McCarthy is a great coach

[NelsonsLongCatch]

Yes, that is impressive. However, it's not a good comparison to MM when MM was down to option number 4, not his back up.

That Patriots team was also coming of the 16-0 season and was loaded with talent so it wasn't all Belicheck.

EDIT: Belicheck also went 5-13 before Brady.

McCarthy was down to his "4th option" because the backup quarterback on the roster (Seneca Wallace) should never have been on the team (or in the league). He doesn't get a pass for keeping a horrible quarterback on the roster.

 

[Sanguine camper]

There is a lot of discord on the team right now. While it's too early to tell if the team quit on MM, they sure don't look motivated. I think that MM has run out of ideas and other coaching staffs have answers to his scemes. The Packers will have two more ugly loses to finish the season 4-7. I think it's time for a house cleaning after that. TT has left too many holes on the team year after year with way too many high draft pick busts, Both MM and TT need to get the boot. They are just not getting the job done.

 

[longtimefan]

dont take the baiters/trolls too seriously, youll never get out alive

There is a lot of discord on the team right now. While it's too early to tell if the team quit on MM, they sure don't look motivated. I think that MM has run out of ideas and other coaching staffs have answers to his scemes. The Packers will have two more ugly loses to finish the season 4-7. I think it's time for a house cleaning after that. TT has left too many holes on the team year after year with way too many high draft pick busts, Both MM and TT need to get the boot. They are just not getting the job done.

NFCCG to being fired...really?

 

[JBlood]

Interesting article: http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/12/27/packers-cardinals-mike-mccarthy-bruce-arians?xid=nl_siextra

 

[Guacamole]

To blame the loss vs Seattle with all the player mistakes that happened doesn't make sense all at.

I see you you did not watch the game

 

[Carl]

I see you you did not watch he game

Please explain then how it's MMs fault Bostick did the exact opposite of what he was told, HaHa forgot he was on the field on the 2 point conversion, and their best slot corner got burned early in OT.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

NFCCG to being fired...really?

I think the fact that the offense was clicking at the beginning, defenses figured out how to stop us, and no adjustments have been made to get guys open or protect Rodgers says a lot about our coach.

I know, you are correct by saying much of this is on the players. But I don't see a coach trying to make the most out of what he's got. I think he is uncomfortable with trying new things, and would rather stick to his formula that quite frankly would require better players in multiple positions in order to work.

 

[Carl]

I think the fact that the offense was clicking at the beginning, defenses figured out how to stop us, and no adjustments have been made to get guys open or protect Rodgers says a lot about our coach.

I know, you are correct by saying much of this is on the players. But I don't see a coach trying to make the most out of what he's got. I think he is uncomfortable with trying new things, and would rather stick to his formula that quite frankly would require better players in multiple positions in order to work.

What coach out there can scheme for poor blocking, WRs not getting open, and bad QB throws?

How do you think it can be done?

 

[Patriotplayer90]

What coach out there can scheme for poor blocking, WRs not getting open, and bad QB throws?

How do you think it can be done?

I'm not paid millions to make it work. But I'd assume quicker routes and screens, instead of everyone running 10-15 yards down the field every play and getting blanketed by their CBs. And there are man-beater routes like screens, but I know we are all tired of hearing that term and we aren't going to see those.

The problem is nobody is comfortable and has any confidence in this offense. So when things rarely do work out, the execution is off. I put that on the coach.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

You wonder how we would do with a top 5 coach of all time? good question.

We do partake in free agency. Peppers and Woodson were some of the best free agent pick ups in the past 10 years

You're right, my thought was off base...the Packers have brought in seven free agents in eight years, I don't know what I was thinking!

 

[Sunshinepacker]

LOL every season we get those posters (you know who you are) who suggest we should sign this guy this guy or this guy. And yet without fail it turns out to be a not so great move by the team that signs said player. We have had massive success with the few FAs we have signed, but we dont sign that many. Oddly enough GB is used for leverage more than its used as a legit option for alot of FAs (Hi steven Jackson)

Without fail? What's your grading scale? I would say the Revis signing leading the Pats to a Super Bowl was a pretty good signing. As were the Pats signing Sheard this offseason. Think the Steelers are happy they brought in DeAngelo Williams? What about the Raiders signing Dan Williams to an affordable contract and getting one of the better defensive tackles in the NFL? The Bears got a great value in Pernell McPhee this offseason (or if a team is bad do their free agent signings not count?).

 

[Carl]

I'm not paid millions to make it work. But I'd assume quicker routes and screens, instead of everyone running 10-15 yards down the field every play and getting blanketed by their CBs. And there are man-beater routes like screens, but I know we are all tired of hearing that term and we aren't going to see those.

The problem is nobody is comfortable and has any confidence in this offense. So when things rarely do work out, the execution is off. I put that on the coach.

Quick routes and screens still require players to execute. The quick fade to Adams was great until it went right through his hands.

Besides, quick and routes and screens can't be used alone to move the ball.

A playbook doesn't exist that would have worked for the Packers on Sunday.

 

[Un4GivN]

Besides, quick and routes and screens can't be used alone to move the ball.

Totally agree, how many failed bubble screens to Cobb do I have to watch? Good concept but receiver blocking is lacking, lineman are hurt and can't get out in front, among other things.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Kind of curious to see how many people still think the problem was Campen calling plays? Will be interesting to see if the Packers lose Campen in the offseason due to being made a scapegoat.

 

[TJV]

I'll bet you meant:

Kind of curious to see how many people still think the problem was Campen Clements calling plays? Will be interesting to see if the Packers lose Campen Clements in the offseason due to being made a scapegoat.

 

[Un4GivN]

Kind of curious to see how many people still think the problem was Campen calling plays? Will be interesting to see if the Packers lose Campen in the offseason due to being made a scapegoat.

Campen calling plays would be a problem I think...

But serious answer is, I never believed that... While play callers can give you a certain strategic advantage.... If you can't block, catch, tackle, throw, run. Doesn't really matter what play you run.

They can give a team a very slight advantage in an even matchup. But at the end of the talent wins games. That's why you will see sometimes a team come out and drive the ball when they shouldn't because of good play-calling and energy. But that doesn't typically last a whole game, and talent and fundamentals take over.

Best play call in the world doesn't work if your linemen hold... Just means you are 10 yards back further than before.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Totally agree, how many failed bubble screens to Cobb do I have to watch. Good concept but receiver blocking is lacking, among other things.

I wasn't really thinking bubble screens, as those are just another weak example of trying to get Cobb involved. I have to believe there is some coach out there who could analyze the defenses and find opportunities. We have an agile veteran QB with top-notch arm talent, that creates a lot of possibilities

They are a great defense, but Seattle's line has been just as bad as ours, and Wilson only went down one and they scored 32 without them being able to run or throw particularly effectively. I doubt their gameplan was to let Wilson drop back and get killed.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I'll bet you meant:

Yup, that's the one!

 

[longtimefan]

Ok why disagree tag if you wont explain?
@pacmaniac

 

[Bigred572005]

Cheers to the hurricane McCarthy!!!

 

[rodell330]

Lol! He's a solid coach...nothing more.

 

[ivo610]

Without fail? What's your grading scale? I would say the Revis signing leading the Pats to a Super Bowl was a pretty good signing. As were the Pats signing Sheard this offseason. Think the Steelers are happy they brought in DeAngelo Williams? What about the Raiders signing Dan Williams to an affordable contract and getting one of the better defensive tackles in the NFL? The Bears got a great value in Pernell McPhee this offseason (or if a team is bad do their free agent signings not count?).

Yes you can find good signings we missed out on, as I said in another post. It also takes two to play and a lot of the time it's not GB who won't come to the table.

 

[Packerlifer]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2016/1/1/10697346/mike-mccarthy-and-the-trouble-with-consistency

 

[Randy S.]

No this isn't a homer opinion or green and gold glasses stance but rather a theory. For years McCarthy has focused 95% of his time on the offensive side of the ball and the packers have had great success.

In 2015 he gave up that focus to be a "big picture" coach. What really happened in my view is he gave up the offensive duties to focus 60 to 70% of his time on defense. Look at the results this year outside of the Denver game. The defense has been playing well, even great in the game against Minnesota. However look at how far the offense has fallen, this leads me to my theory.

Mike McCarthy is a great coach, but a terrible hiring manager. His offensive and defensive staffs do not perform when he isn't directly over seeing / supervising them. Look at the few coaches who have gone else where. Joe philbin, flop. Ben McAdoo, mixed results. I've been thinking about this the past few days, thoughts?

 

[JK64]

Watched the game plan in the first half = McCarthy sucks! Team plays with no heart MM sucks! MM has lost AR, he sucks!