Free Agents you would like to see sign with Green Bay in 2019?

[Reggie White Cheese]

Danny Amendola just released per Dolphins.. Replacement for Cobb??

 

[Dantés]

I think if we're going FA RB we'd be in on more the bell-cow type RB (there's not much in FA this year for this type of player). Tevin didn't do much with his increased exposure this year. I don't think we want to pay him what he'd command to be a RB2/3 with us.

I wouldn't advocate giving him a big deal. But the RB market is notoriously soft and he demonstrated in 2018 that he isn't a feature back.

I doubt the Packers are looking for a bell cow. Regardless of who they sign/draft, they're going to get touches to Jones as well.

Coleman is interesting because he was super successful in the offense that Petals will install, and he would become the best pass catcher on the roster immediately.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Tevin Coleman make it out of ATL? Fat chance, and if so, for starter's money. He's got ATL dead to rights after Devonta Freeman went down (along with my fantasy season). Because of the split time his legs are relatively fresh still. I'm going to take a stab without looking at the market and say he will look for say, $7.5-$9M per?

There's absolutely no way the Packers should spend a significant amount of their available cap space on a free agent running back.

They must be targeting a RB high in the Draft then. I like him but we can find a suitable replacement in the Draft.

TJ Lang released by the Lions, even after he said he was willing to take a pay cut. Now he's contemplating retirement. Even if he doesn't start for us I feel Gute should pick up the phone and let him retire as a Packer. Start at vet minimum and see where we end up from there. As a Pro Bowler he's a no brainer depth signing at the least.

Gutekunst might be smart to use a day 3 pick on a running back but the team has more pressing needs to select one early.

Lang was a great player during his tenure in Green Bay but fans have to stop advocating bringing former players who aren't in their prime anymore.

The Broncos have released OL Billy Turner. Does anyone know much about him? He's still young (27), and is supposedly a pretty versatile guy who transitioned from guard to tackle out of necessity. From what I read, he struggled a bit early on in his career with the Dolphins but has improved dramatically with the Broncos to the point of being a steady player.

According to PFF Turner has been an average offensive lineman in both season he played a significant amount of snaps in (2015, '18). He has some versatilty having played left guard and right tackle last season.

Danny Amendola just released per Dolphins.. Replacement for Cobb??

Please, could we stop advocating to sign players past their prime.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

At some point you have to find a median. Players in their prime are going to cost money, we can only spend so much. Lang was a 2x Pro Bowler 2 seasons ago, which is twice as much as any of the back up OL we currently have on our roster. I'd drop at least one of our reserve OL in a heartbeat for him. We can still find youth in the Draft but like several positions on this team the cupboard can't continue to be bare. I don't think you're grasping the point I'm trying to make.

 

[PackAttack12]

The Packers have expressed interest in Chiefs franchised pass rusher Dee Ford, per Rapoport. The 49ers have also inquired about Ford.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

I'd rather the 49ers take him. If they did, that might remove them from the Bosa, Josh Allen sweepstakes. Not saying we would get them, but the longer they hang in the wind the better caliber player that could fall to 12th Overall and further if Gute decides to trade back and maybe get a pick or two out of it. This would be the best thing possible in my mock draft trade of us trading out of 12th to 17th with Cleveland.


EDIT - Bergman from NFL.com just reported Chiefs want a 2nd for him. I'm out at that price, unless we can somehow sign and ship Perry with some compensation back. On top of that, including the Draft Class and Ford that leaves us with $14M left, I'd rather we spread that around and fill more holes. Granted, with that $14M we could probably nab a S still but after that we're done. 49ers have almost twice the cap space, if Chiefs let Ford choose where he wants to go, I'm sure he'd choose 49ers because they can sign him to a longer deal upfront. Plus on the Chiefs end the 49ers have a higher 2nd Round pick than we do. I'm assuming Gute would have to package an additional 5th to close the gap.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Admittedly, I don't know enough about Dee Ford to know whether he is a top 5 EDGE guy or not, but for the sake of argument, let's say that he is. I will rely on the Packers to decide that.

Depending on what he wants for a new deal, a second round pick really isn't that bad of a deal for the guy. If you look at the recent history of players the Packers have landed with their 2nd round picks, doesn't seem like you are giving much up. So besides Davante Adams, Randall Cobb and Eddie Lacy, these are the players we have drafted in the 2nd round in the last 10 drafts. Adams would be about the only guy I would say was a 100% hit.

• Josh Jackson
• Kevin King
• Josh Jones
• Jason Spriggs
• Quinten Rollins
• Jarel Worthy
• Casey Hayward
• Michael Neal

Then there is the salary cost. First, a second rounder is going to cost the Packers around $1.6M/year. Signing a top 20 FA EDGE guy might cost the Packers less than Ford, but is still going to be in the $12-15M+ range.

If the Packers didn't have 2 first round picks, I would be a bit more hesitant. However, if Ford is as good as some are claiming, depending on what kind of money he is asking for, giving up that #45 pick wouldn't bother me.

Again, I don't know a lot about Ford and initially my gut says he isn't worth top 5 money, but if he is.......

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

My biggest thing is Ford is 30 going into his age 31 season. If he falls off a cliff 2 seasons from now we just gave up a 2nd for a 2 year rental. If we can take an edge rusher or anyone who pans out, we've got at least 5 seasons out of them before contract time, work out an extension and we got a player for say 8-9 years total. Can Ford play at this level for 5 seasons? Definitely possible, but this is one bet I don't want to take against Father Time.

I see what you're saying with history, but we need 3 Drafts out of Gute before we can really begin togauge what to expect from his talent acquisition skills. Jackson performed admirably for being a 2nd Rounder, I have high hopes for Gute in Draft 2.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

My biggest thing is Ford is 30 going into his age 31 season. If he falls off a cliff 2 seasons from now we just gave up a 2nd for a 2 year rental. If we can take an edge rusher or anyone who pans out, we've got at least 5 seasons out of them before contract time, work out an extension and we got a player for say 8-9 years total. Can Ford play at this level for 5 seasons? Definitely possible, but this is one bet I don't want to take against Father Time.

I see what you're saying with history, but we need 3 Drafts out of Gute before we can really begin togauge what to expect from his talent acquisition skills. Jackson performed admirably for being a 2nd Rounder, I have high hopes for Gute in Draft 2.

Actually, Ford turns 28 in 10 days, so age doesn't concern me too much. Khalil Mack is older than him for comparison. I just don't know how great this guy is. Could be the next Nick Perry or he could be even better than he was last season. Guys having career seasons in their contract years, definitely give me pause. I would love to be in on the conversations between Mike Smith and Gute. I have a feeling if the Packers actually are in the conversations about trading for Ford, Smith is confident that the Packers would be acquiring a good player.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

I stand corrected on his age then. But I agree about the contract season performance. I know it's not the rule but look what we got out of Perry....but all things considered I too don't know much about Ford as I rarely follow the Chiefs, even though I'm even stationed in Kansas now. But we can guarantee that this is a Mike Smith/Pettine trade. That's all I do like about it so I'm somewhat confident he will produce.

 

[OldSchool101]

Packers have shown recent interest in Dee Ford. This could be a defining pick. Fingers crossed.


https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019...ancisco-49ers-expressing-interest-in-dee-ford

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Steep price to pay (2nd rounder AND a big contract) but if Dee is legit I won't fault the team for trading for him. Hard to argue with > 10 sacks in his two healthy seasons and a probowl player who's in his prime.

If we're going to be a win now team, we make moves like this one.

 

[Heyjoe4]

1) Josh Gordon (WR)

2) Jadeveon Clowney (DL, OLB)

3) Tyrann Mathieu (S)

4) LaAdrian Waddle (RT)

5) Dante Fowler Jr. (DE)

6) Chance Warmack (RG)

7) Demetrius Harris (TE)

Inspired by:

https://clutchpoints.com/green-bay-packers-3-free-agents-to-target-in-2019/

Projected cap space in 2019: $47, 525, 500

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers/

Thoughts? Who would you like to see in Green and Gold next year?

Great list and the best part, it’s mostly doable. The only “big name” FA I’d like them to go after is Collins. But S is so deep in FA, they can hardly go wrong if he’s asking too much. Somebody is probably gonna pay him $13 or $14 mil, and that’s crazy. If they could get him for $10 mil, I’m in.

 

[Spanky]

Please, could we stop advocating to sign players past their prime.

Right, because the best team in the league never signs FA's past their prime.

The issue isn't signing players past their prime, it's how much you pay for those players.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Right, because the best team in the league never signs FA's past their prime.

The issue isn't signing players past their prime, it's how much you pay for those players.

Right, one could argue that Rodgers is past his prime. He'd be signed in a minute if he hit free agency.

If one's prime is so far beyond the average player, being just a little bit less is still valuable.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

At some point you have to find a median. Players in their prime are going to cost money, we can only spend so much. Lang was a 2x Pro Bowler 2 seasons ago, which is twice as much as any of the back up OL we currently have on our roster. I'd drop at least one of our reserve OL in a heartbeat for him. We can still find youth in the Draft but like several positions on this team the cupboard can't continue to be bare. I don't think you're grasping the point I'm trying to make.

You're right, I don't understand that anyone would believe signing Lang and Amendola would make the Packers any better.

EDIT - Bergman from NFL.com just reported Chiefs want a 2nd for him. I'm out at that price, unless we can somehow sign and ship Perry with some compensation back. On top of that, including the Draft Class and Ford that leaves us with $14M left, I'd rather we spread that around and fill more holes.

The Packers could significantly reduce Ford's cap hit for 2019 by signing him to a long-term contract.

Right, because the best team in the league never signs FA's past their prime.

The issue isn't signing players past their prime, it's how much you pay for those players.

The issue is signing older veterans that aren't past their prime, something the Patriots do a masterful job of.

 

[OldSchool101]

If we can structure contracts so that we land one trade and two through FA (or 3 through FA) we’d be better suited to attack the draft by trading around the board a little bit. I’d like to see us get 3 positions reinforced by draft day. Those would be 3 of OLB, WR, OG, Safety, RB. We ranked 32/32 teams in rushing attempts and that’s an awkward balance that didn’t work, especially for a unit that has some good success per attempt. We also need a dynamic Slot guy underneath (Humphrey’s). We need an established veteran S (Amos). We could use an upgrade at Edge (Ford).

 

[gopkrs]

If we can structure contracts so that we land one trade and two through FA (or 3 through FA) we’d be better suited to attack the draft by trading around the board a little bit. I’d like to see us get 3 positions reinforced by draft day. Those would be 3 of OLB, WR, OG, Safety, RB. We ranked 32/32 teams in rushing attempts and that’s an awkward balance that didn’t work, especially for a unit that has some good success per attempt. We also need also need a dynamic Slot guy underneath (Humphrey’s). We need an established veteran S (Amos). We could use an upgrade at Edge (Ford).

I would trade in the WR and RB and put OT in caps. I hope we get a Free Safety this week...and a really good one. A great free safety and Ford...And draft another pass rusher. Is that too much too ask?

 

[PackAttack12]

The Chiefs are releasing LB Justin Houston. They couldn’t find a taker at his 15m+ salary.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

My dream scenario

FAs- G Roger Saffold, S Adrian Amos (Tyrann Mathieu for plan B), one of Terell Suggs/Cameron Wake, CB Darqueze Dennard. Find a veteran RB that gets cut from now until Week 1 to show Jones/Jamaal the way.

Draft: Considering we need a lot of help I really don't want to trade up this year
12 Hockenson (Fant plan B) Iowa TE
30 Jaylon Ferguson Louisiana Tech Edge Rusher (17.5 sacks last year, 14.5 in 2016)
44 Marquise Brown Oklahoma WR. Safety maybe better for position need.
76 Preferably a safety
Rest of draft find depth at OL, entire defense, and backup QB


Draft Auburn kick returner/speed receiver Ryan Davis whenever you can.

Bring back Wilkerson and Jake Ryan on bargains. I'm worried Breeland will want to get paid a lot which could suck for us. No way on Perry the Fairy or Clay. Only because I don't like the free agent market I may be ok if Cobb comes back if we don't draft a reciever.

QB AR, Drafted guy
RB Jones, Jamaal, veteran guy
WR Adams, Marquise Brown, Allison, ESB, MVS, Kumerow, Lazard (very impressive group if they stay healthy), J'Mon?
TE Hockenson, Graham, Tonyan
OL Bakh, Lane, Linsley, Saffold, Bulaga. Backups a drafted guy or 2, McCray (preferably not Spriggs)
DL Clark, Daniels, Wilkerson, Lowry, Adams
OLB Ferguson, Wake/Suggs, Fackrell, Gilbert
ILB Blake, Ryan, Burks, maybe drafted guy.
CB Jaire, Josh Jackson, Darqueze Dennard, maybe drafted guy
S Adrian Amos, 3rd rounder, Josh Jones (NO BRICE!)
K Crosby (maybe)
P JK Scott
KR Ryan Davis

Kind of weak on defenive depth especially with the secondary but most important thing is keeping AR healthy.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Chiefs are releasing LB Justin Houston. They couldn’t find a taker at his 15m+ salary.

I liked hearing that. One more FA EDGE guy on the market, which means one more available for the Packers. Not that I have an opinion on whether they should sign him or not. Guessing, this means they will probably keep Ford.

 

[OldSchool101]

I would trade in the WR and RB and put OT in caps.

If we work things correctly and get veteran OG help early we could then bring on an OT to groom behind Bulaga with one of our 1st 3 selections day one-two..then a second OL with experience at both G/OT in the 1st 3 selections day three
I’d like to finish with 1 upper echelon Tackle to take Bulagas spot in 2020 and 2 Guards (1 FA/1Round four would be ideal). We already tendered McCray and Spriggs is under a contract year, so we’d have plenty of competition here. We MUST protect Aaron Rodgers or everything else is futile.
That also leaves 3 of the top 4 selections for other needs and 5 remaining day three selections to boot.

While we all have our own ideas of being armchair GMs, I’ll be happy with any scenario that notably improves our O line in pass protection both in the now and going forward and improves our D run support, which was embarrassing throughout the 2018 season.

 

[Dantés]

I've been thinking this weekend-- we might be sleeping on a need at running back.

Petals has not hidden the ball-- he wants a rushing attack. And his pedigree suggests that he's telling the truth about that.

We all love Aaron Jones, but he's not really proven as a feature back and he hasn't been a dynamic receiving threat. Plus Petals has talked about a committee.

Jamaal Williams is a JAG. He plays super hard and can do everything, but he lacks the juice to be a guy that you really want to give touches to. He's an ideal 3rd back.

From what I can tell, this draft class kind of sucks at RB. They might be inclined to pursue a veteran.

Tevin Coleman makes the most sense to me. Mark Ingram can still play as well.

 

[brandon2348]

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If you want a returner in the 2nd round range, Parris Campbell is your guy.

Someone said that back in December.

 

[OldSchool101]

I've been thinking this weekend-- we might be sleeping on a need at running back.

Petals has not hidden the ball-- he wants a rushing attack. And his pedigree suggests that he's telling the truth about that.

We all love Aaron Jones, but he's not really proven as a feature back and he hasn't been a dynamic receiving threat. Plus Petals has talked about a committee.

Jamaal Williams is a JAG. He plays super hard and can do everything, but he lacks the juice to be a guy that you really want to give touches to. He's an ideal 3rd back.

From what I can tell, this draft class kind of sucks at RB. They might be inclined to pursue a veteran.

Tevin Coleman makes the most sense to me. Mark Ingram can still play as well.

To add to that, it’s also a position that has both of its 2 primary RBs contracts expiring simultaneously after the 2020 season. The planning outlook generally starts at 3 years so trust me when I say they’ve already addressed that issue behind closed doors and it is part of the larger plan this year or next.
Secondly, It’s a rarity for a RB to play all 16 games, we have no real concrete depth.
3rd, it’s a position that doesn’t require large amounts of cap expenditure