official Jimmy Graham signed

[NJPackersfan32]

This is an ok signing as long as it's not going to cost us a free agent CB.

 

[rodell330]

People upset about the pick but. Guarantee you Graham opens everything up for this offense and is a legit threat. When your WRs can’t get open..the next best thing to have is a TE who can dominate the middle of the field. Now they have one.

 

[Spanky]

How good or bad this signing is depends on the money.

 

[Ace]

How good or bad this signing is depends on the money.

I'm assuming they're just replacing Jordy's contract with Graham no?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This is an ok signing as long as it's not going to cost us a free agent CB.

The release of Jordy will offset this and still leave money for a decent FA CB.

How good or bad this signing is depends on the money.

I would say it depends more on his play in the next 3 years.

 

[pacmaniac]

Why do all our TEs (except Rodgers) like to drop passes?

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Hopefully an incentive-laden contract. The numbers thrown at these WRs is scary, and the production, injury history, and age are all working against Graham.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Why do all our TEs (except Rodgers) like to drop passes?

I actually remember reading something about this. A-Rod throws a hard ball at times and it takes awhile for receivers to get accustomed to knowing what type of ball is coming.

But I would be curious to see a stat that says our TE/WR's drop more balls then other teams.

 

[Ogsponge]

His yards and receptions production drop off is worrisome but he still caught more td’s than any TE in the league last year

 

[pacmaniac]

In case it wasn't clear from my last post, I saw this about Graham:

"And dropped passes were also an issue as Graham tied for the second-most in the NFL with seven in 2017, according to ESPN Stats and Information."

 

[longtimefan]

I'm assuming they're just replacing Jordy's contract with Graham no?

I don't see it as 10 mill per year

 

[mkonyn]

So none of this matters because we all know stats mean nothing but I did some digging.

Last year Wilson's completion percentage on 553 passes was 61%.
GB QBs had a total of 554 passes with 62% completion.

Despite having QB(s) with similar completion percentages and a difference of one pass attempt, Graham managed 57 catches last season.

Compared to the remaining TE's Lance Kendricks, Richard Rodgers, Emanuel Byrd who had a combined for 32 catches last season.

It's gotta be something of an upgrade, right?

 

[RRyder]

I'm assuming they're just replacing Jordy's contract with Graham no?

If they're giving him 10 mill a year I don't see any way this is a good deal.

I'l reserve judgment instill the numbers come out but I'd almost assuredly would have preferrd to use the cap we spent on Johnson or Butler

 

[Divot]

Is he better than our TE last year?

YES

Why the debate? We just got better.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So none of this matters because we all know stats mean nothing but I did some digging.

Last year Wilson's completion percentage on 553 passes was 61%.
GB QBs had a total of 554 passes with 62% completion.

Despite having QB(s) with similar completion percentages and a difference of one pass attempt, Graham managed 57 catches last season.

Compared to the remaining TE's Lance Kendricks, Richard Rodgers, Emanuel Byrd who had a combined for 32 catches last season.

It's gotta be something of an upgrade, right?

Graham is a definite upgrade over Mo Bennett and probably over Cook. If he plays up to his potential, this could be one of the best TE's #12 has had. It's just going to come at a pretty high cost.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If they're giving him 10 mill a year I don't see any way this is a good deal.

I'l reserve judgment instill the numbers come out but I'd almost assuredly would have preferrd to use the cap we spent on Johnson or Butler

Or if you really want to justify the signing of Graham. View it as the Packers trading Jordy for Graham. I imagine Graham's numbers will be right around what was due Jordy.

People have been screaming for an upgrade at TE, as well as the release of Jordy and or Cobb due to their contracts, this accomplishes both.

 

[brandon2348]

We did get better and people need to realize Graham was a bad scheme fit in Seahawks offense and still caught 10 Td receptions. I'm sure the Packers know what he is and that isn't a blocking inline TE. He is what we thought we were gonna get from Marty B last year and more.

If used properly this is a huge upgrade.

 

[Divot]

Why is this a Jimmy for Jordy trade discussion? They don't play the same position and FA is just starting. Why don't we wait until July/Aug to see the pieces?

 

[RRyder]

Or if you really want to justify the signing of Graham. View it as the Packers trading Jordy for Graham. I imagine Graham's numbers will be right around what was due Jordy.

People have been screaming for an upgrade at TE, as well as the release of Jordy and or Cobb due to their contracts, this accomplishes both.

If we end up paying 10 mill a year for a receiving TE comming off a 550 yard season, had butterfingers last year and is still afraid of contact it' a bad deal.

Sure he might rebound. But that's no sure thing and the ONLY way 10+ for him wouldn't be a bad deal is if he reverts to prime form. Even then it' not a great deal when a TE sucks up that much cap

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Why is this a Jimmy for Jordy trade discussion? They don't play the same position and FA is just starting. Why don't we wait until July/Aug to see the pieces?

Pretty simple math, depending on what Grahams contract calls for. Yesterday, Jordy Nelson was on the roster at X amount of dollars. Tomorrow, Graham will be on the roster and Jordy won't.

 

[SoonerPack]

Graham has 16 TD's over the past 2 seasons and was grossly underutilized. The man is finally fully healthy, can still run and is an absolute matchup nightmare. This offense just got better in my eyes and not just a little .RW is a really good QB but let's not play here, he ain't close to AR12. Not close. Jimmy is going to really open the field up and I could see Cobb being the biggest beneficiary of that. 18 is quite gifted at finding seems and cracks and with a guy like JG those seems and cracks could turn into holes. Yes, there's injury risk but name one TE that doesn't have that risk. From a production standpoint we just got a beast. I'm all for it!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If we end up paying 10 mill a year for a receiving TE comming off a 550 yard season, had butterfingers last year and is still afraid of contact it' a bad deal.

Sure he might rebound. But that's no sure thing and the ONLY way 10+ for him wouldn't be a bad deal is if he reverts to prime form. Even then it' not a great deal when a TE sucks up that much cap

Right, but if you listen to many posters here, keeping Jordy at the contract he had would have sucked equally. I'm hopeful that Graham signed a 3 year in the neighborhood of $7-8M/year. I guess we will see.

 

[Divot]

you can't compare contracts with TE and WR. You have to admit that you can't make that call until you see who we draft. I get you are talking about the dollars and cap. All i am saying is wait to see who else we get. I love this time of year.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Really really not happy right now. This guy better sell himself to me

 

[longtimefan]

If we end up paying 10 mill a year for a receiving TE comming off a 550 yard season, had butterfingers last year and is still afraid of contact it' a bad deal.

Sure he might rebound. But that's no sure thing and the ONLY way 10+ for him wouldn't be a bad deal is if he reverts to prime form. Even then it' not a great deal when a TE sucks up that much cap

Jordy was 12.55 this year.

so if it's 10, already saved 2.55