Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[thequick12]

No thanks. You are fully in or fully out. The kind of side show that situation could create wouldn't be worth the money, nor the risk of Rodgers suffering a major injury that diminishes his trade value greatly. If we are moving on from him at the end of 2021, due to him wanting to move on, don't tell him that, force his hand and make it financially sting a bit, by giving him little choice but to sit.

Wasn't the rumor that gute had told Rodgers he would trade him after the 2020 season...that worked out pretty good

 

[gopkrs]

I don't have a problem with it at all. As long as we get fair compensation. He has been a Packer for a long time now. This recent ruckus does not negate that for me.

 

[Spanky]

The Packers will agree to trade Rodgers after the 2021 season--IF--they feel confident Love can take over in 2022. Right now I guarantee they do not have that confidence. Rodgers choices are to play for the Packers until THEY decide to trade him, play out his entire contract and become an unrestricted free agent, or retire.

 

[Spanky]

Wasn't the rumor that gute had told Rodgers he would trade him after the 2020 season...that worked out pretty good

That was a rumor along with so many others. I have seen no credible evidence it is true.

 

[rmontro]

I wish the Packers would just wake up and form a super team in gb with Rodgers and Adams. Being good every year is cool and all but winning superbowls is what it's all about and I just don't know that the gb front office shares that philosophy

I'm curious to see, if Rodgers does play elsewhere, how team-friendly a contract he signs. Or if he'll just be out to get the most money he can get.

 

[longtimefan]

Wasn't the rumor that gute had told Rodgers he would trade him after the 2020 season...that worked out pretty good

Source?

 

[Spanky]

Source?

It was one of a million reports by NFL gossip mongers. I found this article describing the rumor. Personally, I don't think the Packers would have ever told Rodgers they would trade him after 2020. From a salary cap standpoint it would have made no sense. I think all along they wanted to move Rodgers after the 2021 season assuming Love was progressing nicely and Rodgers continued his slide from 2018-2019. Thus far, neither of those things have happened.

Packers regard notion that Aaron Rodgers was told he'd be traded as "unequivocally false"

As the Aaron Rodgers saga continues, a persistent contention lingers in league circles.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[Mondio]

I think the odds anybody in the FO told Rodgers they'd trade him after last year is much closer to zero than it would even be to 1% LOL. It makes zero sense from a financial standpoint alone. I also see the odds that a player is going to dedicate a season and give his all knowing and wanting to be traded by that team at the end of it. and I definitely wouldn't see a player wanting and thinking he's going to be thankfully traded at the end of the year being anybody a team rallies around.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I wish the Packers would just wake up and form a super team in gb with Rodgers and Adams. Being good every year is cool and all but winning superbowls is what it's all about and I just don't know that the gb front office shares that philosophy

Isn't that the 2 players that have been together the longest on offense and how many Super Bowls since? This whole notion of "we haven't won a SB since 2010, therefore we suck and our front office doesn't want to win them" is such a pile of steaming horsesh*t. One could flip that and say "The Packers highest paid players, Rodgers being one of them, don't care about Super Bowls, because if they did, they wouldn't ask for so much money and the Packers could build a better team." Keeping Rodgers and Adams together does give the Packers 2 high end players, but as Mondio alluded to, it also handcuffs you when it comes to the amount of cap you have to spend on the rest of the team.

 

[gopkrs]

No thanks. You are fully in or fully out. The kind of side show that situation could create wouldn't be worth the money, nor the risk of Rodgers suffering a major injury that diminishes his trade value greatly. If we are moving on from him at the end of 2021, due to him wanting to move on, don't tell him that, force his hand and make it financially sting a bit, by giving him little choice but to sit.

I am thinking about what is best for The Pack. I understand your points but just don't agree that the situation is going to carry over come gametime. And I don't think you can play scared as far as injury is concerned. We are looking at a possible super bowl imho. And giving more time to Love. And I don't want to play games as far as moving on from ARod. I think you can say the truth. Which in my mind is that we don't know what we will be thinking at the end of 2021. I don't see a good reason for taking him to task by playing anymore hardball than what we are doing.

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Murphy must go! This has been an embarrassing and the most distracting off-season. More so than Brett's. He has no leadership.

 

[PikeBadger]

Murphy must go! This has been an embarrassing and the most distracting off-season. More so than Brett's. He has no leadership.

Really??? Lol, you’re embarrassed because our starting QB has gone 3/4 diva on all of Packer mgmt because they had the nerve to draft a QB who they really liked in terms of draft value, after Gutekunst told him they may draft a QB? Are you embarrassed because the babbling national sports media created a firestorm after Rodgers camp leaked his disgruntled tender feelings? And all this is Murphy’s fault because he, Gutekunst and LaFleur all visited with Rodgers prior to the 2021 draft?
It appears to me that you have an insatiable man-crush on Rodgers. Now THAT would truly be something to be embarrassed about. I’m embarrassed for any Packers fan outside of a child or teenager that would have a man crush on any athlete.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I am thinking about what is best for The Pack. I understand your points but just don't agree that the situation is going to carry over come gametime. And I don't think you can play scared as far as injury is concerned. We are looking at a possible super bowl imho. And giving more time to Love. And I don't want to play games as far as moving on from ARod. I think you can say the truth. Which in my mind is that we don't know what we will be thinking at the end of 2021. I don't see a good reason for taking him to task by playing anymore hardball than what we are doing.

Not sure what you are proposing, because it seems to basically be what is on the table right now and has been that way since he was drafted: "Come play for us, but we have no crystal ball as to your future beyond 2021". Am I missing something?

My comments were aimed at those people who want the Packers to come to an agreement with Rodgers "One more year and then we will trade you." I wouldn't want to see that. Also, not sure how you can't think about injuries that would effect that. What do you do with Davante then if he says "Well, I'm not signing a new deal, but am going to play out my year here and then see what happens."?

Sorry, even with that chance of a SB in 2021, I would prefer not doing it with a Lame Duck QB. I think the chances are higher that you don't win a SB, waste all the money you have to pay Rodgers, you stunt Love's growth another year and you could possibly end up trying to trade a now 38 year old QB with more mileage and possible new injuries.

 

[gopkrs]

What do you do with Davante then if he says "Well, I'm not signing a new deal, but am going to play out my year here and then see what happens."?

I think that is his right to do so. He is the one taking the big risk.

 

[gopkrs]

Not sure what you are proposing, because it seems to basically be what is on the table right now and has been that way since he was drafted: "Come play for us, but we have no crystal ball as to your future beyond 2021". Am I missing something?

No, I don't think you are missing anything. But it is very different from what you were saying imo

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Sorry but if we won a Superbowl in his last year before trading him, I`d be super pissed and asking him why we haven`t won more than one in his tenure prior to it. We don`t know the full story about Rodgers and management, my feeling on the subject remains the same though, if he thought anything about the fan base, he should have thrown us a bone before now.......Anything ! I`d hold him to his contract and let him sit on the bench.

 

[rmontro]

I think the odds anybody in the FO told Rodgers they'd trade him after last year is much closer to zero than it would even be to 1% LOL.

I think there was a lot of discussion here that the team might move on from Rodgers after the 2022 season, rather than the 2021 season. But Rodgers had supposedly said one reason he wanted to leave Green Bay was because he didn't want to play for a team that wasn't committed to him (just another of the million rumors swirling about). If Gute had promised him a trade after this season, that would indicate GB isn't committed to him, so why would he want to play for them?

Sorry but if we won a Superbowl in his last year before trading him, I`d be super pissed and asking him why we haven`t won more than one in his tenure prior to it.

Two is better than one. Two would do a lot to alleviate the sense of disappointment around Rodgers' tenure here. Someone might also say Thompson, McCarthy, and Capers were the reason we only had one Super Bowl in that span.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Two is better than one. Two would do a lot to alleviate the sense of disappointment around Rodgers' tenure here. Someone might also say Thompson, McCarthy, and Capers were the reason we only had one Super Bowl in that span.

But that`s been the mantra for years, it`s ALWAYS somebody else`s fault. We obviously see things differently and that`s fine. I`ve grown tired of everybody but him getting flak for our failings over the years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think that is his right to do so. He is the one taking the big risk.

Risk of injury? I just had someone tell me that the Packers shouldn't worry about those things if they play Rodgers in 2021 with the plan to trade him after.

If Davante was a JAG, I wouldn't care. However, he already came out and said that what Rodgers does might influence his decision to stay in Green Bay. If he is willing to sign a new deal and it looks likely he is headed out of Green Bay in 2022, then trade him now.

 

[rmontro]

But that`s been the mantra for years, it`s ALWAYS somebody else`s fault. We obviously see things differently and that`s fine. I`ve grown tired of everybody but him getting flak for our failings over the years.

Oh, I'm not at all trying to suggest that Rodgers doesn't bear some responsibility for our big losses.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No, I don't think you are missing anything. But it is very different from what you were saying imo

Then what are you proposing the Packers do with Rodgers? Like I said, it seems like you aren't proposing anything that isn't already being proposed and on the table by the Packers. Which is "play in 2021 and lets see where we are at the end of the year as far as keeping him." So in reality, it is still Rodgers decision of he plays or sits. The proposed CHANGE would be the Packers formally signing something that says "play for us and we guarantee that we will trade you right after the season ends". That I am opposed to (the guaranteeing him a trade part). I actually wouldn't be opposed to the Packers agreeing to Rodgers sitting out of 2021, thereby losing all the money and bonuses he would otherwise make if he played and then trade him. Basically I don't want him fully paid and here just for one lame duck season.

 

[gopkrs]

Risk of injury? I just had someone tell me that the Packers shouldn't worry about those things if they play Rodgers in 2021 with the plan to trade him after.

If Davante was a JAG, I wouldn't care. However, he already came out and said that what Rodgers does might influence his decision to stay in Green Bay. If he is willing to sign a new deal and it looks likely he is headed out of Green Bay in 2022, then trade him now.

I think there are two parts here. 1. Yeah, risk of injury. imo a team cannot afford to play conservative (in games or in contract) because they are worried about injuries. But a player has to think of his and his family's future. The team has to play to win. 2. I certainly understand you saying to trade Davante if that is the case. But I might want to hold out a bit and see where we are going season wise. You could still trade him during the season. It is a tough call imho and that is why we have a General Manager or whatever we have.

 

[gopkrs]

Then what are you proposing the Packers do with Rodgers? Like I said, it seems like you aren't proposing anything that isn't already being proposed and on the table by the Packers. Which is "play in 2021 and lets see where we are at the end of the year as far as keeping him." So in reality, it is still Rodgers decision of he plays or sits. The proposed CHANGE would be the Packers formally signing something that says "play for us and we guarantee that we will trade you right after the season ends". That I am opposed to (the guaranteeing him a trade part). I actually wouldn't be opposed to the Packers agreeing to Rodgers sitting out of 2021, thereby losing all the money and bonuses he would otherwise make if he played and then trade him. Basically I don't want him fully paid and here just for one lame duck season.

I think I understand you better now. That would be really tough on ARod imho if people knew there was an agreement like that. And The Packers really do not have to do that. He has a contract.

 

[Mondio]

I think there was a lot of discussion here that the team might move on from Rodgers after the 2022 season, rather than the 2021 season. But Rodgers had supposedly said one reason he wanted to leave Green Bay was because he didn't want to play for a team that wasn't committed to him (just another of the million rumors swirling about). If Gute had promised him a trade after this season, that would indicate GB isn't committed to him, so why would he want to play for them?


Two is better than one. Two would do a lot to alleviate the sense of disappointment around Rodgers' tenure here. Someone might also say Thompson, McCarthy, and Capers were the reason we only had one Super Bowl in that span.

Of course there was discussion Rodgers might be gone in 2022. The details of his contract and his age are two huge indicators that was the possibility. it also wasn't set in stone either. If he was playing well, there was a good chance he'd be here longer too. Of course if he wasn't earning his salary at that point, the team had the option of moving on and just losing the player not taking a financial hit along with it. he knew the deal when he signed the deal.


But that doesn't mean the team said they'd trade him after last year as was being reported, because that makes no sense financially for them to do that and I can't believe any NFL QB or any NFL GM would come to those terms before a season started. #1, i'm not believing in a player that isn't committed to the team and #2 I don't believe any player would play an entire season just so he could be traded. Maybe put on a good game and say, somebody come get me i want out. But if someone wants out, I don't find it likely they'd commit the time and work necessary to play out the whole season for a team they don't want to be on.

 

[gopkrs]

Of course there was discussion Rodgers might be gone in 2022. The details of his contract and his age are two huge indicators that was the possibility. it also wasn't set in stone either. If he was playing well, there was a good chance he'd be here longer too. Of course if he wasn't earning his salary at that point, the team had the option of moving on and just losing the player not taking a financial hit along with it. he knew the deal when he signed the deal.

Totally agree with this.