Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[rmontro]

But if someone wants out, I don't find it likely they'd commit the time and work necessary to play out the whole season for a team they don't want to be on.

That would be my concern with Rodgers playing for GB with the understanding he gets traded at the end of the season. Would he really be invested fully? Would he take himself out if he gets a hangnail, because he doesn't want to risk further injury? The story is he's been hitting the offseason workouts hard though. That could be to be prepared to play for someone else, who knows?

If that was the plan, I wonder what the chances would be of Rodgers starting the first half of the season, and then starting to phase Love in? Sounds kind of crazy, admittedly.

 

[AKCheese]

I mean to be honest, for years my Bears fan friends always hated Rodgers and couldn't understand how I was a fan of such an arrogant person.....I always said I am not a fan of his, but a fan of the Packers - Rodgers is and always has been a smug, arrogant cuss that is the type of person I'd strongly dislike in real life; BUT IS A BAAAAAAAAAD MAN AT THE QB POSITION.

Until the playoffs

 

[Mondio]

That would be my concern with Rodgers playing for GB with the understanding he gets traded at the end of the season. Would he really be invested fully? Would he take himself out if he gets a hangnail, because he doesn't want to risk further injury? The story is he's been hitting the offseason workouts hard though. That could be to be prepared to play for someone else, who knows?

If that was the plan, I wonder what the chances would be of Rodgers starting the first half of the season, and then starting to phase Love in? Sounds kind of crazy, admittedly.

I think Rodgers is going to be ready to play regardless. He's a pro, that's why all this kind of surprises me a bit that it's gone to this length, but then I don't really know anything about what's going on, so what do I know LOL

I don't think he'd be the type to play half in, this is where his drive to be the best and personal pride works in the team's favor. I don't see Rodgers undermining his own play for any reason. But his unwavering belief in himself has brought us to this point too. at this point nothing will surprise me, but I just don't find any pre season agreement to trade at season's end being very plausible.

and I could see him sit out right up until the time it's time to play and he'll be ready and be one of the top QB's in the league after a week of work. So while I want resolution, i guess it happens when it happens.

 

[sschind]

Its one thing to play the last season of a contract knowing that in all likelihood you will not be on the team next year because you are a FA ands it likely the team won't resign you. That happens all the time.

Its a completely different matter to play that season with a promise from the team they will trade you next offseason. From a team standpoint I think that would be one of the stupidest promises you could make and I can't imagine any GM making that promise.

I don't think it would really affect the way AR approaches the season but as a fan I would be kind of pissed if Gute made that promise to any player.

 

[thequick12]

Source?

It's a rumor one of those media guys said back when things first broke...I'm sure you can find it if you google it

 

[rmontro]

I don't think he'd be the type to play half in, this is where his drive to be the best and personal pride works in the team's favor. I don't see Rodgers undermining his own play for any reason.

Yeah, Rodgers is very competitive, it's hard to imagine him sandbagging it. I do think he might be more likely to pull himself out due to injury, but that's just speculation.

By the way, today I'm thinking Rodgers plays for us this year.

 

[OldSchool101]

Isn't that the 2 players that have been together the longest on offense and how many Super Bowls since?
" Keeping Rodgers and Adams together does give the Packers 2 high end players, but as Mondio alluded to, it also handcuffs you when it comes to the amount of cap you have to spend on the rest of the team.

I think that’s the part many fans want to conveniently bury under a rug.

I agree Rodgers could earn his salary maybe this season and next. Past 2022 I do not believe his quality improves and it’s likely his play diminished some.
If we signed him past 2022 with guaranteed, would he balance that contract by taking a balanced approach to account for a slight age regression?
e.g, a restructured 5X150mil with roughly 125 guaranteed? I doubt he’d do that.

Secondly, correct me if I’m wrong, but the GBP Cap situation is easily in the 50% of the league “not so good” category. How do we balance the real life contracts of Rodgers, Davante and still keep Z and J’aire and MVS and Amos and Jones and.. you get the picture.

Not one person in here has told me the 3-4 current players making over 7mil that they are prepared to cut. I’ve asked that question several times and the fiscal aspect is almost always (conveniently) argued with “but having a great QB is IMPORTANT!” Duhhh!

PS. Thankfully I’m married and thus nearly an expert on this argument of thinking: If I had a Nickel for the number of times I have heard “but I saved so much $$$” OR the ever popular “it was a bargain considering the quality and demand for this one of a kind.. -insert whatever- and just look at its luster! It’s so necessary for our livelihood!”
It’s all fun and games until you balance your checkbook and realize you’re overdrawn!

 

[OldSchool101]

Yeah, Rodgers is very competitive, it's hard to imagine him sandbagging it. I do think he might be more likely to pull himself out due to injury, but that's just speculation.

By the way, today I'm thinking Rodgers plays for us this year.

I agree. The probability meter flipped into our favor during the “opt out” option passing July 4 weekend (that statement might confound a few of those fans who mistakenly think I’m wildly anti-Rodgers)
The whole changing of the guard is likely best suited long term by Rodgers playing out another season or two in Green n Gold and fulfilling the original plan the team had. Even the argument of him not being fully committed is less harmful than deviating from our original plans.

The only other realistic option that aligns fiscally with GB’s cap status is to modify Rodgers long term at league high, then prepare to gut several key contributors on the remaining roster. In addition, in the medium term, we would lose several more internal/external FA options due to a lack of proper bargaining power and being non contract competitive going forward. Agree or disagree with the debate, the effects of the Rodgers decision will impact roughly 1/4 of the remaining roster on a substantial scale to the good or bad in relation to a rookie deal approach. Outside of Rodgers singular argument which is acceptable to debate, it’s an ultimate decision to make a definitive stand to either Roster Impede or Improve

 

[Pkrjones]

The only other realistic option that aligns fiscally with GB’s cap status is to resign Rodgers long term at league high, then prepare to gut several key contributors on the remaining roster. In addition we would lose several more internal/external FA options due to a lack of proper bargaining power and being non contract competitive going forward.

That's not really a realistic option....gutting the team to keep the highest paid QB. IMHO, the Gute plan has been to trade AR after '21 season allowing Love 2 years to learn & progress AND jettisoning AR's cap to keep Adams, Alexander, and other necessary vets in GB. AR is trying to change that plan while he still thinks he has some leverage.

 

[OldSchool101]

That's not really a realistic option....gutting the team to keep the highest paid QB. IMHO, the Gute plan has been to trade AR after '21 season allowing Love 2 years to learn & progress AND jettisoning AR's cap to keep Adams, Alexander, and other necessary vets in GB. AR is trying to change that plan while he still thinks he has some leverage.

Yes. Of course you and I know that PK. Maybe it’s not realistic and more of a playing devil’s advocate approach to reach across the divided fan base with an olive branch, in order to help enlighten some living in a monetary fairytale.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That's not really a realistic option....gutting the team to keep the highest paid QB. IMHO, the Gute plan has been to trade AR after '21 season allowing Love 2 years to learn & progress AND jettisoning AR's cap to keep Adams, Alexander, and other necessary vets in GB. AR is trying to change that plan while he still thinks he has some leverage.

While I agree I prefer using the words "option to" trade Rodgers VS "Plan to".

I don't think there was anything set in stone, but like a smart GM does, Gute leveraged the Packers into a position to have some options down the road. Options that included Rodgers and ones that didn't. Too many people, Rodgers being the most important one of them, seem to think it was a full fledged one way plan to get rid of him after 2021, I don't believe that to be true.

 

[Premontre1969]

I agree. The probability meter flipped into our favor during the “opt out” option passing July 4 weekend (that statement might confound a few of those fans who mistakenly think I’m wildly anti-Rodgers)
The whole changing of the guard is likely best suited long term by Rodgers playing out another season or two in Green n Gold and fulfilling the original plan the team had. Even the argument of him not being fully committed is less harmful than deviating from our original plans.

The only other realistic option that aligns fiscally with GB’s cap status is to modify Rodgers long term at league high, then prepare to gut several key contributors on the remaining roster. In addition, in the medium term, we would lose several more internal/external FA options due to a lack of proper bargaining power and being non contract competitive going forward. Agree or disagree with the debate, the effects of the Rodgers decision will impact roughly 1/4 of the remaining roster on a substantial scale to the good or bad in relation to a rookie deal approach. Outside of Rodgers singular argument which is acceptable to debate, it’s an ultimate decision to make a definitive stand to either Roster Impede or Improve

Aaron has been a Green Bay Packer his entire professional career. My hope is that this is emotionally more than just business and that Aaron bleeds Green and Gold. There’s bound to be a fight in the family at some point and hopefully, this will pass. AR finishes his career as a Green Bay Packer. I hope, I hope.

 

[OldSchool101]

Aaron has been a Green Bay Packer his entire professional career. My hope is that this is emotionally more than just business and that Aaron bleeds Green and Gold. There’s bound to be a fight in the family at some point and hopefully, this will pass. AR finishes his career as a Green Bay Packer. I hope, I hope.

I respect that. However Aaron needs to take his own advice and chill and understand his role. He’s not our HC and he’s not our GM or whatever other position he thinks he’s superior at.
If Aaron wants to dabble in those roles he needs to retire and apply. This whole cerebral act is getting annoying.

 

[Spanky]

While I agree I prefer using the words "option to" trade Rodgers VS "Plan to".

Agree 100%. Love becoming the starting QB was never a given. It was dependent on Rodgers regressing and Love showing he was capable of being an excellent starting QB. But Rodgers got butt hurt and wanted to take his ball and go home.

 

[Firethorn1001]

There’s bound to be a fight in the family at some point and hopefully, this will pass.

Hope Aaron doesn't think of the Packers as family because then they will never talk to him again if he treats them like the rest of his family.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I'm annoyed to say the least it's not resolved and without knowing details I'm trying not to get too annoyed. But on the surface, it seems like this is the "fault" of Rodgers. Maybe he has a personality conflict or something with someone, but you can have that and still do you job.

Well in a way it is. I would say the best way to dictate where your future as a player is to get out there on that field and keep playing at a high level. Rodgers not coming in and deciding to put this issue with the front office to bed, or at least putting it on hold until next off-season rings pretty bad for him. He has dragged this out a bit too long I think, and if he's mad at Gute for any issues, he should either just say "trade me now", or " I'm going to stick it to you out there on the field" and then get to training camp, preseason and regular season and do so.

 

[LetzBreel]

I am a little surprised that it took some of you so long to see #12 for what he is. What you are seeing now is some major back peddling by someone who made a move to flex his muscle and had his bluff called. Now what? Well in poker terms, he either folds (too arrogant to do that), calls the bluff or goes all in. I don't think he has the sack to do either of the last two. He already looks ridiculous IMO but his ego won't let him admit defeat (except of course on the football field where IMO he has done just that - QUIT!). Sure, it sounds harsh but this is your typical ego driven fool. It won't surprise me if he tries to pass it off as a big spoof.

 

[OldSchool101]

I don’t see what the problem is here. I mean we’re all practically family (not really but just for effect).
I mean just because a guy doesn’t show up to work anymore and leads a mini-mutiny off the field, then insults the very core of his employers philosophy and singled out those running the organization and attempts to take the entire NFL hostage on draft night and said he doesn’t want to play for Green Bay… or if not, demand he be traded. Then threaten to retire and turns his nose up at likely a record multi-annual contract and imply the front office doesn’t like “people”.

I mean… what’s the problem with you guys! Y’all are just butt hurt

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I don’t see what the problem is here. I mean we’re all practically family (not really but just for effect).
I mean just because a guy doesn’t show up to work anymore and leads a mini-mutiny off the field, then insults the very core of his employers philosophy and singled out those running the organization and attempts to take the entire NFL hostage on draft night and said he doesn’t want to play for Green Bay… or if not, demand he be traded. Then threaten to retire and turns his nose up at likely a record multi-annual contract and imply the front office doesn’t like “people”.

I mean… what’s the problem with you guys! Y’all are just butt hurt

Slight correction, he's been cryptic on a trade front not denying rumors that he wants out, but also not coming out and saying it. I think that's why the frustration by some here is building because I agree he should just publicly admit he wants to be traded if that's the case. Would still look bad but at least he'd be being honest, and then the whole thing could be ended.

 

[Premontre1969]

Hope Aaron doesn't think of the Packers as family because then they will never talk to him again if he treats them like the rest of his family.

How he treats the rest of his family? What do you know about that? Lotta second hand gossip that doesn’t deserve to be reflected by anyone, particularly a Packer fan.
Let’s be positive, hopeful and respectful toward the players and each other. Please don’t continue to stir things up.

 

[AKCheese]

The one thing I hope we DON’T do is mortgage our future throwing a ton of money at Rodgers. Not only is it bad football team/cap management… the precedent it sets is horrendous. All this yammer about Adams might leave? How many teams win the super bowl having a gigantic amount of their cap tied up in a QB and one wide receiver. I’m ready to move on from Rodgers, great technician… underachieves in the playoffs (kindly) and points fingers. Why pay him huge money this year for him gracing us with his petulent pressence? Everyone knows he’s not commited to the Packers… save the money, keep him healthy, and get what we can next spring

 

[Firethorn1001]

How he treats the rest of his family? What do you know about that? Lotta second hand gossip that doesn’t deserve to be reflected by anyone, particularly a Packer fan.
Let’s be positive, hopeful and respectful toward the players and each other. Please don’t continue to stir things up.

Lighten up Francis.

My joke isn't wrong. Aaron isn't talking to his family so, if the Packers are family he won't talk be talking to them.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Let’s be positive, hopeful and respectful toward the players and each other. Please don’t continue to stir things up.

Right. We need to be just like Aaron and be loyal to our team and fans!

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[longtimefan]

How he treats the rest of his family? What do you know about that? Lotta second hand gossip that doesn’t deserve to be reflected by anyone, particularly a Packer fan.
Let’s be positive, hopeful and respectful toward the players and each other. Please don’t continue to stir things up.

Well...he doesnt talk to them..so statement is accurate

 

[OldSchool101]

Slight correction, he's been cryptic on a trade front not denying rumors that he wants out, but also not coming out and saying it. I think that's why the frustration by some here is building because I agree he should just publicly admit he wants to be traded if that's the case. Would still look bad but at least he'd be being honest, and then the whole thing could be ended.

Regardless of what I personally want. My objective guess is leaning that he will play out 2021 in Green n Gold. I just don’t see the benefit to a trade for either side until next season. Had we wanted him past 2022, it would’ve happened by now, the man just put up one of the best QB performances this decade.

His very public disgust with the GBP brass has hurt his long term outlook substantially. I’m not sure we can get past that anymore. It might not be enough to sit him or the like, but his chances of a substantial extension or restructure diminished with his outward verbal displeasure with essentially the entire FO and it’s core philosophy.

It’s my opinion that Rodgers will just find someone else to clash with (maybe not intentionally, but it’s his MO) and he’s been the common denominator in nearly every riff going back to 2014. I’m not proud of that or celebrating that because it sucks. But it is accurate