Mike McCarthy Getting Unfairly Blamed For Injuries, Bad Kicking And Team Youth

[easyk83]

This is true but Rodgers has gotten into a habit of holding on to the ball too long.

To me it's all about efficiency Rodgers wants to attack downfield, which has been a problem in the past. But use the run to set those killshots up, he's going to have more time to let those routes develop if opposing Dlines have to crunch up and play the run. It looked like Detroit was constantly teeing off with their pass rush.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

If MM wasn't calling more run plays today then he was supremely incompetent. So either it's Aaron checking out of run plays due to his highly competitive nature, he wants the ball in his hands. OR it's MM just being completely incompetent and he has a grasp of football compared to an inexperienced Madden player.

See that second fumble with a shotgun snap and the way Detroit had spread their dline, right there if a run wasn't called the smart play is to check into a run or shovel pass and pick up an easy first down and then some. Instead Rodgers drops back gets sacked and then coughs up the football.

So you think that MMs grasp of play selection is comparable to 12 year old Madden players?

Linsley blew the block on that play, and run play makes no difference on that.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

To me it's all about efficiency Rodgers wants to attack downfield, which has been a problem in the past. But use the run to set those killshots up, he's going to have more time to let those routes develop if opposing Dlines have to crunch up and play the run. It looked like Detroit was constantly teeing off with their pass rush.

I saw MM work plenty of draw plays in there today.


Problem is of course he's going to call more passes when Detroit gets an early bad call in their favor and then Whitt's garbage secondary allows Golladay to torch them building up a big lead. Fall behind big usually means more pass and less run.

 

[PackAttack12]

So you think that MMs grasp of play selection is comparable to 12 year old Madden players?

Are you questioning the decision making of the most efficient QB in the history of the NFL???

It doesn’t have to be an all or nine proposition. I’m just saying that none of us know for sure.

 

[easyk83]

Linsley blew the block on that play, and run play makes no difference on that.

I think it was Taylor who whiffed even after getting a help block from Linsley. If the Packers run their it wouldn't have progressed that far. The back had time to get all the way out to the flat, unfortunately Rodgers is looking for a kill shot against what was probably a two deep shell. He throws it to Monty as soon as he gets early and it's an easy first down.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Also I completely disagree with allowing a 57 yard FG try after my kicker can’t stick an extra point and is clearly out of his element.
That’s not the fault of even ONE rookie. That’s 100% on Mike McCarthy and there is not reasonable excuse good enough. Crosby didn’t deserve that I would benched him first.
Oddly I do agree with giving him a shot to shake his monkey in garbage time.

Pretty sure everyone would be yacking at him if he goes for it on that down and we don't convert. I would have gone for it too, but it was a lose-lose situation regardless.

 

[PackAttack12]

Also I completely disagree with allowing a 57 yard FG try after my kicker can’t stick an extra point and is clearly out of his element.
That’s not the fault of even ONE rookie. That’s 100% on Mike McCarthy and there is not reasonable excuse good enough. Crosby didn’t deserve that I would benched him first.
Oddly I do agree with giving him a shot to shake his monkey in garbage time.

Absolute insanity allowing him to attempt the 56 yarder. The last FG attempt was the only decision that made any sense, as it was absolutely the only remote chance the Packers had to win the game.

 

[brandon2348]

To me it's all about efficiency Rodgers wants to attack downfield, which has been a problem in the past. But use the run to set those killshots up, he's going to have more time to let those routes develop if opposing Dlines have to crunch up and play the run. It looked like Detroit was constantly teeing off with their pass rush.

Everyone wants balance but hard to maintain balance when your down in a 24'-0 hole because of turnovers and bad special teams play and Crosby follies.

Would the outcome been different today if they ran Jones more to finish those early drives? I'm not so sure.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I think it was Taylor who whiffed even after getting a help block from Linsley. If the Packers run their it wouldn't have progressed that far. The back had time to get all the way out to the flat, unfortunately Rodgers is looking for a kill shot against what was probably a two deep shell. He throws it to Monty as soon as he gets early and it's an easy first down.

Pretty sure we were trying to run a 2 minute drill there, and running it would be blowing too much clock time.

 

[PackAttack12]

Pretty sure everyone would be yacking at him if he goes for it on that down and we don't convert. I would have gone for it too, but it was a lose-lose situation regardless.

Trust the best quarterback in the game, or a guy who missed 2 FGs and just missed an extra point? There’s no other way to describe the decision other than flat out moronic.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Trust the best quarterback in the game, or a guy who missed 2 FGs and just missed an extra point? There’s no other way to describe the decision other than flat out moronic.

I still say it was a no-win situation either way you dice it up. If Davante, who did have a good game but just missed that big catch there catches it, it's a non-issue.

 

[PackAttack12]

I still say it was a no-win situation either way you dice it up. If Davante, who did have a good game but just missed that big catch there catches it, it's a non-issue.

So once again you have zero interest in giving the slightest bit of culpability to the only man on the field or the sidelines who is responsible for the performance of the entire football team.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Packer96]

Do the Packers play up to their talent level, above their talent level, or below their talent level? If they are playing up to or below with a HOF QB then who's to blame for how they play? MM lost me at Seattle and I've seen nothing that makes me think MM will get us back to a SB.

 

[Lawdog]

This is just not a good team now. Can they continue to progress and improve during the course of the season yes. I'm sorry but every team in the NFL is dealing with injuries. The depth on this team is snotty at best due to just flat out bad drafts and extending the wrong players.

This is going to be a long season people.

 

[Mike McCarthy]

Playoffs!?!?!?

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

This is just not a good team now. Can they continue to progress and improve during the course of the season yes. I'm sorry but every team in the NFL is dealing with injuries. The depth on this team is snotty at best due to just flat out bad drafts and extending the wrong players.

This is going to be a long season people.

It's a week by week season people.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

So once again you have zero interest in giving the slightest bit of culpability to the only man on the field or the sidelines who is responsible for the performance of the entire football team.

Thanks for the clarification.

Everyone is to blame, but we got a lot of football left to correct this and time for Rodgers knee to recover and Cobb to return.

I call a win next week against San Francisco because they actually do have an awful head coach

 

[brandon2348]

As much as I am disappointed with the way things have gone this is a long season and we have a young team. Much to early to write off a season or MM at this point.

 

[OldSchool101]

Everyone wants balance but hard to maintain balance when your down in a 24'-0 hole because of turnovers and bad special teams play and Crosby follies.

Would the outcome been different today if they ran Jones more to finish those early drives? I'm not so sure.

I would’ve taken the 1980’s Run-run-Pass-punt
Run-run-Pass-punt Run-run-Pass punt over what I saw today. We have one of the leagues better Punters and a decent coverage ST group. Would have been better playing field position over forcing Aaron to scramble during that first half. Those first half passing plays should’ve never went more than 3 sec tops and I would’ve been on a QB 2 read program out of the gate. Once again we knew they were going to bring pressure early and we played directly into their hand. I watched the Pats march up and down the field throwing passes in 1.5 sec average (no joking here). We need to learn to attack their D with short high probability throws at 6-7 yards. That also draws fouls if they assault our WR outside the 5 yard threshold. We went out n got tall receivers for what??
I watched this 1st half game plan spiral out of control too many times recently. Same thing different day. Truly nothing innovative

 

[brandon2348]

I would’ve taken the 1980’s Run-run-Pass-punt
Run-run-Pass-punt Run-run-Pass punt over what I saw today. We have one of the leagues better Punters and a decent coverage ST group. Would have been better playing field position over forcing Aaron to scramble during that first half. Those first half passing plays should’ve never went more than 3 sec tops and I would’ve been on a QB 2 read program out of the gate. Once again we knew they were going to bring pressure early and we played directly into their hand. I watched the Pats march up and down the field throwing passes in 1.5 sec average (no joking here). We need to learn to attack their D with short high probability throws at 6-7 yards. That also draws fouls if they assault our WR outside the 5 yard threshold. We went out n got tall receivers for what??
I watched this 1st half game plan spiral out of control too many times recently. Same thing different day. Truly nothing innovative

I am disappointed with Rodgers holding on to the ball to long as well. Seems like things have morphed back into early season offense of 2016 but once again with the way they were behind early hard not to play into that.

This team needs a win next week against the niners and get to the bye to re-set and get healthy for a run.

 

[OldSchool101]

I am disappointed with Rodgers holding on to the ball to long as well. Seems like things have morphed back into early season offense of 2016 but once again with the way they were behind early hard not to play into that.

This team needs a win next week against the niners and get to the bye to re-set and get healthy for a run.

Agreed. I do know that although we digressed today, there was some evidence of improvement in some areas, particularly in our WR depth. I said long ago that we’re built for 2019 because we’re 4-5 puzzle pieces away from being really good. We also have the benefit of a lot of young players coming to fruition by end of next year to coincide with that. We need to NET (after FA losses) those improvements between FA and the draft to make it happen.
My guess?
1-Safety, 1-ILB, 1-Edge, 1-OL 1-WR from being a legit contender.

 

[sjb12681]

At the end of the day, this team should be 1-4. Period. With the win against a bad Buffalo team.

That's what I see as a huge problem for MM. He consistently cannot get this team rolling. They never wake up until typically down multiple scores. We see the same things over and over and over.

He does not have the ability to change. He scripts his plays for the first 20 or so, and he by his own word rarely deviates from it.
He is a creature of habit, which would be great if it worked. But for him, either by stale coaching or ineptitude, it doesn't.

We saw it last year with Hundley, we see it week in and out with playcalling. We see it with the oline and refusing to adjust protection, etc. Etc. Etc.

I'm sorry. I'm ready for a change. Seems like a few others are as well. To be seen if Murphy is.

 

[easyk83]

I would’ve taken the 1980’s Run-run-Pass-punt
Run-run-Pass-punt Run-run-Pass punt over what I saw today. We have one of the leagues better Punters and a decent coverage ST group. Would have been better playing field position over forcing Aaron to scramble during that first half. Those first half passing plays should’ve never went more than 3 sec tops and I would’ve been on a QB 2 read program out of the gate. Once again we knew they were going to bring pressure early and we played directly into their hand. I watched the Pats march up and down the field throwing passes in 1.5 sec average (no joking here). We need to learn to attack their D with short high probability throws at 6-7 yards. That also draws fouls if they assault our WR outside the 5 yard threshold. We went out n got tall receivers for what??
I watched this 1st half game plan spiral out of control too many times recently. Same thing different day. Truly nothing innovative

I fear that this is more of an AR problem, if we do replace HCs will a new guy get Rodgers to get the ball out faster and to stick with called run plays? Or will we see the Rodgers version of the Sherman era Brett Favre.

 

[sjb12681]

I fear that this is more of an AR problem, if we do replace HCs will a new guy get Rodgers to get the ball out faster and to stick with called run plays? Or will we see the Rodgers version of the Sherman era Brett Favre.

No, I think we see the mcCarthy reemergence of Favre like we did after the Sherman era.

This is Rodgers version of Favres "Sherman era" we are in now

 

[XPack]

AR has been the saving grace of this offense till now. With him I jured last season and off form this time, MM stinks up the place.