Packers and Aaron Rodgers agree on 3 yr 150 mill

[Mondio]

Did I say he wa a bad ?? I swear people twist things

i said he has a pattern of those people close to him break ties with him. We don't know why tho

To answer your question
oliva munn just had a baby with the bf she has been with since Aaron

danica was married for 7 years. Then before Aaron, was with a guy for 5 . So history shows she has has had long term things

I wasn't trying to imply you said he was bad person, but it was in response to someone saying those things don't really point to him having "questionable moral fiber" and the previous poster to that in which he was called a "dismal human being"

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Where did I say terrible? Amazes me the words that get so twisted by some

Let's go on

i can see your point and agree

but he doesn't talk to his parents and brother ( could be any number of reasons why)

now 2 break ups ( one where they committed to 25 mill house) and possibly a third where he was engaged

again could be any number of reasons and doesn't mean he is bad at all. It's a pattern TO ME
You don't have it agree

You asked for proof and that is what I can lend

Agree. Not sure why people are equating questioning his commitments and relationships with calling him a bad person. I normally wouldn't care about off the field commitments, but when your highly paid star QB waffles twice in 9 months about committing to the Packers or the NFL in general, it should make fans wonder WTF is up with him and take note. Just my opinion, but he seems to like to be the most important guy in the room and if he isn't, he is offended. His latest relationship with Shailene took a ding when reportedly he felt she was hanging out with too many men and spending too much time away due to her work. hmmm...same thing he does?

I understand overlooking his relationships with his family and GF's, but when you see a pattern forming and it effects his relationship with the Packers and his teammates, hiding behind "he's a great player, I don't care what he does off the field" is a bit naïve of the big picture.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Did I say he wa a bad ?? I swear people twist things

i said he has a pattern of those people close to him break ties with him. We don't know why tho

To answer your question
oliva munn just had a baby with the bf she has been with since Aaron

danica was married for 7 years. Then before Aaron, was with a guy for 5 . So history shows she has has had long term things

I asked for evidence that he was a “dismal human being”; i used terrible as a synonym. Opinion isn’t generally considered evidence and that’s kind of what i was getting at.

There are many people that don’t talk to their parents/siblings for myriad reasons. Opinions are like ***holes, and are generally as helpful in upholding a point.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Agree. Not sure why people are equating questioning his commitments and relationships with calling him a bad person. I normally wouldn't care about off the field commitments, but when your highly paid star QB waffles twice in 9 months about committing to the Packers or the NFL in general, it should make fans wonder WTF is up with him and take note. Just my opinion, but he seems to like to be the most important guy in the room and if he isn't, he is offended. His latest relationship with Shailene took a ding when reportedly he felt she was hanging out with too many men and spending too much time away due to her work. hmmm...same thing he does?

I understand overlooking his relationships with his family and GF's, but when you see a pattern forming and it effects his relationship with the Packers and his teammates, hiding behind "he's a great player, I don't care what he does off the field" is a bit naïve of the big picture.

Which teammates have been affected by his behavior? Also, only in sports is it some kind of personal issue when the employee isn’t in love with his employer.

Lots of assumptions being made.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Lots of assumptions being made.

Yes, on both sides of the discussion.

None of us know exactly what his teammates and coaches are thinking. All we can do is equate our own life experiences with what is going on with Rodgers. I can say with 100% confidence, I would have a hard time working with a guy like Rodgers. You and others might be different, that doesn't make either of us right or wrong on how it effects his teammates and coaches. My guess, its a mix bag from all 90+ of them.

Also, only in sports is it some kind of personal issue when the employee isn’t in love with his employer.

I would disagree with this statement. I can think of several situations that I have been in that fellow employees hated our boss and it effected their work.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I would really appreciate some evidence of this. He’s done some things i disagree with but I’m unaware of things he’s done to question his moral fiber. I’m not claiming you’re wrong, just asking for examples/evidence for such a strong claim.

First of all Sunshine, "dismal human being" was too strong. I don't care for his attitude which to me smacks of arrogance - and that is just my opinion. Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. Wrong choice of words.

What I don't like though is the way he kept the Packers and the fans guessing what he was going to do last year, right up to his appearance at TC. He may have been angry with the Love pick and Gluten's poor communication with him, but it doesn't justify his actions. He acted childish.

And he did lie when he led all of us to believe he was vaccinated for Covid when he wasn't. That destroys trust, especially in a figure in the public eye.

He marches to his own drummer, as is his right. I'll certainly miss his play as a QB when he leaves. I won't miss him as a person. (But hey, at least he hasn't gone to play for the Vikings! Well, not yet......... )

Thanks again for pointing out that my words were too strong.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Did I say he wa a bad ?? I swear people twist things

i said he has a pattern of those people close to him break ties with him. We don't know why tho

To answer your question
oliva munn just had a baby with the bf she has been with since Aaron

danica was married for 7 years. Then before Aaron, was with a guy for 5 . So history shows she has has had long term things

We can only form opinions based on what we see. Personally, I don't like Rodgers. He lied to everyone about Covid, breaking the trust he demands from his teammates. That's hypocritical.

As for his relationships, we only know what we see and what we hear. He's gone through three public and now-ended relationships, and he is reported to be estranged from his family. As I said elsewhere, he marches to his own drummer. So love the guy as GB's QB. As for the person, not so much. It's not right for me to judge him, but public people, right or wrong, are held to a higher standard. Probably best for me to leave it at that.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Yes, on both sides of the discussion.

None of us know exactly what his teammates and coaches are thinking. All we can do is equate our own life experiences with what is going on with Rodgers. I can say with 100% confidence, I would have a hard time working with a guy like Rodgers. You and others might be different, that doesn't make either of us right or wrong on how it effects his teammates and coaches. My guess, its a mix bag from all 90+ of them.


I would disagree with this statement. I can think of several situations that I have been in that fellow employees hated our boss and it effected their work.

That's well said Poker - I'd have a hard time working with someone like Rodgers. And I've only been in a few situations in my career where I couldn't stand my boss. It happens. Thankfully for me it was rare.

 

[OldSchool101]

It was foreseeable for almost everybody that Love wasn't going to play any meaningful snaps for all of his rookie deal.

I don’t believe that and if we could get our personnel group together to answer that question I’m about 92.5% sure you are wrong.
Although maybe you are not talking about the Packers as a company idk.

I'm convinced most Packers fans who can't wait to get rid of Rodgers for whatever ridiculous reason would like to have him back

I think that many Fans will stick to their position once Rodgers is gone. Great athlete, non appealing as a leader.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I haven't seen anyone online or in this forum go anywhere near comparing Rodgers to Watson, but nice try Cap. He has shown up for OTA's in the past, but for some reason he has decided that he doesn't need them anymore. Last year, seems his whole WR group decided to follow suit in support of him and didn't show up. Meanwhile, keep an eye on other teams and who shows up for their OTA's. Yes, they are voluntary, but there is a reason the team incentivizes them for players with bonuses for showing up, the team would like to see them attend. The OTA's are all about building team chemistry and beginning to get in synch with new players during all the non-contact drills. As new players join the Packers, I can see a bigger divide between them and the almighty Rodgers forming. The younger guys, hoping to get their first glimpse of him when he eventually is contractually required to show up.

Good points Poker. Cap was clearly joking comparing Rodgers to Watson.

I'd like him to show up for all team activities, especially this year and for the reasons you cite. And geez they just paid the guy $50 mil a year to win a SB.

Just because I expect him to show up doesn't mean he will. Let's just say that knowing Rodgers, I won't be surprised either way. I do agree it would send a strong message of team support if he shows up for all team activities. And he doesn't have a serious risk of injury at OTAs. It gives him a chance to meet the new guys, especially the WRs. It just would be good to see.

 

[Heyjoe4]

You also don't seem to want to acknowledge that it wasn't as foreseeable 2 years ago, as you want to make it sound. The guy just contemplated retirement, sitting out a season or forcing a trade....twice in the last 9 months, that doesn't even take into consideration his age and his 2 seasons before Love.

As I have said countless times, two years later, it looks like Rodgers has decided to keep playing, has won back to back MVP's and he just redid his contract that otherwise would have expired before Love's did. I agree with the opinion that as of today April 13th, 2022, the Love pick may not have been necessary, but until his time is up in Green Bay, the jury shouldn't be so quick to make their final decision.

I get it Poker. Josh Jackson failed and is done. Love, in theory, could still become a starting NFL QB (I doubt it, but there's a possibility).

Cap and many others, including me, are critical of the Love pick itself, and that's a separate issue. Gluten apparently saw an aging Rodgers in decline. After two consecutive MVPs, he couldn't have been more wrong.

Rodgers did have a mediocre season just before the Love pick, at least by his standards. A lot of that was due to the toxic environment that existed under MM. So maybe Love has a career in the NFL. It was still a lousy pick IMO. Gluten, more than anyone, should have seen that Rodgers had a lot of gas left in the tank.

For the most part, a lot of things have been corrected. As for Love, this is the third year (I think) on his rookie deal. Absent better choices at backup, keep him. I doubt he is in GB for more than a year.

 

[Mondio]

We can only form opinions based on what we see. Personally, I don't like Rodgers. He lied to everyone about Covid, breaking the trust he demands from his teammates. That's hypocritical.

except he didn't. That's what none of you seem to get. He didn't owe any of us or that reporter an answer. Medical history is not something you get to just know because you asked. For some people they don't care, they'll gladly tell you their entire history and wear all their psych medications like a badge of courage. For others it's personal and most people used to respect that.

Everyone has things they would not answer fully because you, me, and everyone doesn't believe it should be public knowledge. whether it be about a past job, something you did as a teen, who you used to date, a prior marriage, a hobby you enjoy that others would just tease about etc. we all have stuff that is private.

But as for lying to his teammates? Every single person in that building on the team and staff knew his status and so did the league. So, for everyone that needed to know, did. The rest? why are so upset you didn't get to know stuff you have no business knowing?

 

[Heyjoe4]

except he didn't. That's what none of you seem to get. He didn't owe any of us or that reporter an answer. Medical history is not something you get to just know because you asked. For some people they don't care, they'll gladly tell you their entire history and wear all their psych medications like a badge of courage. For others it's personal and most people used to respect that.

Everyone has things they would not answer fully because you, me, and everyone doesn't believe it should be public knowledge.

But as for lying to his teammates? Every single person in that building on the team and staff knew his status and so did the league. So, for everyone that needed to know, did. The rest? why are so upset you didn't get to know stuff you have no business knowing?

Then he should have said "none of your business" when asked the question about vaccination, or just refused to answer. Instead he lied. That can't be sugarcoated or explained away. And how do you know he told the organization and his teammates. Some proof is in order to back that claim.

But don't bother. He lied to, at a minimum, the fans.

 

[Mondio]

Then he should have said "none of your business" when asked the question about vaccination, or just refused to answer. Instead he lied. That can't be sugarcoated or explained away. And how do you know he told the organization and his teammates. Some proof is in order to back that claim.

because he was in the unvaccinated protocols and tested daily and the org and the league have said multiple times they were aware he didn't get vaccinated and had meetings about it.

again, why be mad about something you have no business knowing?

 

[Heyjoe4]

because he was in the unvaccinated protocols and tested daily and the org and the league have said multiple times they were aware he didn't get vaccinated and had meetings about it.

again, why be mad about something you have no business knowing?

I didn't ask him Mondio. The press asked him. And he lied.

And people who have Covid are a danger to those around them. Rodgers didn't seem to care. I'm guessing his teammates probably did care.

And as for whether we have a need to know about health matters of football players, injury lists are created every week. How is that different? They live in a different world Mondio.

My last comment on this - it just gets back to the fact he lied about being vaccinated. He could have said nothing. He made the wrong choice. Finally, I don't care for liars. That's all from me.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

My last comment on this - it just gets back to the fact he lied about being vaccinated. He could have said nothing. He made the wrong choice. Finally, I don't care for liars. That's all from me.

What is interesting is the fact that there are still people trying to alibi for him about this. When Rodgers himself came right out and acknowledged that what he said was misleading and then he sort of gave a half-hearted apology.

"I made some comments that people might have felt were misleading,” Rodgers said. “To anybody who felt misled by those comments, I take full responsibility for those comments.”

Doesn't absolve him for doing it, but at least he admitted his mistake.

 

[Mondio]

I didn't ask him Mondio. The press asked him. And he lied.

And people who have Covid are a danger to those around them. Rodgers didn't seem to care. I'm guessing his teammates probably did care.

And as for whether we have a need to know about health matters of football players, injury lists are created every week. How is that different? They live in a different world Mondio.

My last comment on this - it just gets back to the fact he lied about being vaccinated. He could have said nothing. He made the wrong choice. Finally, I don't care for liars. That's all from me.

that's fine, i'm sure you've lied plenty in your life with those standards about stuff you just didn't want to talk about with people who had no business knowing. and they didn't say, do you have covid and he said no. That was not the case at all, and every single player in the locker room was capable of contracting and passing. There is no question about that at this point. So who was actually more dangerous, the guys who can get it and pass it getting tested every 2 weeks or the guy who can get it and pass getting tested every single day?

anyway, I don't want this to turn into another covid thread. He couldn't have said nothing, because they would have hounded him even more. they were coming after everybody that wasn't.

and injury lists are by the team and their doctor, you're right it's different. Personal health history is not. If he's operated on by a team doctor, they can tell anything they want. If he goes to a personal physician that doctor can't say anything. Regardless, people should have enough respect to know it's none of their business.

 

[longtimefan]

What is interesting is the fact that there are still people trying to alibi for him about this. When Rodgers himself came right out and acknowledged that what he said was misleading and then he sort of gave a half-hearted apology.

"I made some comments that people might have felt were misleading,” Rodgers said. “To anybody who felt misled by those comments, I take full responsibility for those comments.”

Doesn't absolve him for doing it, but at least he admitted his mistake.

He was even more straightforward later in the interview. “I misled people about my status,” Rodgers said.

 

[Schultz]

You just don't get it. It was foreseeable for almost everybody that Love wasn't going to play any meaningful snaps for all of his rookie deal. That's why I and many others have criticized the pick in the first place.







I'm convinced most Packers fans who can't wait to get rid of Rodgers for whatever ridiculous reason would like to have him back after a maximum of one season the team doesn't feature a HOFer taking snaps under center.



Rodgers not showing up for OTAs should be considered a non-issue. Of course some of you will want to make him look worse than Deshaun Watson because of it

I get your position. I hated the pick also. You are winning the argument. But, just how foreseeable was it last off-season when Rodgers was hinting at holding out or wanting to be traded or retiring. Ditto for this past off season. Zero need for him to be at the volunteer stuff. Let the rooks get acclimated and let Love get the work.

 

[Mondio]

He was even more straightforward later in the interview. “I misled people about my status,” Rodgers said.

He did, to people that had no business knowing in the first place. We all do that at various times in our lives.

Everyone that mattered, knew.

 

[Heyjoe4]

that's fine, i'm sure you've lied plenty in your life with those standards about stuff you just didn't want to talk about with people who had no business knowing. and they didn't say, do you have covid and he said no. That was not the case at all, and every single player in the locker room was capable of contracting and passing. There is no question about that at this point. So who was actually more dangerous, the guys who can get it and pass it getting tested every 2 weeks or the guy who can get it and pass getting tested every single day?

anyway, I don't want this to turn into another covid thread. He couldn't have said nothing, because they would have hounded him even more. they were coming after everybody that wasn't.

and injury lists are by the team and their doctor, you're right it's different. Personal health history is not. If he's operated on by a team doctor, they can tell anything they want. If he goes to a personal physician that doctor can't say anything. Regardless, people should have enough respect to know it's none of their business.

"i'm sure you've lied plenty in your life" - Maybe, but who are you to judge me?

 

[Mondio]

"i'm sure you've lied plenty in your life" - Maybe, but who are you to judge me?

I'm not, I'm saying people need to keep things in perspective. Yeah he mislead you, but you didn't have a right to know in the first place. If he is anything less than 100% transparent and honest about something that is personal to him, people need to realize they've done the same at the very least in their own lives.

It's no different than if some stranger or acquaintance asks, "hey are you going to marry her" and you say, "I don't know" or "haven't thought about it" when in reality you've bought the ring and are waiting for the right time to ask. It's not their place to know and it doesn't make you a bad person for not being 100% transparent.

But for some reason everyone makes this an indictment on Rodgers again when at best they're likely no different in their own lives at various times. If people want to hold others to certain standards, I hope they're living by the same.

 

[OldSchool101]

I'm not, I'm saying people need to keep things in perspective. Yeah he mislead you, but you didn't have a right to know in the first place. If he is anything less than 100% transparent and honest about something that is personal to him, people need to realize they've done the same at the very least in their own lives.

It's no different than if some stranger or acquaintance asks, "hey are you going to marry her" and you say, "I don't know" or "haven't thought about it" when in reality you've bought the ring and are waiting for the right time to ask. It's not their place to know and it doesn't make you a bad person for not being 100% transparent.

But for some reason everyone makes this an indictment on Rodgers again when at best they're likely no different in their own lives at various times. If people want to hold others to certain standards, I hope they're living by the same.

It’s true. It’s true we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

That said, I would offer that Aaron Rodgers is a celebrity and household name. We can naturally expect he’s going to get more criticism and accolades (it works both ways) than the average Joe. So we need not pretend he’s being somehow treated unfairly. He’s in the spotlight and no one is forcing him to be there. He likes it imo.

What’s interesting is many of the crowd of fans and spectators being critical of #12 is not a group that I see routinely goes around condemning people. So, is it possible that a large part of Rodger’s criticism is brought upon by himself?

The great thing is we all make mistakes, so we’re each a specialist on that and the growth that comes from being pruned.

I would like nothing more than to see the man (Aaron) mature and grow and be a good example to others. If he’s not doing that after harsh experiences, then he’s bringing the criticism on himself. So far, that has often been the case. Add to that everything gets embellished because of the media focus.

I’ll finish by saying that Aaron largely controls 75% of the negative media (there’s always some fake stuff). He can rectify that by doing the right thing. I believe some of his actions (or inaction as of late) are promoted by his representation, so he might get bad advice on how to handle his PR situation.
We are joyfully waiting for him to be a HOF person (or at least neutral!)
I doubt anyone wants to deny him of that.

 

[Schultz]

I'm not, I'm saying people need to keep things in perspective. Yeah he mislead you, but you didn't have a right to know in the first place. If he is anything less than 100% transparent and honest about something that is personal to him, people need to realize they've done the same at the very least in their own lives.

It's no different than if some stranger or acquaintance asks, "hey are you going to marry her" and you say, "I don't know" or "haven't thought about it" when in reality you've bought the ring and are waiting for the right time to ask. It's not their place to know and it doesn't make you a bad person for not being 100% transparent.

But for some reason everyone makes this an indictment on Rodgers again when at best they're likely no different in their own lives at various times. If people want to hold others to certain standards, I hope they're living by the same.

Yeah, but what if a stranger asked AR if he was going to marry his girlfriend and a reporter asked me if I was vaccinated?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Yeah, but what if a stranger asked AR if he was going to marry his girlfriend and a reporter asked me if I was vaccinated?

Rodgers isn’t perfect (nobody is) but, when you’re the most important player on fans’ favorite team, there will be those that assume anything short of perfection means you have character flaws. It’s always consoling to be able to point to just one person as the cause of problems cause then the fix is easy, just fix the one player.