Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

we have a lot of very young and very talented players all over the roster. definitely no 'blow 'er up' scenarios anywhere near us.

That's true, but aren't we going to get hit hard by the salary cap after this year or over the next few years? Either way, I am not sure if Love is going to be a super bowl QB, and even if he is, it probably isn't going to be this year or over the next 2-3 seasons since he would be just starting out(and we have a great opportunity this year and maybe the following couple of seasons if we can keep the roster intact with good QB play).

Would Jimmy G really be an adequate replacement for Rodgers? I know that SF went to a super bowl a couple of years ago and beat us in the NFCCG.

 

[Pkrjones]

PFT (I know, huge rumor site) is saying AR was pisssed that Gute didn't accept SF's trade offer this morning. AR saying if not SF then will be OK with LVRaiders or Denver, only (to be closer to fiance/wife in CA). Raiders have #17, Denver #9 tonight, plus (I would hope) at least 1st's in '22 & '23. Much rather it be Denver than LV if really down to those 2.

Disagree with 502 ~ he's worth way too much in draft-pick-compensation to let him just retire.

Certainly wouldn't waste a #1 on another young QB (Jones, Lance, Trask, ??). Would see if Alex Smith would come out of retirement as an insurance policy, though.

 

[longtimefan]

That's true, but aren't we going to get hit hard by the salary cap after this year or over the next few years? Either way, I am not sure if Love is going to be a super bowl QB, and even if he is, it probably isn't going to be this year or over the next 2-3 seasons since he would be just starting out(and we have a great opportunity this year and maybe the following couple of seasons if we can keep the roster intact with good QB play).

Would Jimmy G really be an adequate replacement for Rodgers? I know that SF went to a super bowl a couple of years ago and beat us in the NFCCG.

How many passes did jimmy complete?

 

[Zartan]

PFT (I know, huge rumor site) is saying AR was pisssed that Gute didn't accept SF's trade offer this morning. Now saying if not SF then will be OK with LVRaiders or Denver, only. Raiders have #17, Denver #9 tonight, plus (I would hope) at least 1st's in '22 & '23. Much rather it be Denver than LV if really down to those 2.

Disagree with 502 ~ he's worth way too much in draft-pick-compensation to let him just retire.

Certainly wouldn't waste a #1 on another young QB (Jones, Lance, Trask, ??). Would see if Alex Smith would come out of retirement as an insurance policy, though.

What could we get from Denver? Their #9 and their next year 1st round pick?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

How many passes did jimmy complete?

The idea would be for Jimmy to start some games while Love continued to learn. Love was a raw QB coming out and I'm sure Gute wants him to look as good as possible when he starts.

 

[Spanky]

PFT (I know, huge rumor site) is saying AR was pisssed that Gute didn't accept SF's trade offer this morning. AR saying if not SF then will be OK with LVRaiders or Denver, only (to be closer to fiance/wife in CA). Raiders have #17, Denver #9 tonight, plus (I would hope) at least 1st's in '22 & '23. Much rather it be Denver than LV if really down to those 2.

Disagree with 502 ~ he's worth way too much in draft-pick-compensation to let him just retire.

Certainly wouldn't waste a #1 on another young QB (Jones, Lance, Trask, ??). Would see if Alex Smith would come out of retirement as an insurance policy, though.

He won't retire. He'll play another season being butt hurt. Just like he did in 2020. And probably win another MVP.

 

[Ceodore]

What if love was drafted because aaron has been sowing these seeds for multiple years?

 

[longtimefan]

Was he lying?

After the season I had,” Rodgers told McAfee in January, “and potentially winning MVP, and we obviously made another good run, I don’t think there’s any reason why I wouldn’t be back. But, look, there’s not many absolutes.”

 

[Zartan]

The idea would be for Jimmy to start some games while Love continued to learn. Love was a raw QB coming out and I'm sure Gute wants him to look as good as possible when he starts.

I am not 100% sure that Love is the guy though.

 

[tynimiller]

What could we get from Denver? Their #9 and their next year 1st round pick?

Less than we could a few hours ago...

 

[Sunshinepacker]

What if love was drafted because aaron has been sowing these seeds for multiple years?

Also, the illuminati controls the snack food industry!!! Just as relevant, and just as sourced.

 

[tynimiller]

I am not 100% sure that Love is the guy though.

No one can be. Even Gute couldn't straight faced or without lying say he is 100% certain.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I am not 100% sure that Love is the guy though.

You might not be but if Gute admits that, then he admits he drove Rodgers outta Green Bay for no real reason and he should absolutely be fired for that. I don't see Gute giving up on Love.

 

[AmishMafia]

So weird to see all the Rodgers hate but not much criticism of Gute for helping drive Rodgers away. Weird. Oh well, I'm sure the Packers will easily replace the best QB in the NFL easily, right? Cause remember, it's better to be in the playoffs every year and I'm sure Jordan Love will certainly get this yeah to the playoffs in 2022 (I'm assuming the Packers don't trade Rodgers this season).

Oh, and it certainly throws some interesting thoughts into the Adams contact extension discussion too.

Can't see how you can come to the conclusion Gute is driving Rodgers away. He has paid the man, offered extensions, restructures, and publically committed to him.

Maybe this is true but can we blame him? It’s funny reading some of these responses. Remember when the Packers went 13-3 and were on the verge of getting to another super bowl and then Gute sent Him a proverbial smack in the face by drafting his heir apparent? I don’t blame him one bit if this story is true. Hopefully it’s his way of forcing management to spend high draft capital on more offensive weapons because I’m not ready to see life without Rodgers. Fingers crossed that this is a fabricated story.

A smack in the face? Rodgers was drafted while we had a HOF QB already on the roster. If anyone should understand it should be Rodgers.

A Jets fan buddy of mine just texted and said he is praying his front office is asking Gute what guys he wants them to pick in the 1st round with their two picks....in preparing for a trade offer after June 1st.

I was like "WTF" can you do that? Genius if so. Throw in a few more future firsts and done.

Can't believe the Jets would do this. They have too many holes ( the Packers are more talented) and with AR would only improve to a 500 level.

Time is a flat circle. This could have been avoided if they dident get Love.

That was a dumb draft pick.

Its not ARs role to draft players. He needs to be a teammate and not be so selfish.

We as fans tend to look entirely at a players performance and put them on a pedestal for it and overlook character issues. I can't side with the guy if these stories are true. He didn't get along with MM. He didn't get along with MLF. He doesn't get along with his brother. He is estranged with his mother and father. Now he doesn't like Gute.

Maybe this isn't Gutes fault. Maybe he is just being a selfish *****.

Hey, he is an amazing player - the best I have ever watched - and I would have loved him to continue as our QB for a few more seasons. But I have to face the possibility that his attitude may prevent that. It's not Gutes fault. It's Rodgers responsibility for his attitude and behaviors.

 

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

I don't understand this. Isn't Love the guy of the future? It's why I like the SF option. You can get good, young players on offense to make the QBs job easier while also getting a competent QB Jimmy G) to let Love play behind while he learns.

Also, if we do have to trade Rodgers, wouldn't it be best to trade him to the AFC so we wouldn't have to deal with him in the playoffs, or as far as competing with for a spot in the standings, unless his team made the Super bowl?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Also, if we do have to trade Rodgers, wouldn't it be best to trade him to the AFC so we wouldn't have to deal with him in the playoffs, or as far as competing with for a spot in the standings, unless his team made the Super bowl?

I've never cared where a guy is traded. I'm more interested in the Packers getting better. If an NFC team offers the best package, I'm not happy if the team decided to improve LESS just to get him in another conference.

 

[Ceodore]

Also, the illuminati controls the snack food industry!!! Just as relevant, and just as sourced.

Is it so far fetched? Rodgers basically gets MM fired then has some questionable chemistry with MLF the very next year. AR forcing his way out was the next logical move, maybe GB saw that coming?

 

[OldSchool101]

If you draft a young QB then you're admitting that Love, one if the primary reasons you're being forced to trade Rodgers, was a mistake. Nobody is doing that cause if he does, any intelligent organization would fire him instantly.

not necessarily. Green Bay was grooming Love, it was 100% a known fact from the beginning he would need a few years.

When you have a shakeup from the top anything goes. If someone offers us a #3 you don't pass at QB because you've got one developing, you put your foot on the gas and roll with the punches. If you're worried about getting fired with big time decisions.. IMO you were not my "guy" for the job to begin with (as far as a senior manager etc..). You got to be fearless and not go with the crowd

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Can't see how you can come to the conclusion Gute is driving Rodgers away. He has paid the man, offered extensions, restructures, and publically committed to him.


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When your employer hires your replacement do you really feel good about continuing to work for them? Knowing they're moving on and just trusting you to support them rather than trying to make your job better?

Not sure why you think words talk louder than actions. The contact extension thing is irrelevant; Rodgers wants out, he's getting that extension no matter what, he just wants it from a different team.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

not necessarily. Green Bay was grooming Love, it was known that from the beginning he would need a few years. When you have a shakeup from the top anything goes. If someone offers us a #3 you don't pass at QB because you've got one developing, you put your foot on the gas and roll with the punches. If you're worried about getting fired with big time decisions.. IMO you were not my "guy" for the job to begin with (as far as a senior manager etc..). You got to be fearless and not go with the crowd

EVERYONE in the NFL is worried about getting fired. Job security is a very real, very proven cognitive process.

 

[Mavster]

Is it so far fetched? Rodgers basically gets MM fired then has some questionable chemistry with MLF the very next year. AR forcing his way out was the next logical move, maybe GB saw that coming?

Proof Rodgers got MM fired? Or that he had questionable chemistry with MLF?

 

[AGreen2AJones]

A few notes here:

1) End of an era for sure. No repairing this after this report. Feels exactly like Brett.
2) Lots of you are in denial
3) Lots of you trashed Brett for the same stuff are supporting Aaron
4) It is what it is. It's a business.
5) 1 championship in 13 years, and so many times not coming through. IF there is a chance to repair this you Either you go all out because you think you can win at least 1 to 3 over the next three years or you make the trade for most as possible you can. Whether it's Jordan Love or someone you draft now. If you drag this on, it doesn't matter it is Aaron, the value is going to go way down because he won't play in GB.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

So let Rodgers do the draft. Send Love out. Send one of the Smith's out. And fire all the stupid ***** in charge ....

The Love trade was idiotic. Spending all that cap on the two Smith's was idiotic . And spending all those picks on Gary was idiotic.

We should have an all pro oline by now, and another target for #12.

The decision makers should be fired right now before the draft. All of them.

 

[Dantés]

No one has the full story on this except for the people directly involved.

Much of what we "know" (or think we know) is purposefully leaked out by one side or the other to influence perception or outcomes.

Some fans are going to be inclined to "side" with the team and interpret everything through the prism of Rodgers being an egotistical maniac.

Some fans are going to be inclined to "side" with Rodgers and interpret everything through the prism of the team being a bunch of backwards, bumbling idiots.

The truth is probably in the middle. If we knew the whole story, most of us would probably agree that both sides could have handled things better.

If Rodgers is intent on getting out, I hope that they get a huge haul for him and build up the roster.

If he's not, I hope they improve the team via the draft and make another run.

He will turn 38 years old this season. I've said before that if they can get a massive return on him before he hits a decline, it would be a smart way to set themselves up for the next era. I didn't expect it would be this offseason, and it very likely still won't be. But I think there's a lot of merit to the concept.

 

[longtimefan]

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So let Rodgers do the draft. Send Love out. Send one of the Smith's out. And fire all the stupid ***** in charge ....

The Love trade was idiotic. Spending all that cap on the two Smith's was idiotic . And spending all those picks on Gary was idiotic.

We should have an all pro oline by now, and another target for #12.

The decision makers should be fired right now before the draft. All of them.

all those picks on Gary?

and we had the best online last year.. we needed more depth on online, that’s why more weapons makes no sense

ask KC how that worked out