Raiders cut Jordy

[Do7]

First of all I love Jordy Nelson but the Packers aren't a soon-to-be 34-year old receiver away from being a legit Super Bowl contender.

While he might put up better numbers than any of the young receivers currently on the roster in 2019 he wouldn't make the team that much better justifying to bring him back.

The concept is winning. And if Jordy helps increases our chances of winning, by proving to be a better option at the receiver position, by beating out his competition I don't see how you reached your conclusion. Plus the fact that he has proven to be a great locker room guy, and could serve as a mentor to other receivers as they grow into their own. That's a win-win if you ask me. Plus he has great chemistry with our QB.

If a 34 year old man proves to be a better option than a majority of our current squad then that's saying how pitiful we are at the receiving position. If our current receivers are better, they will prove it by beating him out. That's what competition is for.

Again the concept is winning, and for that reason alone, all alternatives should be considered. Now if you say we draft a top receiver in the draft, then you would have me, other than that if you have a better suggestion, I'm all ears.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The concept is winning. And if Jordy helps increases our chances of winning, by proving to be a better option at the receiver position, by beating out his competition I don't see how you reached your conclusion. Plus the fact that he has proven to be a great locker room guy, and could serve as a mentor to other receivers as they grow into their own. That's a win-win if you ask me. Plus he has great chemistry with our QB.

If a 34 year old man proves to be a better option than a majority of our current squad then that's saying how pitiful we are at the receiving position. If our current receivers are better, they will prove it by beating him out. That's what competition is for.

Again the concept is winning, and for that reason alone, all alternatives should be considered. Now if you say we draft a top receiver in the draft, then you would have me, other than that if you have a better suggestion, I'm all ears.

Once again, I agree the Packers need a slot receiver either through free agency or an early draft pick.

Nelson is primarily an outside receiver and in addition wouldn't significantly improve the team's chances of winning.

 

[Spanky]

Once again, I agree the Packers need a slot receiver either through free agency or an early draft pick.

Nelson is primarily an outside receiver and in addition wouldn't significantly improve the team's chances of winning.

Larry Fitzgerald was primarily an outside receiver until he got older and moved to the slot. And he has played well there.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Larry Fitzgerald was primarily an outside receiver until he got older and moved to the slot. And he has played well there.

True. That doesn't mean Nelson would excel primarily lining up in the slot though.

 

[C-Lee]

Visiting the Seahawks tomorrow. Pats, Titans, and Chiefs are interested as well.

 

[DarkHelmet]

Visiting the Seahawks tomorrow. Pats, Titans, and Chiefs are interested as well.

Not the Seahawks! It would kill me to see him in those horrible colors lining up against the Pack. Ugh!

 

[DarkHelmet]

I'll circle back to the beginning of the thread. Letting Jordy go was a mistake. He's the favorite receiver of your Hall of Fame quarterback. Getting him back to compete for spot is a no-brainer in my opinion. I believe strongly he would be more productive this year than Stonehands Moore, NotActuallyaReceiver Davis, Alwayshurt Cobb, and Waypastit Graham.

Allison, if healthy, is probably our number 2 though MVS could push him for it. EQ has potential, but may or may not realize it.

Of those three, my odds are:

Allison: 50/50 that Jordy outperforms
MVS: 50/50 that Jordy outperforms
EQ: 60/40 that Jordy outperforms

Then there Kumerow. Wild card. If he takes another step, who knows?

Still I like Jordy to beat out 2-3 receivers currently on the depth chart.

 

[Stanger37]

Visiting the Seahawks tomorrow. Pats, Titans, and Chiefs are interested as well.

I hope he goes to the Pats and wins another SB or two.

 

[Do7]

I hope he goes to the Pats and wins another SB or two.

If he joins The Pats I'll be sick to my stomach.

 

[Stanger37]

If he joins The Pats I'll be sick to my stomach.

I wouldn't be thrilled, because I think he can add value to the Packers. But better than the Seahawks because they're just a team I don't like at all. Titans he would just disappear into the abyss of that offense. Chiefs would be meh.

I want him to go on and win and be productive. He deserves another SB, innocent bystander of this team getting complacent on Rodgers.

And I want him to be productive for the fact that I advocated him coming here and I want to tell people I (we) were right. Haha.

 

[Do7]

I wouldn't be thrilled, because I think he can add value to the Packers. But better than the Seahawks because they're just a team I don't like at all. Titans he would just disappear into the abyss of that offense. Chiefs would be meh.

I want him to go on and win and be productive. He deserves another SB, innocent bystander of this team getting complacent on Rodgers.

And I want him to be productive for the fact that I advocated him coming here and I want to tell people I (we) were right. Haha.

Oh make no mistake I'll be cheering for him because like you I think he can contribute to the team, but it's a case of is my love for Jordy greater than my dislike for New England. I certainly would be happy if he won another ring there, but that would make me sick knowing that Brady won his 7th ring. He's already in untouchable right now. Can you imagine a 7th?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I'll circle back to the beginning of the thread. Letting Jordy go was a mistake. He's the favorite receiver of your Hall of Fame quarterback. Getting him back to compete for spot is a no-brainer in my opinion.

Once again, bringing back players based on sentimental reasons that weren't good enough to be retained at some point is a terrible way to build a roster.

 

[BrokenArrow]

The concept is winning. And if Jordy helps increases our chances of winning, by proving to be a better option at the receiver position, by beating out his competition I don't see how you reached your conclusion. Plus the fact that he has proven to be a great locker room guy, and could serve as a mentor to other receivers as they grow into their own. That's a win-win if you ask me. Plus he has great chemistry with our QB.

It's not happening. Get over it. If he signs with the Packers this year, it will be for 1 day.

 

[DarkHelmet]

Once again, bringing back players based on sentimental reasons that weren't good enough to be retained at some point is a terrible way to build a roster.

I'm sentimental about winning games. When Rodgers was throwing passes to Jordy we were winning more games than we were losing. Last season when Rodgers was throwing passes to a receiving corps that didn't include Jordy we lost more than we won. Just an observation -- not rocket science -- but indisputable.

As for "not good enough to be retained" well, I'd say the front office simply decided they didn't want to pay him. I thought that was a mistake at the time, and I'm even more certain of it now. I believe the Packers would have been a better team last year with Jordy than they were without him.

Finally, I wouldn't discount the importance of 'sentiment' for Rodgers which may also may be described as 'chemistry.' Why was Rodgers so far below his usual standard last season? Maybe because the suits took his favorite receiver away? The one guy -- apart from Adams -- he could count on to be in the right place and catch the frickin' ball?

There are other factors, too, of course. The O-line was weak, Rodgers was not 100% physically and the play calling/coaching relationship was clearly a mess. But over his career Rodgers has been better when Jordy was on the field.

Can Jordy still play at a high level? I don't know, but I'd like to find out. I DON'T want to find out by watching him catch ten touchdowns from Russell Wilson or Tom Brady.

 

[Do7]

It's not happening. Get over it. If he signs with the Packers this year, it will be for 1 day.

I feel like you're trying to tell me something here.

 

[longtimefan]

I feel like you're trying to tell me something here.

Yes and so am I..


This crap is spilling into other threads..

You and @captainWIMM need to stop. Do it in ***.. Neither of you are changing the others mind.

LET IT GO

 

[XPack]

Yes and so am I..


This crap is spilling into other threads..

You and @captainWIMM need to stop. Do it in ***.. Neither of you are changing the others mind.

LET IT GO

Well...perhaps we could move the Jordy and Breeland threads to other NFL teams forum?

 

[Do7]

Yes and so am I..


This crap is spilling into other threads..

You and @captainWIMM need to stop. Do it in ***.. Neither of you are changing the others mind.

LET IT GO

Ouch longtimefan. That hurts coming from you dude. It's not like the two of us are insulting one another, and it's not like we're the only two arguing about this matter. I'm not saying this about you or any of the moderators, but because of how advocant I am in regards to keeping either Jordy or Cobb, it's easy for me being a target. I don't recall saying anything offensive or anything of the matter, and if I did by some chance I apologize. For the most part this is a subject of debate, and I'm on one side of the fence, while Captain is on the opposite. It's all in good fun. I deleted my post just now out of respect because I was asked to stop, but I don't see what the issue is.

 

[longtimefan]

Well...perhaps we could move the Jordy and Breeland threads to other NFL teams forum?

Why? There was a Jordy thread then it spilled into Cobb..

And b4 it's said. Yes every thread can be morphed into other talk..

The main issue it's getting to be 5 pages of, Jordy is still good. . No Jordy isn't good.

 

[longtimefan]

Ouch longtimefan. That hurts coming from you dude. It's not like the two of us are insulting one another, and it's not like we're the only two arguing about this matter. I'm not saying this about you or any of the moderators, but because of how advocant I am in regards to keeping either Jordy or Cobb, it's easy for me being a target. I don't recall saying anything offensive or anything of the matter, and if I did by some chance I apologize. For the most part this is a subject of debate, and I'm on one side of the fence, while Captain is on the opposite. It's all in good fun. I deleted my post just now out of respect because I was asked to stop, but I don't see what the issue is.

Never said insulting.

But at some point it has to stop.. Lot of us here want to change minds.. But sometimes it won't happen

 

[Do7]

Never said insulting.

But at some point it has to stop.. Lot of us here want to change minds.. But sometimes it won't happen

I know you didn't say anything insulting buddy. It just sucked hearing it from you is all. No biggie dude. I think I've dragged this out long enough from where I stand. I'll stop.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I'm sentimental about winning games. When Rodgers was throwing passes to Jordy we were winning more games than we were losing. Last season when Rodgers was throwing passes to a receiving corps that didn't include Jordy we lost more than we won. Just an observation -- not rocket science -- but indisputable.

As for "not good enough to be retained" well, I'd say the front office simply decided they didn't want to pay him. I thought that was a mistake at the time, and I'm even more certain of it now. I believe the Packers would have been a better team last year with Jordy than they were without him.

Rodgers was winning more games with Lang and Sitton lining up at both guard spots as well but that doesn't make it a good idea to bring back either of them.

In addition you have to realize that the Packers would have had to release another player to keep Nelson last season for salary cap reasons.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I was going to let this thing go when Janis brought it up, but I don't think Allison had a better season than Cobb, especially when Cobb played in almost double the games Allison did. Cobb finished with a slight better season. Granted he played in more games, but simply because an individual starts out pretty well in a race doesn't mean they won because of where they stopped at, when the opposing racer managed to go farther before stopping. So going back to what you said regarding Allison having better than Nelson, interesting you say he was more productive when he played in only 5 games as to Jordy who played an entire season. I didn't ignore it, that was just a weak argument. Jordy had a better season than Allison, it's ignorant to say otherwise.

So you're telling me that Nelson had an absolutely terrible season in 2015???

 

[Do7]

So you're telling me that Nelson had an absolutely terrible season in 2015???

Jordy didn't play in 2015. That's when he tore his acl.

If you're trying to make a comparison to him and Allison that's a bad example. And besides no one said anything about an individual having a terrible season. Certainly I didn't. Looks. It's clear we're on the opposite side of the fence here regarding this. Let's stop while we're ahead. @longtimefan asked us both to stop. Anything else, take it with me in PM.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Jordy didn't play in 2015. That's when he tore his acl.

Well, you were the one holding Allison getting hurt after five games last season against him. Shouldn't the same apply to Nelson in 2015 then???

If you're trying to make a comparison to him and Allison that's a bad example. And besides no one said anything about an individual having a terrible season. Certainly I didn't. Looks. It's clear we're on the opposite side of the fence here regarding this. Let's stop while we're ahead. @longtimefan asked us both to stop. Anything else, take it with me in PM.

I don't have any interest in discussing the topic with you via *** as there should be no reason to not be allowed to discuss about Nelson in this thread.