Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[jhawk008]

Improving the team will get you fired?

You sure have an odd way of thinking.

Just read article that Rodgers will only come back if Gute is fired.

That is way over the line. ******** with a man's livelihood because your feelings are hurt? This is way over the line. If true, he needs to be gone. This is so childish and stupid.

Come on now.. don't be dense, you know that I'm referring to not only wasting last years #1 pick, but then going after another young QB when you have an MVP HOF at center. It's compounding mistakes on top of mistakes.

I don't believe every single report, if YOU did then why aren't you up in arms about the Packers saying told Rodgers they would trade Rodgers and pack your bags only to not do so? Very counter to their message basically all offseason so are they liars?

 

[sjb12681]

Cr

Ahh so you're a FO sheep that apparently only holds players feet to the fire.. that's really all you had to say to me, I get your type

Crazy, you didn't answer a simple question. That's more telling of you than me.

I root for the packers. Who ever is playing for the packers. Who will you root for once Aaron is gone?

Will you still be a Packers fan? Simple yes or no question.

 

[AKCheese]

Who was the other young QB? (Obviously we need more)

 

[PackAttack12]

13-18-1 over two seasons no?

Why do people hold 2017 against Rodgers? 4-1 prior to injury.

 

[Dantés]

Why do people hold 2017 against Rodgers? 4-1 prior to injury.

Yeah that's fair. The point is that he wasn't playing particularly well. Basically from from 2015 to 2019, he was an above average QB, but not elite. He was certainly good enough that you'd want him on your team, but probably not good enough to return value on a huge cap number. He came out to about a 97.0 Passer Rating over that span, which was what Philip Rivers produced for the Colts last year.

Now I totally blame McCarthy's offense and Rodgers' bad habits within that offense-- not his actual ability-- for those disappointing returns.

But now that he bought into LaFleur's offense and returned to MVP form, people seem to think that no matter where he goes, he would just set the league on fire. Recent history tells us that that simply isn't true. The situation clearly matters for him to reach his potential.

But I guess the narrative that he'd be amazing anywhere isn't surprising, since so many people seem to think he has no help around him in Green Bay (help, like a top 5 OL, great running game, elite WR, and one of the most QB friendly offenses in football... that kind of help).

 

[BrokenArrow]

If this is just star loyalists adoring and fawning their guy, just say it. Otherwise please tell us how we fix this besides telling AR he is now the defacto gm and coach.

Thanks

If AR is a hindrance to MLF fully implementing his offense, then he can go. Yeah, AR had an MVP season last year, but he didn't do it because the old AR suddenly showed up after a 5 year absence. He wasn't hitting guys through 8" windows while scrambling the opposite direction like days of yore. He was hitting guys who were mostly wide open due to MLF's play design behind arguably the best pass blocking OL he'd ever had, not to mention the play action threat in Jones freezing linebackers.

In other words, it wasn't 2011-2015, with Rodgers elevating everyone around him and making McCarthy look good. It was HE who benefited from the pieces placed around him. But his ego won't allow him to understand that. So trade him to Dallas. He'll be happy there and MM can deal with his bull$hit.

 

[BrokenArrow]

So no Gary. Okay. Then who gets his pressure and sacks in last have of season?

What wr makes this team have an even better historical offense?

It amazes me how some people are more concerned with where players were drafted rather than what they do on the field.

 

[gbgary]

 

[AmishMafia]

Come on now.. don't be dense, you know that I'm referring to not only wasting last years #1 pick, but then going after another young QB when you have an MVP HOF at center. It's compounding mistakes on top of mistakes.

I don't believe every single report, if YOU did then why aren't you up in arms about the Packers saying told Rodgers they would trade Rodgers and pack your bags only to not do so? Very counter to their message basically all offseason so are they liars?

If I was a GM, I would keep drafting QBs until I got one I thought could win a SB. The .ore choices you have the better off you are. I'm not sold on Love making it and I don't think Gute is either. But you have to take a shot and hope he develops. Call it a mistake if you want but the facts are most QBs don't work out. But you have to try.

We don't have a HOF QB. He is at home throwing a hiss fit, holding his breath, and promising not to play anymore.

I don't believe every report I hear. Gute promising to trade Rodgers makes no sense. He would have set up Rodgers contract differently. It sounds like he had opportunities to trade him. Apparently, he didn't even listen to offers.

 

[BrokenArrow]

If I was GB brass. I'd trade love. and one of the Smith's. Get AR a couple select pieces that excites him. This draft would've been the same method.

And pay the man. He should be highest paid qb in the league. For more than 2 weeks at a time, before dipshits like cousins, and trubisky make what he makes.... if he signs team friendly deals like he has. Then the team needs to make rodgers friendly moves in n #12s favor.... they haven't. He has 5+ years left, and had 7+ years left when we drafted love..... no excuse for that.

Green bay is blowing it in a historically massive way. In Hope's love is the next rodgers......... like investing in lottery tickets. Idiotic.

5+ years left? Really? I highly doubt that. When QBs burn out, they burn out like light bulbs. AR's success this year was mostly due to the OL, MLF's scheme and the threat of Jones in the backfield allowing him to throw to guys who were wide open.

Do you think he would have had the same success with MM still at the helm? You do NOT ignore his performance from 2017-2019 just because of 2020. You don't pay the man stupid money just because the Vikings and Bears threw their guys stupid money. He will NEVER be worth more in a trade than he is right now. Strike while the iron's hot. I HATE prima donnas regardless of who it is. They're cancer.

 

[Zartan]

I dont know what to think anymore. I want to believe this is all clickbait ********. Him wanting Gute fired that is ****ing insane if true. Its one thing to nudge a HC that has lost the locker room and has became stale its a completely different thing to want a GM fired.

The major IF this is all true then them drafting Love makes total sense if the rumors of him forcing out MM and being a total diva is true. This has gone way beyond what Favre did, as I dont think he wanted TT fired.

All it takes to put out this inferno is one single tweet from him.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Rarely post or come to the site very often. Packer management is the problem. We have been lucky to have back to back QB's that every other team would cherish. We take it for granted. Murph, Gute, they can all go in my opinion. Can't remember the last 1st round pick I was excited about. Field this team without Rodgers and we're maybe a 5 win team. Think Jones is running when it's against 7 in the box because we can't throw? Without Rodgers we are back to the 70's Packers.

Did you not watch any of Rodgers play in the two seasons before MLF arrived? It wasn't pretty.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I dont know what to think anymore. I want to believe this is all clickbait ********. Him wanting Gute fired that is ******* insane if true. Its one thing to nudge a HC that has lost the locker room and has became stale its a completely different thing to want a GM fired.

The major IF this is all true then them drafting Love makes total sense if the rumors of him forcing out MM and being a total diva is true. This has gone way beyond what Favre did, as I dont think he wanted TT fired.

All it takes to put out this inferno is one single tweet from him.

I miss Brett, and I sided with the Packers in 2008. You might be able to debate who the better quarterback is/was. They were completely different kinds of players. But to me, it's no question who the better man is. When the Pack had a bad day, Brett always shouldered the blame first. Aaron always points the finger elsewhere.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I don’t think he has an issue with love the player, the issue probably is that they were one game away from the super bowl, and rather than get a player who could help the team, they trade up in the first round to draft his immediate replacement. Plus with how his contract is structured, it makes it real easy for the packers to move on from him after the season. The structure of his contract and selecting Love was essentially the packers FO saying he’s gone within the next 2 seasons. He’s stated several times over his career that he wanted to play in Green Bay until he retires, into his 40s.
If I were in his shoes, I’d be pretty upset too. Especially if I were arguably the best QB of all time and have essentially carried the franchise on my back for a decade and a half.

You're forgetting the context. In MLF's first season Rodgers gave every indication from the start that he was going to butt heads with MLF and things were going to be done HIS way. AR tried from the start to make MLF compromise his offense and the first season with MLF was very much that way. No coach should have to deal with that ****. So drafting Love was a "get with the ******** program" pick, and to a large degree, he did. I would bet my bottom dollar that if AR had not tried to play power games with MLF and bought into his system from the start then they never would have drafted Love.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I have a feeling it's more than just Love as to why Rodgers feels the way he does. Probably feels there are a bunch of snakes in the FO, which wouldn't be all that surprising. Rodgers has paid the bills for A LOT of FO members who didn't deserve the amount of time they were with the team. Eventually I'd get sick of it too

FO re-signed all the most important pieces to the offense. HOW DARE THEY, THOSE SNAKES! ****, man. Something tells me if Rodgers put his jock strap up on ebay you'd be the high bidder.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I said it a while ago that they were working in his contract and thats why no real fa signing.

Murphy came out today and said they been working in this for months.

What ever the sticking point is dont just blame the fo because its easiest.

I still have a feeeling he said something last year that made them want to take Love.

The first season he insisted that MLF compromise with him on how to run the offense. I think that's what prompted them to draft Love. JL is a guy that represents a great fit for the things MLF wants to do. Drafting him was pretty much a chess move to force AR to get with the damn program, and it worked. Hell, that alone probably ****** him off. Rodgers is a control freak and can't stand it that some of that control was wrestled away, much to the team's overall benefit, I might add.

 

[Ogsponge]

What are they refusing to do that is acceptable?

Not a single poster has answered this outside of some Festivus style "airing of grievances".

The team has given him protection (highest paid ever less than 6 months ago), a top wr RESIGNED, and brought back EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE player that could be squeezed from a dollar bill.

They didn't put some weird intangible trade together to get another WR. They didn't go back in time and unwind the Love pick.

When does it become an undeliverable request?

Why do people keep saying a top WR resigned when that flat out has not happened?

 

[sjb12681]

Why do people keep saying a top WR resigned when that flat out has not happened?

Yes, it did.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ms-green-bay-packers-signs-contract-extension

What's even funnier is the very first sentence of the article, where AR asked for it to happen, and they got it done.

But this team hates AR and never gave him ANY tools to succeed.

 

[Ogsponge]

Yes, it did.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ms-green-bay-packers-signs-contract-extension

What's even funnier is the very first sentence of the article, where AR asked for it to happen, and they got it done.

But this team hates AR and never gave him ANY tools to succeed.

Ah I did not realize you were talking about a deal that happened a century ago, my bad. I incorrectly assumed you were talking about current and relevant events.

 

[sjb12681]

It was 3 seasons ago, well within the range of this conversation.

What a silly take that having the best WR in football under contract doesn't count as "doing something" to help our diva qb.

 

[longtimefan]

Ah I did not realize you were talking about a deal that happened a century ago, my bad. I incorrectly assumed you were talking about current and relevant events.

Rodgers asked for them to do it and they did. Its very relavant to current issues

 

[jhawk008]

FO re-signed all the most important pieces to the offense. HOW DARE THEY, THOSE SNAKES! ****, man. Something tells me if Rodgers put his jock strap up on ebay you'd be the high bidder.

Just like your slobbering all over the FO and not holding them accountable for depth on the team, WHICH IS THEIR JOB AND THE REASON WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A SB. Just admit your a delusional Packer fan, who doesn't hold the FO accountable and be be done with it. Would make reading your posts more bearable

 

[Jerellh528]

It was 3 seasons ago, well within the range of this conversation.

What a silly take that having the best WR in football under contract doesn't count as "doing something" to help our diva qb.

love Adams, but he’s benefiting a lot from Rodgers in being regarded as the best wr in football

 

[Ceodore]

If this business is true about him demanding Gute be fired for drafting Love, I'm done with the AR train. Petty AF and extremely selfish of him to expect them to not plan for the future post-AR whatsoever.

I didn't like the pick but holy **** man.

 

[Pugger]

I've lost all respect for Aaron Rodgers. He's revealed himself to be another selfish diva. This is nothing but a financial shake down. I will never cheer the guy again whether he plays for the Packers or some other team.

Unless I hear it from the horse's mouth I'm not going to lose any sleep over this. Russell Wilson wasn't happy either but he is still on the Seahawk's roster.