I think he went over last season when Oakland forced his hand with Richardson.
Good catch, Poppa San. In the end it comes down to how valuable is a guy considered to be to a particular team.
I think he went over last season when Oakland forced his hand with Richardson.
Love the thought of Green on the Packers, but afraid his price tag will be too high.
If you want an impact player at the position then you need to be willing to pay for it. Greg Olsen averages $7.5 million per year and his deal is a little old. Charles Clay just signed a deal worth $7.6 million per year which is more up to date with the market for TEs, and he has known knee problems. So would it be terrible to sign the guy for a deal that averages $6-7 million per year (with maybe half guaranteed)? With the way the cap is going that would probably be an ok deal.
That's what Ertz just signed for, $8.5Mil/yr. and it puts him #5 on the top-money-for-TE list behind Gronk, Thomas, Kelce & Graham. The Franchise Tag is expected to be around $9.053Mil . The next 8 highest paid TE's are between $7-$7.6Mil/yr., which is what Finley was making on his 2 yr/$15Mil deal in 2012/13. Is the TE position worth $7+Mil/yr. assuming Nelson comes back strong & the offense clicks as it had been?Just a wild guess, but I'd guess start at $8.5 M per for Green, 6M for Trevathan. A lot depends on how it's structured, especially guaranteed money.
I could see him drafting somebody to develop into this type of TE, somebody like a Bostic, and then hoping for the best 2-3 years down the road.
Kennard Backman already fits that description. The Packers need a guy capable of immediately starting in place of Rodgers at the position.
So far, Backman is Bostic 2.o -- seen and not heard other than that ST gaffe. That play made me wonder how fast he is. He looked really slow trailing the runner on that fake play. It surprised me a bit because I had thought he was much faster than that. Anyone else notice that, too, or were my eyes deceiving me?Kennard Backman already fits that description. The Packers need a guy capable of immediately starting in place of Rodgers at the position.
So far, Backman is Bostic 2.o -- seen and not heard other than that ST gaffe. That play made me wonder how fast he is. He looked really slow trailing the runner on that fake play. It surprised me a bit because I had thought he was much faster than that. Anyone else notice that, too, or were my eyes deceiving me?
I'm curious to see what the new TE coach can do with the incumbents.Backman is significantly faster than Rodgers but it seems like he isn´t ready to contribute in the NFL as of now. Losing contain on a fake punt for sure doesn´t help him climb the depth chart.
I'm curious to see what the new TE coach can do with the incumbents.
Angelichio has had a lot of success coaching tight ends in Cleveland but he won´t be able to make Rodgers any faster. We need someone at the position capable of stretching defenses.
What do people think about Coby Fleener? With both Fleener and Allen being FA's, I doubt the Colts sign both but lean towards trying to keep Fleener. He is 6' 6", faster they Richard Rodgers, had a productive 2014, but saw his numbers drop last year possibly due to the QB situation in Indy.
I hope Angelichio looks at RR and doesn't write him off though either. He has sure hands and as I've stated before his awareness to read defenses and find those shallow gaps (all the farther he can get to haha) is above average I'd say for his experience. Not too mention he and Aaron seem to have good chemistry. Short patterns he can do well with, block/shed and turn plays he can excel at as well. What he'll never do though is garner attention from the Defense which can be a weapon for short yardage pass plays to pick up 4-9 yards.
Is he better than our current options, I'd say yes. Is he worthy of discussing contract with, I'd say yes.
But I too would understand an organizations pause on him as well.
So far, Backman is Bostic 2.o -- seen and not heard other than that ST gaffe. That play made me wonder how fast he is. He looked really slow trailing the runner on that fake play. It surprised me a bit because I had thought he was much faster than that. Anyone else notice that, too, or were my eyes deceiving me?
These are all reasons I brought Fleener up and seeing him as a possible fit in GB.
1. Relatively young and good size
2. Athletic and good football IQ
3. Has some speed
4. Has shown some good things and IMO hasn't reached his potential
5. Maybe with the wrong team and needs a second chance
6. Won't be overly pricey
Biggest knock on him that I can find is having the case of the dropsies on occasion. Confidence can help take care of that.
His scouting report when he came out of college:
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/01/28/coby-fleener-scouting-report/
I'm kind of excited to see what he can do. He had a rough camp I guess to start, and at the end what it was put up or shut up time, I remember him making some pretty good catches in the final couple pre-season games. Young, raw, but made some athletic catches. Low round pick, not likely to have a big immediate impact, even Finley took 2-3 seasons before we got to see some semblance of "consistency" (which I'd argue he never fully achieved) and he was a 3rd rounder I think. Not that i'm expecting Backmen to turn the league on it's head either next year, but he has some tools to grow into a nice player. But it doesn't happen overnightUhhmmm....he's a rookie sixth round pick. What exactly were you expecting out of him? Because I'm gonna guess that any disappointment you feel regarding Backman is more an issue of expectations rather than actual performance.
I wouldn't be shocked if Fleener is more expensive than Green. Fleener is a former second-round pick who has shown more on the field than Green. I actually think I would prefer the Packers look at a cheaper Green rather than Fleener.
Angelichio has had a lot of success coaching tight ends in Cleveland but he won´t be able to make Rodgers any faster. We need someone at the position capable of stretching defenses.