Packers and Aaron Rodgers agree on 3 yr 150 mill

[Heyjoe4]

I've morphed over the years. I've always thought he was a great player from about 2010 through 2015 and really liked his demeanor. It was around 2015-2016 that I think he changed as a player. The national media started the mantra that his TD/Int ratio and overall effectiveness made him one of the all time greats. I've always sensed that changed him perhaps personally as well as professionally. I started seeing his stubbornness and slowness to adapt on the field more clearly. Imo, he became a lot less likable after that point. After Love was drafted in 2020, he just became that much harder to like. His overall play has been significantly better the past three seasons than the four seasons prior to Love imo. He still has been unable to make the winning plays in the 4th quarter of tough playoff games. After last season, I'm just ready to move on from him, give Love the chance to take over and rely more on defense, field position and a heavier emphasis on the running game. I'm Rodgers weary I guess.

Pike, that's a good summary of Rodgers from 2010 on.

As they say, around 2015 he started reading bis own press clippings. That was made even more irritating because from 2011 on, he just couldn't carry the team to big playoff wins. He had gaudy stats in all areas but one - big playoff wins. And then to top it off recently, he seemed more concerned with making more money in the NFL than anyone else, rather than being concerned about his team's chances to win a SB. I don't judge him for that, it's human nature to want to get paid as much as possible.

So we'll tee things up for at least one mow season with Rodgers under center. I hope for the sake of the team and the fans they win at least one more SB. But I'm "Rodgers weary" too. That's a good way to explain it. I know I'll miss his play and what he brings to the team. I won't miss his attitude. I won't miss the drama.

And as for his legacy, that belongs more to fans and writers than it does to HOF induction and career stats. As far as I'm concerned, he's a notch above Marino on the lists of best QBs. He's light years away from Tom Brady. Maybe that doesn't bother him and if it does, he can cover himself in all his money and seek solace there.

 

[Heyjoe4]

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Hey longtime I can't play this. Anyone else having this happen? Any workarounds? Thx all.

 

[KiDcUdI]

Exactly, because it is ALL about Rodgers. F the people he may have infected.

You mean all the people already vaccinated in which case it shouldn’t be a problem or the ones who don’t care about the vaccine either in which it shouldn’t be a problem?

 

[longtimefan]

Hey longtime I can't play this. Anyone else having this happen? Any workarounds? Thx all.

It was from fb maybe that's why?

 

[longtimefan]

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[Pokerbrat2000]

IMO
40% of the posters love Rodgers as a player and couldn't care less about anything else.
30% of the posters love Rodgers as a player but do not like him personally.
20% of the posters allow their dislike for Rodgers as a person to effect their perception of him as a player.
10% of the posters change their opinion from game to game.
IMO

Good polling question to ask the forum. I'd be in the 35% group. Love the player, sometimes like the individual, but as of late, some of the things he has done have not sat very well with me. Par for the course, I was like that with Favre. One thing I always did like about Favre was his kid like love for the game of football and I think the Packers too. Most of the crap with him came after he left Green Bay.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ridiculous post. Before around 2018 we never saw posters here display any animous about Rodgers other than the few Favrists who couldn't get over their manlove for Favre.

Agreed. The Rodgers apologists seem to be personally offended when people express their opinions about the guy. Why? I think they see a lot of themselves in him and become defensive when his behaviors are questioned.

 

[Heyjoe4]

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Got it, thanks longtime.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Agreed. The Rodgers apologists seem to be personally offended when people express their opinions about the guy. Why? I think they see a lot of themselves in him and become defensive when his behaviors are questioned.

Question his behavior all you want, i just find it odd to make sweeping proclamations about the humanity/work ethic of a guy most people only know from Twitter blurbs. He’s done things i like and things i don’t agree with, but calling him a bad teammate or a terrible person just strikes me as ridiculous based on information from the sports equivalents of The Enquirer.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Early on, he could have easily held a presser saying why he was pissed, that he either was looking for a trade or for improved communication and made a decision.

I think it was best for him to not say anything in public but work behind the scenes to figure out a way to stay with the Packers.

After last season, I'm just ready to move on from him, give Love the chance to take over and rely more on defense, field position and a heavier emphasis on the running game. I'm Rodgers weary I guess.

It's actually ridiculous to advocate moving on from the two-time defending MVP because you don't like Rodgers despite not having met him in person even once.

The Rodgers apologists seem to be personally offended when people express their opinions about the guy. Why? I think they see a lot of themselves in him and become defensive when his behaviors are questioned.

First of all I highly doubt anyone around here sees anything in himself/herself in Rodgers. In addition I'm glad for you that you don't have any character flaws Rodgers has been accused of having.

 

[Mondio]

In addition I'm glad for you that you don't have any character flaws Rodgers has been accused of having.

I see your sarcasm He's as passive aggressive as they come all over this board. he also confuses his little digs and shots he takes repeatedly at people with an opposing viewpoint as a legitimate "challenge" of that view point. he doesn't quite get that suggesting people read more inane OTA articles that serve nothing more to engage the fans and keep them excited for the upcoming season and suggesting the educate themselves more isn't really challenging someone else's opinion. It's nothing more than his way of trying to insult or take a dig

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Question his behavior all you want, i just find it odd to make sweeping proclamations about the humanity/work ethic of a guy most people only know from Twitter blurbs. He’s done things i like and things i don’t agree with, but calling him a bad teammate or a terrible person just strikes me as ridiculous based on information from the sports equivalents of The Enquirer.

LOL at "sweeping proclamations". If you think discussing opinions on a Packer forum is that, you really over value the content here and you have put me on way too high of a pedestal.

Second, if you think I only garner my knowledge and form my opinions of Rodgers from "Twitter blurbs", you're sadly mistaken and incorrectly trying to discredit myself and other posters.

Third, you make 2 more false accusations with your final sentence. I never called Rodger's a terrible person, nor a bad teammate. I questioned his behavior and stated that one has to wonder how his teammates perceive the guy.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

First of all I highly doubt anyone around here sees anything in himself/herself in Rodgers. In addition I'm glad for you that you don't have any character flaws Rodgers has been accused of having.

I would disagree with your first statement. Go back and look at the discussion on Rodgers being "immunized". There is one Twit on this site that has defended him vehemently over that, even after Rodgers admitted his mistake. Hell, that same poster felt covid was meant to "cull the heard." As far as character flaws, we all have them Cap, but if you or anyone else is offended by discussing Rodgers character flaws in here, then we should stop discussing flaws in coaching, GM and other players.

Let me ask you a simple question. If Rodgers was just another average player, say a backup QB, do you think the Packer organization would put up with him? I don't know your answer, but my answer would be "no". I think he would have been cut a long time ago. Yet, they just made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the age of 38. Why, because his talent is worth putting up with his B.S. for the Packer organization. I think for some of us, the scales finally tipped the other way.

Again, I am not calling him a terrible person or a bad player and I will continue to give him credit for all the Packers success, I'm just not a fan of the way he has conducted himself off the field.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

LOL at "sweeping proclamations". If you think discussing opinions on a Packer forum is that, you really over value the content here and you have put me on way too high of a pedestal.

Second, if you think I only garner my knowledge and form my opinions of Rodgers from "Twitter blurbs", you're sadly mistaken and incorrectly trying to discredit myself and other posters.

Third, you make 2 more false accusations with your final sentence. I never called Rodger's a terrible person, nor a bad teammate. I questioned his behavior and stated that one has to wonder how his teammates perceive the guy.

Twas not directed solely at thee gentle sir. Saying a guy is a bad teammate because of a Greg Jennings interview, with no knowledge of how he interacts with the scores of other teammates he has counts as sweeping, as does making proclamations about his worth as a person.


Again though, i was responding to the idea you brought up, not specifically about YOU holding that one idea.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Twas not directed solely at thee gentle sir. Saying a guy is a bad teammate because of a Greg Jennings interview, with no knowledge of how he interacts with the scores of other teammates he has counts as sweeping, as does making proclamations about his worth as a person.


Again though, i was responding to the idea you brought up, not specifically about YOU holding that one idea.

That is the reply I excepted. I point out where you are incorrect and then you say "twas not directed solely at thee"...thinking that somehow makes what you say correct. If you want to direct your comments "not solely" at me, then I would suggest not quoting me and then saying "you" in your comments.

BTW, I never gave much credit to what Greg Jenning said, so if that was directed to me, again, you better solely direct it elsewhere.

 

[Mondio]

I would disagree with your first statement. Go back and look at the discussion on Rodgers being "immunized". There is one Twit on this site that has defended him vehemently over that, even after Rodgers admitted his mistake. Hell, that same poster felt covid was meant to "cull the heard." As far as character flaws, we all have them Cap, but if you or anyone else is offended by discussing Rodgers character flaws in here, then we should stop discussing flaws in coaching, GM and other players.

Let me ask you a simple question. If Rodgers was just another average player, say a backup QB, do you think the Packer organization would put up with him? I don't know your answer, but my answer would be "no". I think he would have been cut a long time ago. Yet, they just made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the age of 38. Why, because his talent is worth putting up with his B.S. for the Packer organization. I think for some of us, the scales finally tipped the other way.

Again, I am not calling him a terrible person or a bad player and I will continue to give him credit for all the Packers success, I'm just not a fan of the way he has conducted himself off the field.

For someone who's done with me, you sure like to talk about me. You also sure like to misconstrue what I say to make yourself feel better. If you're done, be done. but you can't. You have years of past history to prove it.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I think it was best for him to not say anything in public but work behind the scenes to figure out a way to stay with the Packers.



It's actually ridiculous to advocate moving on from the two-time defending MVP because you don't like Rodgers despite not having met him in person even once.



First of all I highly doubt anyone around here sees anything in himself/herself in Rodgers. In addition I'm glad for you that you don't have any character flaws Rodgers has been accused of having.

"I think it was best for him to not say anything in public but work behind the scenes to figure out a way to stay with the Packers."

I agree, I just wish Rodgers and Gluten had sat down early and cleared the air, like right after the Love draft. It seemed like Rodgers held his anger in and then it just all came out, and through third parties and opinion columns and even this forum.

Gluten made a mistake trading up for Love, and Rodgers had to be pissed right there. He could have picked up the phone and said "Hey Brian WTF are you doing here?" Instead he let it fester, he played an entire season where he earned MVP, and after all that time simmering, it kind of exploded. People do this all the time. They hold grudges inside, stew on em, and then it explodes to no good.

Oh well it seems to have ended well. I'm not complaining about the 39 wins over three years or the two MVPs. I'd like a SB too. The Packers' failure in that regard has plenty of blame and it's not all on Rodgers, not by a long shot.

 

[gopkrs]

Gluten made a mistake trading up for Love

Not going to let you keep getting away with this one. You have a really good fortune teller or something?

 

[Heyjoe4]

Not going to let you keep getting away with this one. You have a really good fortune teller or something?

Getting away with what? This is an opinion forum and I'm entitled to mine as much as you are to yours. If you think Love was a great pick, that's fine. I think it was a terrible pick and if you look at all the trouble that one pick caused, well no, it was a lousy pick by Gluten. Fortunately it was isolated and he's done much better since. (And that's not even accounting for the fact that in a WR-rich draft, Gluten took none, nada, zero.)

I know the argument put forth by people who like the Love pick - it hasn't played out yet. That's true. But how much are you willing to wager that Love will one day become a starting NFL QB and lead a team for many seasons? Eh? I'll take that bet and offer terrific odds. At this point he's barely a #2 backup.

Lousy pick. Period. It's in the past and I'm done commenting on it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm sure a few here will take this as me picking on Rodgers, but I'm not, just thought it was funny. His 2022 season is off to a bad start, as he gets picked off by some youngster during a charity event. Lifetime memory for the kid and he celebrates by giving Rodgers a bit of the business.

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[Schultz]

Getting away with what? This is an opinion forum and I'm entitled to mine as much as you are to yours. If you think Love was a great pick, that's fine. I think it was a terrible pick and if you look at all the trouble that one pick caused, well no, it was a lousy pick by Gluten. Fortunately it was isolated and he's done much better since. (And that's not even accounting for the fact that in a WR-rich draft, Gluten took none, nada, zero.)

I know the argument put forth by people who like the Love pick - it hasn't played out yet. That's true. But how much are you willing to wager that Love will one day become a starting NFL QB and lead a team for many seasons? Eh? I'll take that bet and offer terrific odds. At this point he's barely a #2 backup.

Lousy pick. Period. It's in the past and I'm done commenting on it.

I am going to have to completely disagree with you here. At this point he is one of the top back up QBs in the league.

 

[longtimefan]

I'm sure a few here will take this as me picking on Rodgers, but I'm not, just thought it was funny. His 2022 season is off to a bad start, as he gets picked off by some youngster during a charity event. Lifetime memory for the kid and he celebrates by giving Rodgers a bit of the business.

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Was just going to post it

its either he was having fun or was irritated. But looks bad on his part

 

[rmontro]

its either he was having fun or was irritated. But looks bad on his part

All in fun IMO.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Getting away with what? This is an opinion forum and I'm entitled to mine as much as you are to yours. If you think Love was a great pick, that's fine. I think it was a terrible pick and if you look at all the trouble that one pick caused, well no, it was a lousy pick by Gluten. Fortunately it was isolated and he's done much better since. (And that's not even accounting for the fact that in a WR-rich draft, Gluten took none, nada, zero.)

I know the argument put forth by people who like the Love pick - it hasn't played out yet. That's true. But how much are you willing to wager that Love will one day become a starting NFL QB and lead a team for many seasons? Eh? I'll take that bet and offer terrific odds. At this point he's barely a #2 backup.

Lousy pick. Period. It's in the past and I'm done commenting on it.

I also find it humorous that people are willing to wait the entire rookie contract and repeat the mantra “hasn’t helped yet but just you wait….”

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Was just going to post it

its either he was having fun or was irritated. But looks bad on his part

I think a little of both.

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