Mike McCarthy Getting Unfairly Blamed For Injuries, Bad Kicking And Team Youth

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Oh, look! We have a new word today, folks - "bandwagon!"

What does it mean?




I think it must be some teenage Madden-kid or something. That's the way most of the posts read, anyway.

Right on par for something a drunk lunatic with CTE would say. Man ****

 

[gbgary]

It's possible #12 could benefit from a coaching change just like Favre did once McCarthy took over.

possible? maybe. likely? not really. favre had Rodgers behind him and so an incentive to be/get better. to prove he still "had it." Rodgers has no one pushing him. favre isn't the brainiac Rodgers is either. he'd be more pliable than Rodgers who thinks/knows he's the smartest guy in the room. Rodgers also had to be the highest paid player in the league. favre played for fun (later revenge), brady plays to win, Rodgers plays to be #1/the best. ego. i love his ability/talent. he's been friggin great...but i said before they shouldn't extend him and to see how it goes. maybe it would have lit a different fire in him. if they fire MM i'm fine with it but the only thing that's going to change the Packers is more/better talent. that takes better evaluation, luck, guts, and cap room. Rodgers is Rodgers and he's already maxed out. Rodgers will benefit when he decides to take what the D gives him, gets the ball out quick, and keeps the chains moving. does he need a new coach for that?

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

possible? maybe. likely? not really. favre had Rodgers behind him and so an incentive to be/get better. to prove he still "had it." Rodgers has no one pushing him. favre isn't the brainiac Rodgers is either. he'd be more pliable than Rodgers who thinks/knows he's the smartest guy in the room. Rodgers also had to be the highest paid player in the league. favre played for fun (later revenge), brady plays to win, Rodgers plays to be #1/the best. ego. i love his ability/talent. he's been friggin great...but i said before they shouldn't extend him and to see how it goes. maybe it would have lit a different fire in him. if they fire MM i'm fine with it but the only thing that's going to change the Packers is more/better talent. that takes better evaluation, luck, guts, and cap room. Rodgers is Rodgers and he's already maxed out. Rodgers will benefit when he decides to take what the D gives him, gets the ball out quick, and keeps the chains moving. does he need a new coach for that?

I agree with the overall premise of your post, but I disagree greatly on Favre being pliable. He too definitely believed he was the smartest guy in the room but just didn't express it the same way Rodgers does.

 

[PackAttack12]

Right on par for something a drunk lunatic with CTE would say. Man ****

People who disagree with you are bandwagon fans that have some type of disability, or are ignorant.

*makes note of this for my records*

 

[gbgary]

I agree with the overall premise of your post, but I disagree greatly on Favre being pliable. He too definitely believed he was the smartest guy in the room but just didn't express it the same way Rodgers does.

favre didn't know what defense the other team was running. he had to quietly ask someone what "nickel" meant.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

People who disagree with you are bandwagon fans that have some type of disability, or are ignorant.

*makes note of this for my records*

No, that's not how it works, but have you seen how crazy some of the complaints are about McCarthy are? I could make a huge long list of them but don't feel it's necessary because I'm certain you've seen many of them.

But yes I do think it's insane to call for a head coach to be fired when it's only week 5 and your overall record is 2-2-1.

 

[Half Empty]

For some of us, it's three years plus the 5 weeks and a record of 29-23-1. Actually, although the regular season w-L record gets better, the last seven years plus 5 weeks gets to include a 15-1 season ending early as well as the Seattle game.

 

[gbgary]

For some of us, it's three years plus the 5 weeks and a record of 29-23-1. Actually, although the regular season w-L record gets better, the last seven years plus 5 weeks gets to include a 15-1 season ending early as well as the Seattle game.

hate to say it but looking back, i think brandon bostic threw a brick through the Rodgers' window.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

hate to say it but looking back, i think brandon bostic threw a brick threw the Rodgers' window.

Funny, I thought it was Clay's drone that did that

 

[PackerDNA]

It was a horrible game for sure but it wasn't like we got beat up by the Lions and were inferior from a talent stand point and that's not always been the case. We beat ourselves and the problems are things that can be worked out.

I still have a lot of hope for this team.

Wouldn't that be the point. Good teams find ways to win even when they're playing badly. Mediocre or bad teams find ways to lose. Kind of like this one right?

 

[brandon2348]

Wouldn't that be the point. Good teams find ways to win even when they're playing badly. Mediocre or bad teams find ways to lose. Kind of like this one right?

Yes that's all true but I'm not gonna hit the "panic button" on a 5 game sample size in early October with Aaron Rodgers not even healthy.

If this team fails miserably the rest of the way and were at week 16 then that's a different story but IMO at that time were going to be getting ready for a playoff run and I'm gonna be purchasing "playoff tickets". People can throw all the salt they want but I'm not gonna play into it. We've been in far more dire situations then where were at now.

 

[brandon2348]

Week 5 and right now Patrick Mahommes is the league MVP and the Rams are world beaters who haven't won a playoff game in years. The Browns think there contenders. Let's see how this all plays out. It's real early.

Heck, now is the time to "double down" on the Packers 30-1 train if anything. What an opportunity. Scared $ don't make $.

 

[OldSchool101]

Speaking of injuries. I’m hoping 1 of the 2 of Cobb or Allison will be back this week.
Also getting Alexander back would be huge. I’m hoping he can practice later this week.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I'll just point out that Sean Payton found a way to get a lot of value out of Taysom Hill, a guy that MM couldn't figure out how to use apparently. But I'm sure it's only because Hill didn't exectute correctly on this team or dropped too many passes or something, right?

I get it, you have seen a highlight of Hill scoring a touchdown vs. Washington and now believe he's going to be a superstar. That might be premature as he has had a total of 13 touches in his career so far though.

possible? maybe. likely? not really. favre had Rodgers behind him and so an incentive to be/get better. to prove he still "had it." Rodgers has no one pushing him.

Rodgers is pushing himself in an effort to be the best player in the league.

 

[Half Empty]

Gotta wonder, though, if his definition of 'best' is based on $$$ and stats versus wins.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Gotta wonder, though, if his definition of 'best' is based on $$$ and stats versus wins.

Rodgers does what he does because he's a fiery competitor with nothing but winning on his mind

 

[OldSchool101]

Lol at P̶a̶c̶k̶e̶r̶f̶a̶n̶i̶n̶c̶a̶r̶o̶l̶i̶n̶a̶ McCarthyFanInCarolina...
This dude is literally just going thread to thread "X"ing all my posts.

I think disagreeing “X” should have limitations! Maybe like challenge flags per thread. If we use more than 3 disagrees it should hold some unsportsmanlike ramifications. Each disagree over the threshold should flip to an “Agree” once the user exits the thread?

 

[Starr To Dowler]

Rodgers does what he does because he's a fiery competitor with nothing but winning on his mind

Same excuse people used to make for the Interception Machine, Brett Favre. Bottom line with both of them is that their egos are so massive they let it interfere with their good judgment.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

And just to make a point here, this a a DISCUSSION forum and people are entitled to express their opinion within reason. If you don't like another members opinion, we have an ignore button. This is not going to be allowed to descend into name calling or hostility. Thank you gents.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Gotta wonder, though, if his definition of 'best' is based on $$$ and stats versus wins.

While Rodgers was definitely interested in his contract extension to reflect him being the most efficient quarterback in NFL history I believe he's mainly driven by winning.

 

[Half Empty]

Rodgers does what he does because he's a fiery competitor with nothing but winning on his mind

Very well may be. How would I know that?

 

[gbgary]

Rodgers is pushing himself in an effort to be the best player in the league.

yes...i said that a couple of sentences later.

favre played for fun (later revenge), brady plays to win, Rodgers plays to be #1/the best.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Very well may be. How would I know that?

Well, it is matter of each fan's perception and perspective, but I feel Rodgers is driven by winning and just sometimes needs to be reminded that he doesn't have to win the game all himself.

 

[Half Empty]

Well, it is matter of each fan's perception and perspective, but I feel Rodgers is driven by winning and just sometimes needs to be reminded that he doesn't have to win the game all himself.

THAT's perfectly reasonable. What I was reacting to was

Rodgers does what he does because he's a fiery competitor with nothing but winning on his mind

which came across as a statement of fact.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

possible? maybe. likely? not really. favre had Rodgers behind him and so an incentive to be/get better. to prove he still "had it." Rodgers has no one pushing him. favre isn't the brainiac Rodgers is either. he'd be more pliable than Rodgers who thinks/knows he's the smartest guy in the room. Rodgers also had to be the highest paid player in the league. favre played for fun (later revenge), brady plays to win, Rodgers plays to be #1/the best. ego. i love his ability/talent. he's been friggin great...but i said before they shouldn't extend him and to see how it goes. maybe it would have lit a different fire in him. if they fire MM i'm fine with it but the only thing that's going to change the Packers is more/better talent. that takes better evaluation, luck, guts, and cap room. Rodgers is Rodgers and he's already maxed out. Rodgers will benefit when he decides to take what the D gives him, gets the ball out quick, and keeps the chains moving. does he need a new coach for that?

Apparently, since he's not doing so now and hasn't really been doing so regularly for a while now, I would say that he does need a coaching change. There's a reason that not many coaches last this long in professional sports. Millionaires tend to tune guys out after a while. Doesn't mean it's always the coaches fault, just that guys get complacent/bored/etc.

And not extending Rodgers would have been tough. Now, with solid cap numbers they can plan for the next few years. With him not being extended, it would have been a CONSTANT question and would have made it tough to plan the cap long-term. The Packers have plenty of talent on offense to be one of the five best in the NFL if the players can either A) get a scheme that plays to their strengths or (if you believe MM is an innocent scapegoat that's been the target of bad luck for three years) B) get a coach that can get the players to buy into the scheme in a way that the current players (ahem, Rodgers) just aren't. We can complain about Rodgers not buying in and not playing to the scheme as much as we want but if the best way to get him to play within the scheme is to change the coach, then that's the way the team should go. Just wagging your finger at Rodgers and saying, "do better" might not be that effective.