Rasul Douglas has been traded to the Bills

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The more I think about it I'm wondering if they traded him just for being vocal if that's the case it really sucks
Unlikely, however is Gute and Lefluff are that stupid then we not going to be winning much as long as they hold the rains.

Stop drafting Sheep and start drafting Wolf's. Clearly this team locks Attitude, testosterone, will, focus, desire and leadership.

But perfectly resembles the dominor of Gute and Lefluff. Tragic.
 

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I’m not sure how I feel about that deal. On the surface the cap space and getting a third seems nice. And if we’re being honest players of his age… he’s not going to be around by the time this rebuild is likely complete.

But that said giving up a 5th basically means we’re netting a 4th more or less. For a team that is seemingly absolutely devoid of leadership I’m not sure that’s a great return to give up a decent leader/locker room guy like Douglas.
Saving the money is what they are doing but the underlying reason now is that Gute knows we are going nowhere this season. In that case we sell but do not buy.
 

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Given the long string of worthless 3rd round picks, this trade makes no sense. Does anyone really trust Gute not to waste the pick? The reality is they gave up a quality corner for virtually nothing since they have no competence in drafting third rounders. My take is that the Packers are tossing the season and hope they get the first pick in the draft. It sheds light on what they think of Love. Ala Bust!
The third round pick will cost a lot less. And we will have more youth and inexperience. And we will have more of what we see this year.
 

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I'd rather have Rasul than a 3rd round pick for the FO to waste on a bust.

He's one of the consistent players and shame to have traded him.
 

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If JA can get back to form which we have to assume he will and the only reason he is slucking is because he smart enough to see this team not going anywhere so he decided to take a year off.

I agree with what Tausch said on the radio. I think JA is playing hurt. He seems to be lacking some flexibility in the hips and is missing some burst. His back is probably not 100%. Probably more like 80%. But maybe time to let him get to 100%.
 

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The third round pick will cost a lot less. And we will have more youth and inexperience. And we will have more of what we see this year.
You do understand that everyone currently on the team will have a year more experience next year, right?
 

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You do understand that everyone currently on the team will have a year more experience next year, right?
The problem with their additional year of experience is that there is little evidence to suggest players are improving. The lack of coaching means 2023 is an empty year.
 

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Interesting comment from Pat Kerwin NFL about draft picks; only about 60% of draft picks actually pan out over the years. Thought it might be higher than that.... Packers have now "packed it in" for this year. Are they hoping for top 10 pick this year and possibly 5 in top 100? At 60% success rate that means 3 of 5 will actually be major contributors to a team. oh well, only 10 more games to go to see where they pick in the draft. Surprise was Bears going out to get a lineman for a draft pick, but they do have 13 draft picks 2024 so they could get someone pretty good who will help them in the future and strengthen their D.....

Depends on definition of “pan out” but I’d say far less than that are still on the team that drafted them four years later.
 

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The problem with their additional year of experience is that there is little evidence to suggest players are improving. The lack of coaching means 2023 is an empty year.

watch more than the highlights and if we lose. While minimal at times there are some youngsters thrust into massive roles progressing.
 

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Good trade but No to drafting CB in 1-2-3 rounds.
We need LT and C in 1rst.
If JA can get back to form which we have to assume he will and the only reason he is slucking is because he smart enough to see this team not going anywhere so he decided to take a year off.

Then there is Stokes. No reason to give up on him yet. Let's see what the man does rest of this year and in 2024.

It is highly unlikely that we will be in contention next year either, especially if Lafleur is back as HC in which case we dont need to draft CB in 2024 in early rounds even if Stokes and JA turn out to be duds. That can wait untill 2025.

We need 2 and maybe 3 solid O-leneman. That should be a #1 priority

Just because it’s high on probability doesn’t mean it happens. You use three CBs A TON in the modern NFL and right now our diva Jaire and Stokes both cannot stay on field and Nixon is very unproven and not an amazing slot.

I would love to see two OL in our first four picks and drafting a high level DB however like OL would fit need, and positional value as well
 

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Trading Rasul despite having probably the weakest collection of CB's/S's in the NFL they are likely already in the top 4 2024 draft picks. 13 or 14 losses is very doable now.

The only positive is if this is...

More draft capital for new GM/HC Jim Harbaugh. Murphy needs the picks to lure Harbaugh. Harbaugh could be like Jimmy Johnson when he took over the Cowboys. He knows these next 3-to-4 draft classes inside out. He'd have the 2024 picks to draft the elite QB prospect he wants.

I trust Harbaugh to mold a QB prospect, Harbaugh knows first hand what he's talking about when teaching a QB.

Do you think Rashan Gary would love playing for Harbaugh again? I do.

Murphy could actually retire a hero. Come on Murphy, do it! Get Harbaugh!
 
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You do understand that everyone currently on the team will have a year more experience next year, right?
We hope. Of course there is a possibility they get better. But there is no guarantee. Finley comes to mind as someone who was a klutz in 2008. In 2009 he exploded. I am not so sure I see the natural talent. And the only 2 on the roster that have a shot at the Pro Bowl are Rashan Gary and Kenny Clark. I see rookies with Detroit and Minnesota making tremendous impact. I don't see it here. We still need to get some in free agency next year. Thompson got Woodson, Al Harris, and Peppers when they still had something in the tank. Wolf still hit the jackpot: Reggie, Santana Dotson, Gilbert Brown, Sean Jones, Eugene Robinson, Don Beebe, and Desmond Howard. Maybe we can sign one or two minor impact players next year and it will give us some leadership for these kids.
 
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This actual pains me. Very few times don’t say that about a player. I feel like I lost a friend. Rasul was/is such an exciting player. I’ll never forget how we picked him up mid season and that Arizona game. He was highlight reels all year.

Will miss you Rasul, you were a perfect fit when we needed you most.
Best wishes to our Packer CB2

Go knock out the Jets Bro :tup:
 

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Folks truthfully spinning Rasul into a 3rd is a lot, but HE IS for sure worth it. That is a lot of cap space freed up as well next season too PLUS puts CB in the first two days of the draft quite high on the list of probability.
I like the trade. They actually gained a late round 3rd for an early round 5th. So I am not quite as excited as you. Now maybe if a different GM was making the 3rd round pick.
 

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It pretty much tanks this season. Without Stokes and a banged up Alexander teams no longer have to establish the run game. Just throw and throw and come the 4th quarter hand the ball off and run out the clock.
Opponents will still run against that poor run defense.
 

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You do understand that everyone currently on the team will have a year more experience next year, right?
I hope you are correct. I am finding it hard to find many players that have a year more experience this year than last year that are actually playing better this year than last year.
 
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I hope you are correct. I am finding it hard to find many players that have a year more experience this year than last year that are actually playing better this year than last year.
Keep in mind that we have quite a few Rookies after drafting a large pool which will be 2nd year players. We also have quite a few 2nd year players involved that will be in their 3rd season. For me It’s that 3rd year that players begin to see things more clearly. We’ve seen evidence of that repeatedly throughout our own team going back years. That’s 2024,2025

Yes we will still be a very young team next season. But nowhere as raw as we are now.
 
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I will say Gute might have in a way broken the curse. He brought Rasul in on a cheap deal, used him for 2 years, then turned him into a 3rd Rounder and got change back. If my math is correct we just got 2 years usage out of Rasul for a few million. We also clear nearly +$3m off the books over 2023-2024.

Another way to look at it is the NET effect. It’s like getting a 2024 ~#100-105 overall draft pick straight up . Plus while he has Sunk$ it still freed up space both now and next year.

I’ve got this sneaking suspicion we’re eyeballing Kool Aid next draft just my gut because it’s a position we love and now overlaps our need and draft area.
 
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I don't like the trade. Douglas has played at least the level of a 2nd round pick for us and we are only getting a late 3rd and giving up an early 5th. Don't like it at all. Maybe it's because he really wants to play press coverage and that does not go well with our 3rd down tactics.
 

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Opponents will still run against that poor run defense.
They can if that is their strength. But you saw in the Viking game that we actually played the run pretty well. They no longer have a Dalvin Cook. But if you are a team with a quality QB and receivers and can pass protect you go for the jugular early. One time in 1967 Lombardi, who loved to run the football, told his QBs after watching film of the Steelers that " We should throw 10 or 15 fly patterns against this team. They can't cover! "
 

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LaFleur has got to go. Not inspirational and play calling should be ripped from his duties at least.
Problem is finding a replacement yet now Josh Daniels is available from Oakland. Maybe he can bring the disgruntled Adams back with him.
 

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Oh and btw I dislike losing Rasul Douglas, the best most consistent defensive back we have along with Quay Walker.
 

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watch more than the highlights and if we lose. While minimal at times there are some youngsters thrust into massive roles progressing.
Other than Reed, who is is showing an improving performance? LVN looks lost so far. Wyatt could be called a bust so far. While Walker makes lots of tackles, like AJ Hawk, they're too far from the LOS. Watson and Musgrave are struggling. Stokes can't stay healthy. Is Love getting better as the season progresses? You get my drift, the young core isn't showing progress.
 

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I like the trade. They actually gained a late round 3rd for an early round 5th. So I am not quite as excited as you. Now maybe if a different GM was making the 3rd round pick.

The curse of the third is alive and well still....
 

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