you're coming from. Goes back to the first reply on this thread though. If he is sincere in turning his life around, then why not. I am definitely not suggesting they bring him in if it were a clear risk and if he is actually an idiot.

I'm also half speaking about next season too. He will be up for grabs in march if he stays in rehab through the season. Do not think Adams is turning into the next Donald Driver or Janis is turning into the next Jordy so, the wr spot needs to be re stocked ASAP

 

[Carl]

Considering Gordon is still a Brown and may never even get back to football, this thread is very premature. As of right now, it's not even possible for the Packers to give him a chance.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Yup. I'm also all for another solution. Maybe sign Desean Jackson this offseason or trade for him if the redskins become a sinking ship. Or Draft one in the first round in 2017. All I know is this team would be deadly if they could add another lethal deep threat. Have to one up the Vikings somehow, before they do it to us again.

The way to one up the Vikings is to play better defense.

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

I just hope the young man gets his life in order, then we can worry about his football career. More important things going on with him than football right now. I have no real objection to anyone smoking the hippie lettuce unless it impacts your life. But way too many people let it, or something worse, impact them and let themselves be led down a road of even more detrimental substances.

I see way too many "homeless" that are just unable to cut off their addictions, many of which started with just getting high. It is only insignificant if it is insignificant. If you have to smoke a joint in the morning to get going, one or two at lunch to keep going and then hit the blunt after work to wind down, there is a problem. Some have that problem. Not all, maybe not even many, but some need it to function. That is an issue for them.

And yeah, I was a teen in the 70's and no angel. But I didn't and don't let anything determine how my day goes or how I will feel.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I am wondering, however, if a team could sign him to a minimal two-year contract and put him on IR for the remainder of this year with the goal of having him play next year.

First of all Gordon is still under contract with the Browns, therefore the Packers can't sign him to a contract.

In addition there's no need as well as rules preventing a team from bringing in a player to put him on injured reserve.

Considering Gordon is still a Brown and may never even get back to football, this thread is very premature. As of right now, it's not even possible for the Packers to give him a chance.

Well, Thompson could trade for him.

The way to one up the Vikings is to play better defense.

As well as better offense.

 

[Carl]

First of all Gordon is still under contract with the Browns, therefore the Packers can't sign him to a contract.

In addition there's no need as well as rules preventing a team from bringing in a player to put him on injured reserve.



Well, Thompson could trade for him.



As well as better offense.

Trading for a guy who might not even play football again isn't a good idea.

 

[Poppa San]

Trading for a guy who might not even play football again isn't a good idea.

Conditional 2018 7th round pick. He is suspended, not resigned, or otherwise not on the 53 man roster next year say for 6 weeks by week 8, they get nothing.
That said it ain't gonna happen. Colt Leyerle not withstanding, TT doesn't sign troubled players very often. Guion had a track record with the team.

 

[Ace]

I'll preface this by saying I believe there's a less than 1% chance of this happening but for anyone to say we shouldn't sign him is ridiculous.

As a couple have pointed out he's 25, absolutely loaded with talent and the risk/reward would be wayyyy to good not to do it. If it were me, I'd be running to the phone to sign this guy once he becomes a free agent and I'm a Ted draft and develop guy not a "Ted should sign this guy and this guy" kind of guy. For what it will cost to bring him in this one is a no brainer IMO.

People make mistakes, and it's very possible he's made too many for some to overlook but me, personally, I don't care. He's not beating his wife/GF, he's not shooting at anyone, he's not doing hard drugs (that we know of), he's smokin some weed big deal and while yes it's illegal in most places he's not a hardened criminal. That, I'm willing to over look, the other stuff not so much. The question is, can he reel it in because one more failed or missed test and he's done for good. I hope the guy does finish rehab and get cleaned up because he's too talented not to be in the NFL.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I'll preface this by saying I believe there's a less than 1% chance of this happening but for anyone to say we shouldn't sign him is ridiculous.

As a couple have pointed out he's 25, absolutely loaded with talent and the risk/reward would be wayyyy to good not to do it. If it were me, I'd be running to the phone to sign this guy once he becomes a free agent and I'm a Ted draft and develop guy not a "Ted should sign this guy and this guy" kind of guy. For what it will cost to bring him in this one is a no brainer IMO.

People make mistakes, and it's very possible he's made too many for some to overlook but me, personally, I don't care. He's not beating his wife/GF, he's not shooting at anyone, he's not doing hard drugs (that we know of), he's smokin some weed big deal and while yes it's illegal in most places he's not a hardened criminal. That, I'm willing to over look, the other stuff not so much. The question is, can he reel it in because one more failed or missed test and he's done for good. I hope the guy does finish rehab and get cleaned up because he's too talented not to be in the NFL.

There's absolutely no reason for the Packers to sign him as he has proven repeatedly that he can't stay away from weed and therefore hasn't been available to play for nearly two years.

 

[Ace]

There's absolutely no reason for the Packers to sign him as he has proven repeatedly that he can't stay away from weed and therefore hasn't been available to play for nearly two years.

There's no reason?? That I completely disagree with. Again, he's made mistakes and I can't/won't deny that. You sign him because he's still very young and can redeem himself for the mistakes he's made. If you can't get over the weed then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that because the contract you're going to sign him to will mitigate that risk.

He put up a 1,600 and 9TD season with the Cleveland Browns, that's why you take a chance on him.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

There's no reason?? That I completely disagree with. Again, he's made mistakes and I can't/won't deny that. You sign him because he's still very young and can redeem himself for the mistakes he's made. If you can't get over the weed then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that because the contract you're going to sign him to will mitigate that risk.

The league most likely will suspended him for the rest of his career if he fails another drug test. Although he knew about it he had to check himself into a rehab clinic because he can't stay away from it.

There's no denying he's a hugely talented receiver but because of his inability to get on the field there's no reason to sign him.

 

[Ace]

The league most likely will suspended him for the rest of his career if he fails another drug test. Although he knew about it he had to check himself into a rehab clinic because he can't stay away from it.

There's no denying he's a hugely talented receiver but because of his inability to get on the field there's no reason to sign him.

He has said this was for Alcohol correct? Unless something new has come out, I don't believe this has anything to do with weed. Now, maybe I'm being completely naïve but I'm just saying I hadn't heard any different. There's also a Rosenhaus aspect to this. Don't think for one second he doesn't want his client the hell out of Cleveland, just saying that the timing of this is a little bit weird.

We'll agree to disagree because I'm all in for signing him if he were to ever become a free agent.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

He has said this was for Alcohol correct? Unless something new has come out, I don't believe this has anything to do with weed. Now, maybe I'm being completely naïve but I'm just saying I hadn't heard any different. There's also a Rosenhaus aspect to this. Don't think for one second he doesn't want his client the hell out of Cleveland, just saying that the timing of this is a little bit weird.

With Gordon being in the league's substance abuse protocol the league is allowed to suspend him for drinking alcohol as well. Doesn't make it any better.