Free Agents you would like to see sign with Green Bay in 2019?

[swhitset]

I think Barr would do very well here

Rodgers might appreciate not having to avoid him twice a year lol.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

As it would seem that Petals wants to build an offense in the model of Kyle Shanahan's, I'd expect them to try to find a player similar to Kyle Jusczcyk-- a FB/HB/TE type player who can lead block and catch.

I don't know enough about how a lot of the UFA tight ends excel. Ryan Hewitt strikes me as a poor man's Jusczcyk.

Not a free agent, but a guy I would look at in the draft (5th-7th rd) is Wisconsin FB Alec Ingold. The guy is a load (6'2, 242#) coming out of the backfield, blocks well and seems to just sneak out of the backfield and catch key passes and has a nose for the 1st down marker and end zone.

His Stats probably won't Wow you, but he is a smart instinctive Football player.

2018: 26 carries 143 yards 5.5 ave. 6 TD's
5 receptions 93 yds. 18.6 ave. 1 TD.

4 years playing (36 games), 103 carries, 14 receptions, 21 TD's and 0 fumbles.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

As it would seem that Petals wants to build an offense in the model of Kyle Shanahan's, I'd expect them to try to find a player similar to Kyle Jusczcyk-- a FB/HB/TE type player who can lead block and catch.

I don't know enough about how a lot of the UFA tight ends excel. Ryan Hewitt strikes me as a poor man's Jusczcyk.

Maxx Williams might present a decent option as he's an above average blocker and can catch the ball as well.

 

[Dantés]

Maxx Williams might present a decent option as he's an above average blocker and can catch the ball as well.

Did they use Williams as a lead blocker at all?

I wonder the same thing about Luke Stocker.

 

[Dantés]

Not a free agent, but a guy I would look at in the draft (5th-7th rd) is Wisconsin FB Alec Ingold. The guy is a load (6'2, 242#) coming out of the backfield, blocks well and seems to just sneak out of the backfield and catch key passes and has a nose for the 1st down marker and end zone.

His Stats probably won't Wow you, but he is a smart instinctive Football player.

2018: 26 carries 143 yards 5.5 ave. 6 TD's
5 receptions 93 yds. 18.6 ave. 1 TD.

4 years playing (36 games), 103 carries, 14 receptions, 21 TD's and 0 fumbles.

Is he enough of an H-back type to compare at all with a guy like Juszczyk?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Is he enough of an H-back type to compare at all with a guy like Juszczyk?

Alec played more of a true fullback role, but I can see him in an H-Back role as well. I'm not familiar enough with Juszczyk to make a fair comparison. Physically, Ingold is an inch taller and similar weight and body style. Not sure about how his combine numbers will look in comparison. Looking at Juszczk's stats, I would say Ingold could be more productive carrying the ball and similar with receiving. He isn't a polished route runner and ran mostly wheel routes out of the backfield. However, he has shown to have good hands, high Football IQ and just a knack for slipping through or running guys over. His pass protection skills are very good.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/28/2019-nfl-draft-player-profile-alec-ingold/

 

[Dantés]

Alec played more of a true fullback role, but I can see him in an H-Back role as well. I'm not familiar enough with Juszczyk to make a fair comparison. Physically, Ingold is an inch taller and similar weight and body style. Not sure about how his combine numbers will look in comparison. Looking at Juszczk's stats, I would say Ingold could be more productive carrying the ball and similar with receiving. He isn't a polished route runner and ran mostly wheel routes out of the backfield. However, he has shown to have good hands, high Football IQ and just a knack for slipping through or running guys over. His pass protection skills are very good.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/28/2019-nfl-draft-player-profile-alec-ingold/

In the offense, it seems they covet a guy who can lead block but has TE skills in the receiving game-- i.e. can pressure the seam and run wheels/angles out of the backfield. Ability to carry the football seems to be a non-factor.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In the offense, it seems they covet a guy who can lead block but has TE skills in the receiving game-- i.e. can pressure the seam and run wheels/angles out of the backfield. Ability to carry the football seems to be a non-factor.

All things I believe Ingold will provide a team, plus he should be a good special teams player. These are the utility players I like seeing picked up in the 6th and 7th round. High Football IQ, goes all out on every play and can do a variety of things.

 

[gbgary]

just saw a report that ryan tanehill is expected to be cut. there's your high quality back-up for rodgers if you're willing to spend $10m+ . someone will sign him to start though and it'll be around $20 probably.

 

[PackAttack12]

just saw a report that ryan tanehill is expected to be cut. there's your high quality back-up for rodgers if you're willing to spend $10m+ . someone will sign him to start though and it'll be around $20 probably.

Yeah it's tough to justify having all that money tied up in two quarterbacks.

 

[Greg Poplawski]

Clowney, Mathieu, Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown. I know there are some ‘tude issues with the receivers but winning usually quells the attitude. Remember the Pack did Bring in Andre Rison and there were red flags all over his attitude, he wasn’t an issue and he helped win that SB with Favre and Holmgren. Need strong leadership to do it though, don’t know enough about our coaches to say that it would work out well. I do know that ARodg would have a plethora of veteran quality receivers to sling the ball to. Who do you cover, Adams, Dez, Brown, Kumerow, Graham, Eq, Tonyan, MVS, Moore???

 

[Poppa San]

Clowney, Mathieu, Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown. I know there are some ‘tude issues with the receivers but winning usually quells the attitude. Remember the Pack did Bring in Andre Rison and there were red flags all over his attitude, he wasn’t an issue and he helped win that SB with Favre and Holmgren. Need strong leadership to do it though, don’t know enough about our coaches to say that it would work out well. I do know that ARodg would have a plethora of veteran quality receivers to sling the ball to. Who do you cover, Adams, Dez, Brown, Kumerow, Graham, Eq, Tonyan, MVS, Moore???

If you're that high on the guys you got, you don't need any others. Dez is by now a has been. I have no problem with AB except $$$$$$$ both in trading for a player at a flush position and paying the big money.

 

[brandon2348]

Clowney, Mathieu, Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown. I know there are some ‘tude issues with the receivers but winning usually quells the attitude. Remember the Pack did Bring in Andre Rison and there were red flags all over his attitude, he wasn’t an issue and he helped win that SB with Favre and Holmgren. Need strong leadership to do it though, don’t know enough about our coaches to say that it would work out well. I do know that ARodg would have a plethora of veteran quality receivers to sling the ball to. Who do you cover, Adams, Dez, Brown, Kumerow, Graham, Eq, Tonyan, MVS, Moore???

It's funny you bring up Rison. I have heard stories from Holmgren how he would try to board the plane half naked etc. etc. but Holmgren kept him under control and got what we needed out of him. We definitely need to do some more of that but like you said we need the correct leadership that can handle some of these guys.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

just saw a report that ryan tanehill is expected to be cut. there's your high quality back-up for rodgers if you're willing to spend $10m+ . someone will sign him to start though and it'll be around $20 probably.

I have been beating the drum of getting a quality backup for years now. However, now I am not quite so sure the timing is right. IF the Packers are truly Super Bowl contenders in 2019, then yes, but if they aren't, save the money.

Given how the team looked this past season, it would take a big jump to be right at the top again and that is with some good FA moves, a good draft and current players improving....oh and #12 staying healthy. If Rodgers goes down in 2019, it probably wouldn't matter who his backup is, 2019 is looking more like a rebuild/retool season.

 

[brandon2348]

I have been beating the drum of getting a quality backup for years now. However, now I am not quite so sure the timing is right. IF the Packers are truly Super Bowl contenders in 2019, then yes, but if they aren't, save the money.

Given how the team looked this past season, it would take a big jump to be right at the top again and that is with some good FA moves, a good draft and current players improving....oh and #12 staying healthy. If Rodgers goes down in 2019, it probably wouldn't matter who his backup is, 2019 is looking more like a rebuild/retool season.

I don't think you can really do a full "rebuild/retool" with a 35 year old QB with a near 30 million dollar cap hit. The show could be over at anytime. The urgency just goes to higher and higher levels.

Its more like "panic mode."

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't think you can really do a full "rebuild/retool" with a 35 year old QB with a near 30 million dollar cap hit. The show could be over at anytime. The urgency just goes to higher and higher levels.

Its more like "panic mode."

How about we call it "Re-Pack" then?

Panic mode is dangerous and I hope Gute doesn't hit that button.

As optimistic as I want to be for 2019, I have to be realistic too. The Packers were not a very good team in 2018. Blame some of it on MM, all the other coaches that got fired and AR's knee injury, but you also have to admit to yourself that talent wise, they just didn't have it. I think a new coaching staff, a new playbook and 10-20 new players is a big change and yes, it could move the team in the right direction, but I don't think it will be a full turn around for a year or two.

 

[brandon2348]

How about we call it "Re-Pack" then?

Panic mode is dangerous and I hope Gute doesn't hit that button.

As optimistic as I want to be for 2019, I have to be realistic too. The Packers were not a very good team in 2018. Blame some of it on MM, all the other coaches that got fired and AR's knee injury, but you also have to admit to yourself that talent wise, they just didn't have it. I think a new coaching staff, a new playbook and 10-20 new players is a big change and yes, it could move the team in the right direction, but I don't think it will be a full turn around for a year or two.

That would be ideal but would be projecting Rodgers to be 38 and that can be just as dangerous because nobody knows for sure how long he can play at an elite level or stay healthy as he gets older.. The probabilities go higher and higher of something going wrong as he gets older. You either trade Rodgers(while his value is high) or go all in now.

This is the position the Packers have put themselves in. I belive they are 3-4 players away on offense from being elite. The defense is another story and a harder fix but a couple impact players could be enough to allow them to make run.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The probabilities go higher and higher of something going wrong as he gets older. You either trade Rodgers(while his value is high) or go all in now.

I think the "Trade Rodgers" ship sailed when they signed his new contract. Going to have to ride this one out awhile

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Did they use Williams as a lead blocker at all?

I wonder the same thing about Luke Stocker.

The Ravens lined Williams up as a fullback on 114 of his 391 snaps in 2018. I have no idea on how many plays he was used as a lead blocker though.

I think the "Trade Rodgers" ship sailed when they signed his new contract. Going to have to ride this one out awhile

There never should have been such a ship to begin with

 

[Reggie White Cheese]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25944721/bold-2019-nfl-offseason-predictions-all-32-teams#gb

Fire up the debate again for Bell... Bold off season predictions from the four letter network...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25944721/bold-2019-nfl-offseason-predictions-all-32-teams#gb

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Yeah, I have seen that a few times and I just can't see it happening. Bell wants way too much money and the Packers have far greater needs at other positions to be blowing that kind of money on a RB.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25944721/bold-2019-nfl-offseason-predictions-all-32-teams#gb

Fire up the debate again for Bell... Bold off season predictions from the four letter network...

The Packers shouldn't be interested in any of the quitters out of Pittsburgh.

 

[thequick12]

Like to see 2 of this group signed
Jadaveon clowney approx 16 million per over 4
Dee Ford approx 14 million per over 4
Anthony Barr approx 12 million per over 4

Along with
Earl Thomas approx 10 million per over 3

If you get that done you're pretty much free to draft the best guy regardless of position and that's how you draft great players consistently

 

[HardRightEdge]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25944721/bold-2019-nfl-offseason-predictions-all-32-teams#gb

Fire up the debate again for Bell... Bold off season predictions from the four letter network...

If PFF is close in projecting 4 yrs., $60 mil, $33 mil guaranteed in a Bell contract, that's a big pill to swallow with a huge dead cap overhang leading to major regrets if, like many running backs, he hits an early wall in what will be his 6th. season.

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburg...LeVeon-Bells-best-free-agent-offer-128773441/

Spending this kind of money on a RB is not an efficient use of resources and strikes me as a short term solution to longer term issues. It would be better go day one or two on a RB and use this cap to shore up another position or two, though I can't say I'd endorse that move either.

How short did Gutekunst really come up with Mack? I'd surmise way short, in a "wait, what!" moment when Oakland told him the offer he'd have to top.

About the only good thing I could say about such a signing is Bell's year off after high touch seasons might have refreshed his legs deferring the wall. It would be a "win now" move without the complementary horses with a big cap overhang in 2020 and beyond.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Like to see 2 of this group signed
Jadaveon clowney approx 16 million per over 4
Dee Ford approx 14 million per over 4
Anthony Barr approx 12 million per over 4

Along with
Earl Thomas approx 10 million per over 3

If you get that done you're pretty much free to draft the best guy regardless of position and that's how you draft great players consistently

I wouldn't be excited about the Packers signing Barr. While the other moves would be risky there's a chance the team would be significantly improved with either one of them.