Is this the worst draft in this decade for the Packers?

[Dantés]

Gutekunst said there were wide receivers that they liked early who he thought could help right away, but they didn't get to the Packers' selections. In the middle and later rounds, he said that the options were developmental and didn't appeal to him more than the guys already in the pipeline.

Translation-- once he missed out on the top of the class, he decided he'd rather just stay in the course in developing Valdes-Scantling, St. Brown, and Lazard than start over with new projects.

 

[Do7]

A buddy of mine who is a Steelers fan sent this to me just now. I was not amused...

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[scotscheese]

as my knowledge of college football is virtually nothing, I'm not going to comment on the draftees themselves.

however I am going to comment on all the negativity here. FFS it's been hard reading a lot of the comments the last couple of days. I agree that the positions picked are very surprising considering what most here were highlighting as needs on the team, but how much **** people are saying is doing my head in. before hitting the post button folks, just have a read quickly and see if it's really necessary or even part of a discussion. someone said worst draft of this decade, it's the first draft of the decade, 2010-2020 is 11 years, so this is simultaneously the best and worst of the decade so far.

my opinion, wow! very strange draft for us. glad we went offense heavy, but surprised by the positions picked.

Love, I can only think that the FO think the chances of picking up a QB in the next couple of years is going to be difficult, Lawrence(?) at clemson is highly unlikely to fall enough to make a trade up worth it, so we now have a chance to see how Love grows over the next 2-3 years before we decide if AR will be here at 40 or if Love takes over whether by trade/release of AR or if he retires, and hopefully Love is worth being here as a passable backup.

the rest? well I'm certainly surprised that we didn't draft a WR, given the talk about how strong the class was, just have to guess that we think we're fine with what we have so far.

thought we would have addressed WR/DL/ILB with earlier picks

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

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Whatever you say boss.....

 

[Spanky]

It's like Gutey's wife sent him to the grocery store to get milk, eggs, and bread--and he came home with a box of Twinkies, a six pack of Natty Light and a paddle-ball game. WTF?

 

[rmontro]

I am going to comment on all the negativity here. FFS it's been hard reading a lot of the comments the last couple of days. I agree that the positions picked are very surprising considering what most here were highlighting as needs on the team, but how much **** people are saying is doing my head in

People want to blow off steam. I did it myself. You can kind of see what they were trying to do here. I'm not convinced it's going to work necessarily, but you can see what they're trying to do. I'm sure we're going to end up liking several of these players. I hope.

 

[Mondio]

People want to blow off steam. I did it myself. You can kind of see what they were trying to do here. I'm not convinced it's going to work necessarily, but you can see what they're trying to do. I'm sure we're going to end up liking several of these players. I hope.

There’s a difference between blowing off some steam and having a days long emotionally charged tirade that rivals the logic of a 3.5 year old.

I’ve always thought some stress was was good. Sharpens the mind, the body. Exposes weakness in a supply chain, trims fat in business, and exposes emotional ninnies on a sports board.

All good for the long haul if you respond to the stress correctly.

 

[scotscheese]

People want to blow off steam. I did it myself. You can kind of see what they were trying to do here. I'm not convinced it's going to work necessarily, but you can see what they're trying to do. I'm sure we're going to end up liking several of these players. I hope.

I completely understand that dude, and I'm in no way saying people can't be pissed. It's just the manner in the way some of it is being said. we don't want more Brandon-ness here

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

Honestly, I'd champion Brandon if he were here right now....

 

[Do7]

Honestly, I'd champion Brandon if he were here right now....

Oh Dear God in Heaven...

 

[adambr2]

I am definitely not defending Gutekunst's failure to take a WR, so don't take this the wrong way. I just thought this was interesting and wanted to point it out.

1st Rd: 5 WR's come off the board, and then SF trades up and takes Aiyuk before he gets to the Packers.
2nd Rd: Van Jefferson and Denzel Mims come off in the five picks before the Packers select.
3rd Rd: Ravens take Duvernay 2 picks before GB selects.

Now I have no idea if the Packers were going to take any of those guys. But in various ways, they were good fit, and they all got snapped up just before GB picked. So I'm wondering if they were getting sniped a little bit.

Really no less of a failure on Gute's part if that were the case. He had sufficient trade capital still to make those moves and did not. He has not been averse to trading up in the past even to a point where some would say unnecessarily.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Am I the only one getting popup ads for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline?

I think they have smartly linked that Ad to anyone that does a search for anything remotely related to The Green Bay Packers.

 

[Viper556]

Yes, I think this quite possibly could be one of the Packers worst drafts in a long time. Completely stupid. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

How do you enter a draft with 10 picks and not address 2 positions of high need? How do you come out of a draft with 9 players that most would describe them as "backup for now and potential future starter"?

As a Packer fan I can only hope that Gute and MLF shock us all and this draft goes from what many seem to think is about a D- to a solid B. If it doesn't, this actually could be a draft that might be career defining/ending for Gute.

Have to say, this is about as disappointed I have ever felt after a Packer draft that I can remember.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's like Gutey's wife sent him to the grocery store to get milk, eggs, and bread--and he came home with a box of Twinkies, a six pack of Natty Light and a paddle-ball game. WTF?

If I could, I would add that he came home with another woman too.

 

[Fredrik87]

I saw this and thought I had to share it here.

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This one is pretty good as well.

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[OldSchool101]

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This one is pretty good as well.

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Bro. I literally laughed until my cheeks hurt at that first video. Really funny or I’m really tired!

 

[Fredrik87]

Bro. I literally laughed until my cheeks hurt at that first video. Really funny or I’m really tired!

Glad you liked it!

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

The pic of LaFleur's kid like 'it ain't me doin' this dumb sh*t' cracked me up when I saw it earlier on twitter.

 

[hasamikun]

Day 3 was actually pretty good imo. I really like all of the OL picked, especially Runyan. And the rest of the picks are solid depth players for positions that needed depth. Although i would have loved DPJ this late, that would have been the biggest steal in the draft. But they are really high on the WR room so we will see.

Dillon is also a really good pick and Love has a really good value for the team. Finally a quality back-up behind Rodgers who can jump in and be productive. That was missing for many years and Packers paid for it. If Rodgers balls out and will play for a longer time, they can trade Love for good value. While I didnt like the trade-up, the pick still was good.

Deguara, while fitting the system perfectly, was a massive reach and I dont like this. Same for Martin in the 5th.

So right now, I would give the draft a C but judgement will be out in a few years. Fact is they go in a completely different direction now and I cant blame them for that. This will be the most important draft for Gutey and MLF in Green bay. The stakes are high

 

[RepStar15]

I am not fond of the packers draft overall, but I am not an NFL coach, GM or scout. We truly can not evaluate this draft until 2023. If Jordan Love outperforms Aaron Rodgers and we trade Rodgers for draft capital (or if Jordan Love progresses and we trade him for draft capital), AJ Dillion becomes Mark Ingram, Josiah Degura becomes Kyle Juszczyk and we have some starters on the interior Oline, it could be an epic draft. If Love is Brett Gundley, Dillion is Sony Michel and Josiah Degura is Brandon Botstick then this could go down as one of the worst drafts in franchise history.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

they are really high on the WR room so we will see.

This will be something discussed quite a bit before, during and after the season. I heard this same thing a year ago. At that time the Packers had a lot of young talent that they were very high on, let Cobb walk in Free agency and did nothing in the draft to inject high end talent to the group. I complained about the group being thin back in September and unfortunately I think my fears were proven to be correct.

Skip ahead one year. The 2019 season was filled with inconsistent play by the WR's group. Adams was himself, Lazard stepped up from the Practice squad and showed that he potentially could be a legit starter (something MVS showed his rookie year). Meanwhile, GMO proved he isn't a starter. MVS fell off a cliff. Trevor Davis was traded to the Raiders for a 6th round pic and later cut by the Raiders, Shepherd stunk and was demoted to the PS and Kumerow played like the utility 6th WR that he seems to be.

So what has changed since the end of the 2019 to make Gute and MLF so content with the WR room that they passed up drafting a probable rookie starter in a deeply talented WR draft?

1. Signed CFL WR Reggie Begelton
2. Signed FA Devin Funchess
3. Let GMO walk
4. resigned Kumerow
5. ESB gets healthy

Sorry, none of those moves make me think that the Packers WR group is much better than what we saw in 2019. MLF and Gute can tell us all they want that "they really like the group they have" or "the board just didn't fall the way we wanted it to". I don't fully believe either statement. Would love to know how #12 feels.

 

[XPack]

If Jordan Love outperforms Aaron Rodgers and we trade Rodgers for draft capital (or if Jordan Love progresses and we trade him for draft capital),

I doubt we'd see either by 2023. Love would only see very limited action given our cap hit on AR at least for next 2 years.

 

[Pugger]

How do we not draft a WR? And since we took a TE, how do we not draft Kmet? We could have had either Kmet or Claypool in the first round, instead we take Love ... WTF???

Even after moving up to 26 what WR would you have taken? Tiggens or Pittman? I could have gotten behind that! Kmet in the first? We would then have had to stay at 30 and then trade that 4th round pick (or our 3rd) to move up to take Kmet or Claypool.

 

[adambr2]

I just don't really understand why we're so insistent on gearing our offense toward a smashmouth type strategy that is frankly kind out of outdated and relies heavily on defense. Not many championships have been won on the back of this idea in this era and the ones that did almost always had an elite defense to complement it.

Tennessee didn't have a wildly successful offense under MLF and didn't really find success until Henry broke out in '19. You could point to the '17 Rams but Goff really broke out that year and they also had some very good receivers, and used Gurley out of the backfield much more frequently.

I'd rather build the Chiefs' offense and outscore everyone and not have to have an elite defense out of necessity to win a championship, frankly.