Rodgers contract discussion

[C-Lee]

Why post this? lol

Rodgers isn't going anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

As long as James Jones doesn't report there's a rift between the Packers and Rodgers there's no reason for fans to get worried about any media reports.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I wouldn't sign Rodgers to anything until seeing him make all the throws in game action. Even then, the cap numbers just don't add up.

The Packers definitely have to get creative in structuring Rodgers' extension but re-signing him is a must.

 

[rmontro]

When I read the subject line, the first thing I did was to wonder who "Meada" was. I figured it must be someone in the Packers front office, like Chuck Meada, lol.
Seriously, no offense to the OP, I do more than my share of typos.

 

[longtimefan]

with in a week??? very well could happen

 

[HardRightEdge]

The Packers definitely have to get creative in structuring Rodgers' extension but re-signing him is a must.

"Soon". Maybe.

 

[HardRightEdge]

As long as James Jones doesn't report there's a rift between the Packers and Rodgers there's no reason for fans to get worried about any media reports.

As long as Aaron Rodgers does not report there's a rift between him and the Packers there's no reason for fans to get worried.

Even then, the fact that Brees was franchised two years running, even taking the Saints to arbitration, without a fall off in his play, indicates how a consumate professional deals with a salary dispute on the field. I think we would categorize Rodgers as one of those consumate professionals.

I would not be concerned if the Packers' definition of "soon" is not what most fans expect.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Seriously, no offense to the OP, I do more than my share of typos.

WOW someone else with occasional case of fat fingers...……..

 

[HardRightEdge]

WOW someone else with occasional case of fat fingers...……..

I wouldn't ordinarily comment on a typo (it's against the forum rules!), but that one was so far off with comic possibilities.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

I wouldn't ordinarily comment on a typo (it's against the forum rules!)

You mean I can be a typing idiot and still be protected by this forum,?
What a great world we live in...….

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You mean I can be a typing idiot and still be protected by this forum,?
What a great world we live in...….

Always best to use Smell Check.

 

[sschind]

So the article says we shouldn't assume Aaron's silence indicates contentment. What about his non silence where he says it will take care of itself and he is not particularly worried about it. Should we assume he is lying about that.

 

[Mondio]

So the article says we shouldn't assume Aaron's silence indicates contentment. What about his non silence where he says it will take care of itself and he is not particularly worried about it. Should we assume he is lying about that.

Probably, it will help everyone stay at a frenzied pace about everything all the time. Warranted or not. Assume the worst, always. Especially when you have zero control over any of it, and it's impact on your life is infinitesimal is all the more reason to think the worst. It helps give junk journalists a job and we should all care about the economy and jobs.

 

[swhitset]

Probably, it will help everyone stay at a frenzied pace about everything all the time. Warranted or not. Assume the worst, always. Especially when you have zero control over any of it, and it's impact on your life is infinitesimal is all the more reason to think the worst. It helps give junk journalists a job and we should all care about the economy and jobs.

“junk journalists”is giving them too much credit.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers signed a five-year, $110 million deal and that made him the highest-paid player in the NFL on an annual basis at the time. He has 2 years left on that deal. As much as people want him to be paid what he is worth NOW, in comparison to the other recently signed QB's, I'm just fine with making him wait until he proves his arm can withstand a game or two. I don't see anyone else pushing his salary up any higher and I don't see Aaron deciding to sit out his last 2 years.

Sorry, but I am getting tired of the media, as well as panicked fans with this one. How much news have we heard in the last few years about how overpaid Clay Matthews and Randall Cobb are? I don't see either of those players rushing into the Packer front office and demanding a salary reduction to meet their new market value.

The Packers could keep AR in Green and Gold for another 4 years (without redoing his current contract) which maybe all he has left in him, they won't, but they could and he should know that.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Who's Meada?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I wouldn't sign Rodgers to anything until seeing him make all the throws in game action. Even then, the cap numbers just don't add up.

Why? We already know he can make the throws. He's been doing it for 10 years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Why? We already know he can make the throws. He's been doing it for 10 years.

13 screws and 2 plates in his throwing shoulder would be my response. If that doesn't make "meada" a bit nervous when you are talking about the guaranteed $$ he will receive, than I guess people are willing to write checks they don't have or aren't writing.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

As long as Aaron Rodgers does not report there's a rift between him and the Packers there's no reason for fans to get worried.

Even then, the fact that Brees was franchised two years running, even taking the Saints to arbitration, without a fall off in his play, indicates how a consumate professional deals with a salary dispute on the field. I think we would categorize Rodgers as one of those consumate professionals.

I mentioned James Jones because Rodgers confirmed during an interview with NFL Network only a week ago that it will be the former Packers receiver breaking news about his contract extension.

While Brees performed at the same level during a contract dispute with the Saints there's no guarantee it wouldn't affect Rodgers' play.

Rodgers signed a five-year, $110 million deal and that made him the highest-paid player in the NFL on an annual basis at the time. He has 2 years left on that deal. As much as people want him to be paid what he is worth NOW, in comparison to the other recently signed QB's, I'm just fine with making him wait until he proves his arm can withstand a game or two. I don't see anyone else pushing his salary up any higher and I don't see Aaron deciding to sit out his last 2 years.

Sorry, but I am getting tired of the media, as well as panicked fans with this one.

Rodgers indicated last offseason that he was unhappy with not being one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league anymore during an interview with Jason Wilde.

While it might not be necessary to extend Rodgers before the start of this season I understand the team wanting to keep the franchise quarterback satisfied, especially after putting themselves in a corner by repeatedly mentioning being interested in getting it done this offseason.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Rodgers signed a five-year, $110 million deal and that made him the highest-paid player in the NFL on an annual basis at the time. He has 2 years left on that deal. As much as people want him to be paid what he is worth NOW, in comparison to the other recently signed QB's, I'm just fine with making him wait until he proves his arm can withstand a game or two. I don't see anyone else pushing his salary up any higher and I don't see Aaron deciding to sit out his last 2 years.

Sorry, but I am getting tired of the media, as well as panicked fans with this one. How much news have we heard in the last few years about how overpaid Clay Matthews and Randall Cobb are? I don't see either of those players rushing into the Packer front office and demanding a salary reduction to meet their new market value.

The Packers could keep AR in Green and Gold for another 4 years (without redoing his current contract) which maybe all he has left in him, they won't, but they could and he should know that.

Great post and really something to step back and think about before throwing all that $$$$ at AR

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers indicated last offseason that he was unhappy with not being one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league anymore during an interview with Jason Wilde.

While it might not be necessary to extend Rodgers before the start of this season I understand the team wanting to keep the franchise quarterback satisfied, especially after putting themselves in a corner by repeatedly mentioning being interested in getting it done this offseason.

I also think a lot of this perceived "unhappiness" is overblown by fans and the media, as well as probably being played up a bit by Aaron. I haven't heard any talk of AR holding out and not playing, no talks of "pay me or trade me" and I don't foresee his desire and willingness to put it all out there taper off. Of course AR wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL and he probably deserves it. However, he is a pretty smart guy and he no doubt understands the business end of things. He is on the underpaid side of a long term contract with 2 years left on it, but he also just suffered a pretty significant injury.

 

[Heyjoe4]

There’s a lot we don’t know. If ARod and his agent are looking for 20% of the cap, well, that’s a lot even for the best player in football. Nice to have the best player in football on our team, but maybe not so good when it comes to resigning guys they’d like to keep. What is the cap this year? Let’s say $180 mil. 15% is $27 mil and Garropolo and Ryan are each getting more than that, although with signing/workout bonuses and other incentive clauses it’s hard to make direct comparisons. He should be the highest paid player in football. The talk about Brady taking a cut to help the team sounds kinda suspect to me. Before all this % of cap talk started, I was thinking he’d get $32 mil/year for 5 years, $160 mil total, $110 mil guaranteed. That would put him a few mil ahead of Ryan. But that probably gets somewhere close to 17 or 18% of cap. It’s ARod. Pay the man.

 

[sschind]

There’s a lot we don’t know. If ARod and his agent are looking for 20% of the cap, well, that’s a lot even for the best player in football. Nice to have the best player in football on our team, but maybe not so good when it comes to resigning guys they’d like to keep. What is the cap this year? Let’s say $180 mil. 15% is $27 mil and Garropolo and Ryan are each getting more than that, although with signing/workout bonuses and other incentive clauses it’s hard to make direct comparisons. He should be the highest paid player in football. The talk about Brady taking a cut to help the team sounds kinda suspect to me. Before all this % of cap talk started, I was thinking he’d get $32 mil/year for 5 years, $160 mil total, $110 mil guaranteed. That would put him a few mil ahead of Ryan. But that probably gets somewhere close to 17 or 18% of cap. It’s ARod. Pay the man.

where did the 20% of the cap stuff come from. I'd heard "a percentage of the cap" but not specifically 20% and Rodgers says it didn't come from his camp

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I also think a lot of this perceived "unhappiness" is overblown by fans and the media, as well as probably being played up a bit by Aaron. I haven't heard any talk of AR holding out and not playing, no talks of "pay me or trade me" and I don't foresee his desire and willingness to put it all out there taper off. Of course AR wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL and he probably deserves it. However, he is a pretty smart guy and he no doubt understands the business end of things. He is on the underpaid side of a long term contract with 2 years left on it, but he also just suffered a pretty significant injury.

While Rodgers might understand the business side of playing in the NFL that doesn't mean there's no animosity building up against the Packers new front office, especially after they made it clear that extending him was a top priority this offseason.

I don't expect #12 to hold out or ask for a trade but it could affect his performance on the field.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

What is the cap this year?

The salary cap was set at $177.2 million for this season. With the Packers having rolled over $3.9 million from last year they have $181.1 million to work with in 2018.

Currently they have $10.8 million of cap space available.

 

[HardRightEdge]

...especially after they made it clear that extending [Rodgers] was a top priority this offseason.

The word being used by senior management was "soon".

Mark Murphy, June 30: "We hope to soon have a contract extension." And that word "soon" has been tossed around a couple of times since the end of the season

How that word is defined is unclear with the vagueness being intentional, first without serious numbers yet discussed and then evidently without serious numbers appproaching a place of comfortability up to this point.

Projecting "this offseason" into that word "soon" is just that, a projection by outsiders. Ian Rappaport used that phrase "top priority this offseason" back on December 30. While he's been pretty reliable in his inside reports, with more hits than misses, I don't recall the Packers hiring him.

Of course, it's no leap to think that extending Rodgers would be a top priority, without any principal saying as much, before any numbers getting tossed around. Once the numbers start flying, that vague "soon" can take on a different tilt.

Murphy is going to make this call, not Gutekunst, not Ball, not McCarthy, though he certainly will be taking input from those three reports in his current capacity as uber-GM.

I would ignore any commentary from anybody on the timing of this issue not coming from Murphy's mouth. Money decisions of this magnitude go right to the top.

Frankly, the only way I see this thing working if the Packers expect to build a bona fide Super Bowl contender over the next two years is if they wipe out the last 2 years of the current deal, sign him to a new 6 or 7 year deal with a massive signing bonus. Then Murphy has to come up with the cash and assume the risk of a QB into his 40's who is coming off a major injury on his throwing side, while the CBA renegotiation is looming after 2020.

Conversely, Rodgers might not like that approach since he may end up being "underpaid" again in a few years, thus the chatter about some kind of % of cap deal if that's even allowed under the CBA.

There's nothing simple or easy about any of this.