King has to be gone/upgraded

[longtimefan]

In case not seen but its about king not pressing..35 mins in coach comes on

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[tynimiller]

Fast forwarded to 35 mins in...talking about swearing, beer drinking and media....at 39 presently and no mention of coverage yet.

*Update: 44 minute mark nothing.

 

[Mondio]

I think it was actually the 32:xx mark it starts

 

[Half Empty]

Source? Not disputing it but I agree with @Poppa San that that statistic definitely wouldn't pass my own scouting report.

Pro Football Reference (have to use more than one page) shows:

King with 11 games, 664 snaps, 57 targets, for a 11.74

Alexander with 15, 900, 80, for a 11.25

Didn't take the time to see if any outlier games significantly affected the numbers

 

[longtimefan]

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Fast forwarded to 35 mins in...talking about swearing, beer drinking and media....at 39 presently and no mention of coverage yet.

*Update: 44 minute mark nothing.

You didnt watch the whole thing?? 32 min mark
Nagler to coach
You mentioned soft coverage 3rd and short

Also packers.com

Pettine pc..again Nagler asks him same question..and Pettine gave long answer

 

[longtimefan]

https://www.packers.com/video/pettine-on-what-s-spurred-uptick-in-packers-red-zone-defense

 

[Poppa San]

Could practicing against AR12 be a hindrance on 3rd and short? He likes to take a shot there and go again on 4th for the sticks. Defense plays as it practices.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Kevin King would be worth it if he signs a contract valued as a team's 3rd corner. Getting a more consistent, better corner to pair with Jaire is relatively important because teams don't throw at Jaire.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure who the Packers have on the roster to take King's place if he wants too much. Gute might have forced himself into re-signing King with last year's draft.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Could practicing against AR12 be a hindrance on 3rd and short? He likes to take a shot there and go again on 4th for the sticks. Defense plays as it practices.

King isn't a fast twitch guy and he's also not particularly great at jamming receivers. He's a physical duplicate of Richard Sherman but lacks the physicality of Sherman. You can't trust him not to get beat deep on a double move, he lacks the speed to catch up or the hips to turn and run, so you gotta play him off and hope he can make the tackle. Maybe he learns to be more physical, ala Richard Sherman, but he hasn't really shown that consistently yet.

 

[tynimiller]

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You didnt watch the whole thing?? 32 min mark
Nagler to coach
You mentioned soft coverage 3rd and short

Also packers.com

Pettine pc..again Nagler asks him same question..and Pettine gave long answer

I backed up and watched, sorry didn't wanna watch all the pre interview stuff and fast forwarded to the 35 min mark as mentioned. No worries and wasn't mad, just got confused.

 

[gbgary]

well...unless they draft a guy who'll actually start and be better than king, they'll be worse back there without him. it's as simple as that. oh...and there's a greater than zero chance that's the position they target in the first round.

 

[PikeBadger]

well...unless they draft a guy who'll actually start and be better than king, they'll be worse back there without him. it's as simple as that. oh...and there's a greater than zero chance that's the position they target in the first round.

Likely true. However there is a possibility that one of the current CB’s on the roster or practice squad could actually be a better producer than King. There is also the possibility that an off the street free agent CB could be acquired next summer that becomes our #2 CB and be a more reliable player than King.

no doubt about it though, we are a significant injury to Alexander away from being in a very bad position. To be fair though, there are plenty of teams vulnerable to this kind of scenario. One thing that may set us apart from most everyone else is that we have all pro caliber players scattered amongst several position groups. When looking at the roster in totality going forward, I think we’ll be fine. Maybe not quite as strong as the current team, but I’m not expecting a big drop off.

 

[longtimefan]

Ryan Wood packer insider on wssp bart winkler show (cant find link but listening to it now on radio.com app)

He is laughing at people that think king is bad

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[Pugger]

I doubt another team is going to offer him a big contract so I doubt he'll be going anywhere. We do need to upgrade that spot. His tackling technique is poor and he is injury prone. What good is he if he misses games every year? To think we passed on TJ Watt....

 

[Dantés]

well...unless they draft a guy who'll actually start and be better than king, they'll be worse back there without him. it's as simple as that. oh...and there's a greater than zero chance that's the position they target in the first round.

Oh wouldn't that be amazing?

 

[PikeBadger]

I doubt another team is going to offer him a big contract so I doubt he'll be going anywhere. We do need to upgrade that spot. His tackling technique is poor and he is injury prone. What good is he if he misses games every year? To think we passed on TJ Watt....

not drafting Watt still causes me angst. The entire defense makeup would look different today with him on it. How many tfl’s and turnovers would he have been responsible for? IMO, Watt and Tyler Lockett are our two biggest misses in recent years.

 

[Dantés]

There have been some rumblings that King is playing through an undisclosed injury.

He's not a great corner when he's healthy, and part of the deal with him is that he is ALWAYS hurt.

But that might explained why he's been particularly bad this season. And it might be an avenue to bring him back on an inexpensive, one year deal to help bridge to a new player.

 

[gbgary]

I doubt another team is going to offer him a big contract so I doubt he'll be going anywhere. We do need to upgrade that spot. His tackling technique is poor and he is injury prone. What good is he if he misses games every year? To think we passed on TJ Watt....

sometimes his tackling isn't good but most of the time it is. it's the diving misses that we remember and get the attention. there are plenty of teams with cap room going into 2021 that giving king a good contract won't be problem for. he'll get paid. he's an above average corner with the measurables teams like.

 

[melvin dangerr]

I’m going to go with the wait and see on King, thru the playoffs before a final judgment. I also agree we have had a lot of inconsistencies on both sides of the ball all season, but if his play and others is of the highest suck ability, don’t release him out right see what’s out there for trade bait or maybe a lucky draft pick

 

[gbgary]

I’m going to go with the wait and see on King, thru the playoffs before a final judgment. I also agree we have had a lot of inconsistencies on both sides of the ball all season, but if his play and others is of the highest suck ability, don’t release him out right see what’s out there for trade bait or maybe a lucky draft pick

he's a free agent after this season. he's gone.

 

[swhitset]

I’m going to go with the wait and see on King, thru the playoffs before a final judgment. I also agree we have had a lot of inconsistencies on both sides of the ball all season, but if his play and others is of the highest suck ability, don’t release him out right see what’s out there for trade bait or maybe a lucky draft pick

We don’t have the luxury of deciding to release or keep him. He is a free agent after this year. This discussion wouldn’t be happening were this not the case. If he was still going to be under his rookie contract next year it would be a no brainer to keep him. The fact that he is going to be negotiating a second contract with some team is the whole point. The Packers have negative cap space going into next year, and signing King to a lucrative second contract is highly unlikely for the Packers.

 

[Pugger]

he's a free agent after this season. he's gone.

It will depend upon what his market is and how other teams value him. He may find he is not is demand and will return in 2021.

 

[longtimefan]

There have been some rumblings that King is playing through an undisclosed injury.

He's not a great corner when he's healthy, and part of the deal with him is that he is ALWAYS hurt.

But that might explained why he's been particularly bad this season. And it might be an avenue to bring him back on an inexpensive, one year deal to help bridge to a new player.

Ive alluded to it..but what do I know?

I posted yesterday how packer insider who covers them thinks people that hate him make him laugh.

Ryan Wood

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I doubt another team is going to offer him a big contract so I doubt he'll be going anywhere.

I'm convinced at least one team will offer King a lucrative contract. Let's hope it's not the Packers though.

 

[gopkrs]

Whatever happens in the future, I am glad he is with us on this playoff run.