Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Phil Young]

Let him go. I don't want any player holding a grudge. yes he's very very good Hall of Fame good BUT no-one is irreplaceable. Look at what happened when #12 took over from #4. That didn't turn out too bad did it? & #12 needs to remember that. Just my opinion but if he wants to be a diva let him go

 

[tynimiller]

Character ..Do right thing

What did they do?? Steal his dog?

Wouldnt do right thing mean honor a contract that you had signed knowing of all these issues??

or were there promises they didnt keep?

He did a solid job of attempting to craft the high road is only on his side of the two way street.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Character ..Do right thing

What did they do?? Steal his dog?

Wouldnt do right thing mean honor a contract that you had signed knowing of all these issues??

or were there promises they didnt keep?

He signed the extension about 7 months after Gute took over so maybe he didn't know at the time how things would change? Not excusing anything, just looking at possible reasons. Also, teams dump players all the time without finalizing contracts to which many will reply that players know that going in. Well, Rodgers contract didn't include any verbiage about whining in public so, to this point, he hasn't actually done anything to violate his contract.

 

[longtimefan]

He signed the extension about 7 months after Gute took over so maybe he didn't know at the time how things would change? Not excusing anything, just looking at possible reasons. Also, teams dump players all the time without finalizing contracts to which many will reply that players know that going in. Well, Rodgers contract didn't include any verbiage about whining in public so, to this point, he hasn't actually done anything to violate his contract.

Packers havent dumped him so that excuse cant be used

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Packers havent dumped him so that excuse cant be used

I didn't say it should. I was simply pointing out that contracts are generally viewed by fans, in football, as only being binding in one direction.

 

[gopkrs]

I would like to know what ARod wants. I wonder if Gute even knows what Rodgers wants.

 

[bigbubbatd]

I didn't say it should. I was simply pointing out that contracts are generally viewed by fans, in football, as only being binding in one direction.

That is because they are. The player signs a contract knowing that he could be cut. That is why players try to get all the gauranteed money they can. The bigger issue is how contracts are reported to be signed. The players and agents should know that the really contract is the gauranteed money. Rodgers signed a contract knowing the Packers had an out after this year. Other guys sign contracts with a lot of money on the back end knowing they could get cut. They are betting in themselves.

A team can't just decide not to pay a player what they agreed to pay him. That would be a true break of contract.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

(since sports teams are basically the best tax evasion tool ever)

Wow, shooting for the moon today! Would love to hear your explanation here. Of course it will be about the way owners dodge taxes I assume?

I didn't say it should. I was simply pointing out that contracts are generally viewed by fans, in football, as only being binding in one direction.

Explain how they are only one sided please. I don't need a moral explanation of what you might interpret as a handshake agreement or a wink and a nod, but that of an actual NFL agreement only being binding in one direction.

 

[PackerDNA]

I loved Captain Kangaroo. Where's Mr. Green Jeans and Mr. Moose??

They're all dead.

 

[PackerDNA]

I don't know if anybody else is quoted this as I didn't go far enough back in the post, but there's one thing being ignored in the media that says everything for me. it's all been doom and gloom from Demovsky, ESPN and the rest.
But one quote from Rodgers really stuck out for me."At this point everything is on the table".
That says to me everything includes this gets worked out and Rodgers is the Packers quarterback for several more years.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Wow, shooting for the moon today! Would love to hear your explanation here. Of course it will be about the way owners dodge taxes I assume?




Explain how they are only one sided please. I don't need a moral explanation of what you might interpret as a handshake agreement or a wink and a nod, but that of an actual NFL agreement only being binding in one direction.

Tax evasion, they can hide profits in teams and use them as losses to offset profits in other assets they own (look it up) as well as the obvious benefits of tax payer funded stadiums that they reap then benefits of.

Excuse me if I misinterpreted what some believe. I took some comments as players being forced to fulfill the entirety of the contract while teams can cancel said contract at any time.

 

[gopkrs]

Excuse me if I misinterpreted what some believe. I took some comments as players being forced to fulfill the entirety of the contract while teams can cancel said contract at any time.

Teams can cut a player. Has to be that way. But if they cut a player that had a signing bonus; then that money is given up by the team.

 

[Premontre1969]

I would like to know what ARod wants. I wonder if Gute even knows what Rodgers wants.

I wonder if Rodgers himself even knows what he wants. Consider what happened to Favre. He openly pondered retirement for a couple of years before his end in GB. After so many gruelling seasons they’re emotionally spent.
So, maybe he’s identified a legitimate “culture” issue with the headshed. Maybe the FO improves their communication by this and it turns out to be a positive for the team. We can only hope.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Tax evasion, they can hide profits in teams and use them as losses to offset profits in other assets they own (look it up) as well as the obvious benefits of tax payer funded stadiums that they reap then benefits of.

Look up "tax evasion" as well as how many NFL franchises have been charged of or found guilty of it and get back to me. Wait, while I have you looking things up, look up "NFL player charged with Tax evasion".

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I wonder if Rodgers himself even knows what he wants. Consider what happened to Favre. He openly pondered retirement for a couple of years before his end in GB. After so many gruelling seasons they’re emotionally spent.
So, maybe he’s identified a legitimate “culture” issue with the headshed. Maybe the FO improves their communication by this and it turns out to be a positive for the team. We can only hope.

Except for Murphy, Favre and Rodgers dealt with different front offices. If I recall correctly, Murphy wasn't really involved with the Favre decision either. Also they aren't the first NFL players to go through something like this. I understand people wanting to connect the Favre and Rodgers dots, but I don't think FO personnel is the common denominator here. Being famous Packer QB's that rocked the boat is.

 

[thequick12]

And if Rodgers doesn't report, and the Packers don't trade him, he doesn't get paid and doesn't work. So what's his leverage again?

Oh wait, they might have to start Jordan Love. Is that a good thing for Rodgers or bad? Because as long as he doesn't report, the Packer own his rights for two more years. HE can retire, but I don't think the Packers are going the Favre route with Rodgers.

In the end they'll trade him to the team he wants and he'll recoup the money lost from sitting out this season. All that happens is his trade value may be diminished a bit. But yes Rodgers has all the leverage because he can always retire. And they aren't gonna ask him to pay back his signing bonus if he does.

All of this is dumb though because he's gonna be playing for the Packers this season and almost certainly next season as well.

I think it's far more likely the Packers trade for julio jones or obj than it is Rodgers isn't the Packers starter in 2021

Look up "tax evasion" as well as how many NFL franchises have been charged of or found guilty of it and get back to me. Wait, while I have you looking things up, look up "NFL player charged with Tax evasion".

I'm not weighing in one way or another because I have no idea but just because no billion air owner has ever been charged with it doesn't mean it isn't common place whatever it is from this subject to things darker

Its pretty obvious that players are far more likely to be charged with tax evasion because they are largely peasants relative to the owners

 

[Pkrjones]

I don't know if anybody else is quoted this as I didn't go far enough back in the post, but there's one thing being ignored in the media that says everything for me. it's all been doom and gloom from Demovsky, ESPN and the rest.
But one quote from Rodgers really stuck out for me."At this point everything is on the table".
That says to me everything includes this gets worked out and Rodgers is the Packers quarterback for several more years.

IMHO not possible to have AR on the '22 roster. He counts almost 40Mil on the cap, GB is 33Mil over the projected cap (per overthecap) AND that doesn't include Davante Adams' new contract. Can't be on a fixed income and eat lobster every night for too long.

 

[Premontre1969]

Except for Murphy, Favre and Rodgers dealt with different front offices. If I recall correctly, Murphy wasn't really involved with the Favre decision either. Also they aren't the first NFL players to go through something like this. I understand people wanting to connect the Favre and Rodgers dots, but I don't think FO personnel is the common denominator here. Being famous Packer QB's that rocked the boat is.

I didn’t mean to infer any connection between old management vs new. Just think he himself doesn’t know what he wants and was looking for some issue as a way to vent and “rock the boat”.

 

[swhitset]

In the end they'll trade him to the team he wants and he'll recoup the money lost from sitting out this season. All that haple


I'm not weighing in one way or another because I have no idea but just because no billion air owner has ever been charged with it doesn't mean it isn't common place whatever it is from this subject to things darker

Its pretty obvious that players are far more likely to be charged with tax evasion because they are largely peasants relative to the owners

PEASANTS rotflmao

 

[ARPackFan]

Let him go. I don't want any player holding a grudge. yes he's very very good Hall of Fame good BUT no-one is irreplaceable. Look at what happened when #12 took over from #4. That didn't turn out too bad did it? & #12 needs to remember that. Just my opinion but if he wants to be a diva let him go

Be careful what you wish for. It only took about 23 years to replace Starr. With the exception of Lynn ****ey there was not much talent at that position until Favre was traded for. Look around the league and find another team that had a HOF QB followed by a second HOF candidate. The only one I am aware is San Francisco with Montana & Young (18 years combined, 5 SB Wins). The Packers having two for 29 years is unlikely to be duplicated. I can't handle a second dark ages.

Not a complete list as there are a handful of single game starters:

Bart Starr, Scott Hunter, Jerry Tagge , Jim Del Gaizo, John Hadl, Lynn ****ey, / Carlos Brown, David Whitehurst, Randy Wright, Jim Zorn, Don Majkowski, Anthony Dilweg, Mike Tomczak, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm not weighing in one way or another because I have no idea but just because no billion air owner has ever been charged with it doesn't mean it isn't common place whatever it is from this subject to things darker

Its pretty obvious that players are far more likely to be charged with tax evasion because they are largely peasants relative to the owners

I can't tell if you are joking or being serious?

 

[PackerDNA]

IMHO not possible to have AR on the '22 roster. He counts almost 40Mil on the cap, GB is 33Mil over the projected cap (per overthecap) AND that doesn't include Davante Adams' new contract. Can't be on a fixed income and eat lobster every night for too long.

As Andrew Brandt has said, the cap can always be worked out.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The top eight players under contract for next season have a combined 2022 salary-cap charge of $161.14 million. If the salary cap jumps from $182.5 million this season to, say, $200 million next season, it still would mean the Packers have more than 80% of their cap tied up in those eight players. So about $38.86M for the other 45+ players. Or ~$850K Ave. Per player. Going to be tough to field a competitive team that cap strapped.

At some point you have to stop pushing money out, stop signing new contracts or cut guys. I think we will see a combination of all 3 happening next year at a level we haven't seen before, especially if Rodgers is given a bigger contract.

 

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[Sanguine camper]

Rodgers had the opportunity to say he wanted a trade or retire last night. Nothing like that at all. I think he wants to come back but would like some input into what he thinks are players that do or don't fit well into the offense based upon their ability to dependably run routes. I also think his mentioning of communication is also about what he feels is that he will be pushed out the door even if he is playing well. He has made it clearly known he would like to finish his career in GB and would like to play until he is at least 40. Those desires apparently don't fit into the Packers plans. hence the impa