Free Agency: TE's

[Pkrjones]

I think the following FA TE's would be sizable upgrades to RR & Quarless, and all have good size & speed:
- Ladarius Green
- Coby Fleener
- Josh Hill (edited and added after initial post)
- Zach Sudfeld (coming off of August ACL)

None performed up to expectations but that's more on their teams not utilizing their strengths. Would MM if they were in GB?

Really like Hunter Henry but would take our 1st rounder and think we could use an ILB or OT more with that pick.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I think the following FA TE's would be sizable upgrades to RR & Quarless, and all have good size & speed:
- Ladarius Green
- Coby Fleener
- Zach Sudfeld (coming off of August ACL)

None performed up to expectations but that's more on their teams not utilizing their strengths. Would MM if they were in GB?

Really like Hunter Henry but would take our 1st rounder and think we could use an ILB or OT more with that pick.

If Coby wasn't always injured and didn't drop so many balls, I'd be all for bringing him in.

 

[Ace]

A buddy of mine just brought something up that I hadn't even considered, and that's the idea of going after Jimmy Graham is the Seahawks don't retain him this offseason. It would be right in line with the 2 other big free agent signings (Wood and Peppers) TT has made in that it wouldn't factor into compensatory pick compensation.

 

[Mondio]

If he's healed, I think they keep him and get him integrated to their offense. If he's not, they let him go, and if he's not, how much value do we put on him? People can recover from that injury, and if he does, I think Seattle is prepared to keep him around. Otherwise why trade for him in the first place?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I find it funny how "Free Agency" and "Packers" are in the same discussion.

What? Its the same thing as talking about bats and their daytime activities, isn't it?

 

[Ace]

If he's healed, I think they keep him and get him integrated to their offense. If he's not, they let him go, and if he's not, how much value do we put on him? People can recover from that injury, and if he does, I think Seattle is prepared to keep him around. Otherwise why trade for him in the first place?

I'm not saying it's a good possibility, and yes they did give up quite a bit to get him. But, it wasn't working out even when he was healthy, it costs them nothing to release him, and they can use the cap savings to re-build that O-Line that is falling apart and could get worse if Okung isn't healthy and/or doesn't resign. Seeing what these TE's are signing for though, he'd more than likely price himself out of here anyways. I just thought it was an interesting idea regardless of how unlikely it may be.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If the Packers don't go FA route to bring in another TE, which is likely, I would like to see Hunter Henry as a Packer and if he is gone and Nick Vannett is available in the 3rd, I like his potential.

Call me a Badger Homer, but another guy that intrigues me is Tanner McEvoy. He would have to bulk up and learn how to block, but the guy does everything, he is 6' 6", has decent speed and can catch the ball. Obviously a late round and definitely a priority UDFA, but I think he will get drafted.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

A buddy of mine just brought something up that I hadn't even considered, and that's the idea of going after Jimmy Graham is the Seahawks don't retain him this offseason. It would be right in line with the 2 other big free agent signings (Wood and Peppers) TT has made in that it wouldn't factor into compensatory pick compensation.

This week John Schneider said on a Seattle radio show that he can't envision a scenario in which the Seahawks cut ties with Graham this offseason.

 

[Mondio]

I'm not saying it's a good possibility, and yes they did give up quite a bit to get him. But, it wasn't working out even when he was healthy, it costs them nothing to release him, and they can use the cap savings to re-build that O-Line that is falling apart and could get worse if Okung isn't healthy and/or doesn't resign. Seeing what these TE's are signing for though, he'd more than likely price himself out of here anyways. I just thought it was an interesting idea regardless of how unlikely it may be.

The 9 million in savings or whatever it was, is big that they get by releasing him, but i have to believe they factored that in when they initially brought him on board. That's why i'd be more concerned if they let him go. What do they know that we don't? But man, would a mostly healthy Graham be nice for this team.

 

[Packerlifer]

Amazing how a position of such tradition in Green Bay has become so underwhelming.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-eve...ts-share/25664550-1547-449d-acae-f2f02cae6223

 

[sschind]

Call me a Badger Homer, but another guy that intrigues me is Tanner McEvoy. He would have to bulk up and learn how to block, but the guy does everything, he is 6' 6", has decent speed and can catch the ball. Obviously a late round and definitely a priority UDFA, but I think he will get drafted.

You mean he does everything that a small guy who can't block does.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You mean he does everything that a small guy who can't block does.

LOL.....well at 6' 6" he is hardly "small", but yes, he is definitely a weight room project at TE. Every once in awhile i look back at guys we took rounds 6-7 and barely remember who the heck they even were. McEvoy would possibly end up being the same, but I like his diversity and potential.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Joe Schobert, OLB is another Badger that could go just about anywhere in the draft from round 2 on. The guy is a beast at sacking QB's and making big plays for loss. But lacks bulk and some speed. Just like Chris Borland, his motor is always going, has a nose for the football and a high football IQ, so if he hits the weights, he could be one really good NFL linebacker for someone.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I think the following FA TE's would be sizable upgrades to RR & Quarless, and all have good size & speed:
- Ladarius Green
- Coby Fleener
- Josh Hill (edited and added after initial post)
- Zach Sudfeld (coming off of August ACL)

None performed up to expectations but that's more on their teams not utilizing their strengths. Would MM if they were in GB?

Really like Hunter Henry but would take our 1st rounder and think we could use an ILB or OT more with that pick.

Ladarius Green. the guy will be all of 26 next year and he's got all the prototypical measurables that teams want and he's proven he can do it, he just needs to be on a team that doesn't have Gates on it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ladarius Green. the guy will be all of 26 next year and he's got all the prototypical measurables that teams want and he's proven he can do it, he just needs to be on a team that doesn't have Gates on it.

Love the thought of Green on the Packers, but afraid his price tag will be too high.

 

[PackerDNA]

Love the thought of Green on the Packers, but afraid his price tag will be too high.

How high will the price tag be by standing pat at the position?

 

[Half Empty]

$739,004 - RRodger's contract.

I think I know where you're going with this, but I couldn't help myself.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

How high will the price tag be by standing pat at the position?

Better question for you: You are TT, put that hat on......."How much are you willing to pay for Green?" Clock ticking, I need an answer before the bidding starts.

 

[PackerDNA]

Better question for you: You are TT, put that hat on......."How much are you willing to pay for Green?" Clock ticking, I need an answer before the bidding starts.

If you really want a guy, whatever it takes, whatever the market dictates. I've read that TT goes into FA with set numbers on guys, and won't budge over that. If the bidding gets wacky, fine. If it's the other extreme- refusing to at all go over his number- not so fine.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If you really want a guy, whatever it takes, whatever the market dictates. I've read that TT goes into FA with set numbers on guys, and won't budge over that. If the bidding gets wacky, fine. If it's the other extreme- refusing to at all go over his number- not so fine.

Maybe after he retires/fired (*gulp*) TT will publish a book and share some of his spread sheets with us on how he has valued FA's during his tenure. It would be a fascinating read and even more fascinating to see it after the fact to see how he did. Maybe some stories on FA's he lost out on and why.

It would make sense that he has a spread sheet made up of FA's he covets and their approximate value to the Packers as probably do all the GM's. But take Green for an example, if TT has his value to the Packers at $7M where does he say "nahhh.....that is too much" $8M, $9M?" If you are correct and he has a line drawn in the sand, with no wiggle room, then I agree, he needs more flexibility, but how much?

But I am curious, how much would you pay Green?

I am wondering the same thing about Danny Trevathan, since I think he will be a FA that the Broncos may have to let walk.

 

[Mondio]

I'm still not convinced Green will even be an option

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm still not convinced Green will even be an option

Me either, I don't think SD will let him walk. Even if they do, we won't be in the conversation at the end.

 

[Mondio]

Wherever SD moves to, or stays at, I have to believe that building a competitive team is in the their best interest. Nothing puts butts in the seats like winning. GB is an anomaly in that regard, but for the rest of the league winning sells tickets. Winning gets new stadiums. Gates may have sold jerseys, but I think he'll more likely be available than Green. That's if Green is, what everyone else thinks he is. I haven't watched enough to know, but i just don't see how a team would let a good young guy go to keep a guy, that I think is almost done. Regardless of what city they want this team to be in the future.

 

[PackerDNA]

Maybe after he retires/fired (*gulp*) TT will publish a book and share some of his spread sheets with us on how he has valued FA's during his tenure. It would be a fascinating read and even more fascinating to see it after the fact to see how he did. Maybe some stories on FA's he lost out on and why.

It would make sense that he has a spread sheet made up of FA's he covets and their approximate value to the Packers as probably do all the GM's. But take Green for an example, if TT has his value to the Packers at $7M where does he say "nahhh.....that is too much" $8M, $9M?" If you are correct and he has a line drawn in the sand, with no wiggle room, then I agree, he needs more flexibility, but how much?

But I am curious, how much would you pay Green?

I am wondering the same thing about Danny Trevathan, since I think he will be a FA that the Broncos may have to let walk.

Just a wild guess, but I'd guess start at $8.5 M per for Green, 6M for Trevathan. A lot depends on how it's structured, especially guaranteed money.

 

[Poppa San]

If you really want a guy, whatever it takes, whatever the market dictates. I've read that TT goes into FA with set numbers on guys, and won't budge over that. If the bidding gets wacky, fine. If it's the other extreme- refusing to at all go over his number- not so fine.

I think he went over last season when Oakland forced his hand with Richardson.