Free Agency: Packers Should Green Bay Pursue?

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Certainly their most dynamic offensive player....Some might argue that Dalvin Cook is their best. We have seen the Vikings struggle mightily when he hasn't been available, or when teams scheme to shut him down.

Minnesota will have to replace Diggs somehow this off-season - Their offense as presently constituted won't measure up.

Dalvin Cook is ridiculously overrated. He and Aaron Jones are essentially comparable players.
 
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Overrated by whom? I would argue that both players you mentioned are essential components to their teams offenses.

There are a lot of media pundits who talk about Cook being one of the best backs in the league.

I would argue that Diggs is easily the better and more valuable player.
 

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There are a lot of media pundits who talk about Cook being one of the best backs in the league.

I would argue that Diggs is easily the better and more valuable player.

Given Cook's injury history that is hard to argue. The Vikings are in a tough spot because if they dont lock up cook long-term they have so few weapons on offense but locking up an injury prone running back who will demad a lot of money is incredibly risky
 

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There are a lot of media pundits who talk about Cook being one of the best backs in the league.

I would argue that Diggs is easily the better and more valuable player.


Both arguments are legitimate, IMHO.

Take away either one from the Vikings offense, and they are considerably compromised.
 
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Both arguments are legitimate, IMHO.

Take away either one from the Vikings offense, and they are considerably compromised.

I don't know about that.

Diggs accounted for 21% of Cousins' completion, a whopping 31% of his passing yardage, and 23% of his touchdowns. There is no replacement for him on the roster.

Cook's backup, Mattison, actually averaged a higher YPC on 100 carries, and a high YPR.
 

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I don't know about that.

Diggs accounted for 21% of Cousins' completion, a whopping 31% of his passing yardage, and 23% of his touchdowns. There is no replacement for him on the roster.

Cook's backup, Mattison, actually averaged a higher YPC on 100 carries, and a high YPR.

I'm with Dantes, in this era of the NFL RBs while maybe not entirely 100% replaceable are shown time and time again to be for sure replaceable.
 

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Dalvin Cook is ridiculously overrated. He and Aaron Jones are essentially comparable players.

I hate the Vikings, hate FSU players (I'm a Gator), and especially hate Cook (he de-committed from UF) but even I have to admit that Cook is one of the best RBs in the NFL. So is Jones. Just because the Packers found a much better value in Jones doesn't mean that Cooks is overrated, it just means that Jones was REALLY underrated. Cook is a top-7 RB in the NFL and if he was healthier he would be a top-4 RB. That being said, I'll take the fifth round Jones for value.
 

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I hate the Vikings, hate FSU players (I'm a Gator), and especially hate Cook (he de-committed from UF) but even I have to admit that Cook is one of the best RBs in the NFL. So is Jones. Just because the Packers found a much better value in Jones doesn't mean that Cooks is overrated, it just means that Jones was REALLY underrated. Cook is a top-7 RB in the NFL and if he was healthier he would be a top-4 RB. That being said, I'll take the fifth round Jones for value.

I don't believe Dantes is saying he is overrated, he's merely arguing which is more replaceable between Diggs and Him. I argue nearly any WR#1 is much harder to replace in this era of the NFL than a RB#1 with maybe rare exceptions of teams like Tennesse and Henry which literally don't care about passing as much as the rest of the league.
 

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Back to the topic, my list of free agents the Packers should be looking at right now includes:

  • Robby Anderson - reasoning, d'uh
  • Emmanuel Sanders - short term he could be a nice bridge for younger receivers to develop
  • Eric Ebron - elite receiving TE who could help open the offense up for relatively cheap
  • Tre Boston - Very underrated free safety who would allow Savage to play more slot CB if the team needs it
  • Delanie Walker - only if he's cheap but he was one of the best TEs in the NFL prior to being injured the last 2 years
  • Mackensie Alexander - not an elite slot corner, but very good, and, importantly, will be cheap
 

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I don't believe Dantes is saying he is overrated, he's merely arguing which is more replaceable between Diggs and Him. I argue nearly any WR#1 is much harder to replace in this era of the NFL than a RB#1 with maybe rare exceptions of teams like Tennesse and Henry which literally don't care about passing as much as the rest of the league.

Not to nitpick but his actual quote was, "Dalvin Cook is ridiculously overrated". Now, to that point, I would agree that the RB position overall is overrated in today's NFL.
 

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Robby and Emmanuel you can remove unless we cut someone. Ain't fiscally possible without them deciding to take a pay cut they won't need to anywhere else. Ebron is even possibly too salty honestly given TE market...Graham gets $8M a year Olsen $7M....and I'd argue Ebron could make a case for same at least if not more than them.
 

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Not to nitpick but his actual quote was, "Dalvin Cook is ridiculously overrated". Now, to that point, I would agree that the RB position overall is overrated in today's NFL.

Sorry I missed that, in which case I only partially stand with Dantes :D which feels more normal LOL (love you Dantes!)
 
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I hate the Vikings, hate FSU players (I'm a Gator), and especially hate Cook (he de-committed from UF) but even I have to admit that Cook is one of the best RBs in the NFL. So is Jones. Just because the Packers found a much better value in Jones doesn't mean that Cooks is overrated, it just means that Jones was REALLY underrated. Cook is a top-7 RB in the NFL and if he was healthier he would be a top-4 RB. That being said, I'll take the fifth round Jones for value.

Cook is overrated and Jones is underrated. Both are true.
 

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There are a lot of media pundits who talk about Cook being one of the best backs in the league.

I would argue that Diggs is easily the better and more valuable player.


I remember how awful Minnesota's offense looked without Cook in their home game against Green Bay last season. They got ten points early on short fields thanks to turnovers, and never threatened to score again for the rest of the game. Diggs accounted for their only touchdown.

Just my opinion, of course, but I believe for the Vikings to have long-term success on offense, they need a healthy Dalvin Cook (or someone very much like him).
 

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Cook is overrated and Jones is underrated. Both are true.


That's a factor of the media. Green Bay is used to being 'snubbed".

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I would say both players are essential to their respective teams offenses.
 

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I remember how awful Minnesota's offense looked without Cook in their home game against Green Bay last season. They got ten points early on short fields thanks to turnovers, and never threatened to score again for the rest of the game. Diggs accounted for their only touchdown.

Just my opinion, of course, but I believe for the Vikings to have long-term success on offense, they need a healthy Dalvin Cook (or someone very much like him).

They need a good OL. That game had more to do with a bad OL, no Thielen, and using their 3rd string RB. But mainly the OL.
 

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At this point, we aren't going to get a starting #2 WR or new starting TE with what cap we have left... we are better off spending money on an interior DL and then drafting high for another ILB and a WR.

Time to re-sign Lewis and roll with what we have at TE while drafting one.
Either draft Queen or Murray at 30 if they are available or dip into one of the available WR's.

Not sure how much more we'll be able to get out of free agency, but we seem to be near the end of our dippings.
 
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I remember how awful Minnesota's offense looked without Cook in their home game against Green Bay last season. They got ten points early on short fields thanks to turnovers, and never threatened to score again for the rest of the game. Diggs accounted for their only touchdown.

Just my opinion, of course, but I believe for the Vikings to have long-term success on offense, they need a healthy Dalvin Cook (or someone very much like him).

I don't know what that proves, as Mattison was also hurt for that game.
 
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That's a factor of the media. Green Bay is used to being 'snubbed".

I would say both players are essential to their respective teams offenses.

It's hard for me to call a guy essential when his backup performs virtually identical to him.
 
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Littleton is a Raider-- 3/36.

That is definitely a deal I would have been happy to see the Packers make.
 

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Robby and Emmanuel you can remove unless we cut someone. Ain't fiscally possible without them deciding to take a pay cut they won't need to anywhere else. Ebron is even possibly too salty honestly given TE market...Graham gets $8M a year Olsen $7M....and I'd argue Ebron could make a case for same at least if not more than them.

Then the improvement in the passing game is going to have to come from a rookie or substantial improvements from last year's guys. That's not, uhm, ideal?

Also, the Packers could certainly manipulate the cap to sign either of those two if they wanted to. I would argue that right now is kind of the time to start sacrificing a future year of salary cap issues in order to maximize the team's chances with Rodgers.
 

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Then the improvement in the passing game is going to have to come from a rookie or substantial improvements from last year's guys. That's not, uhm, ideal?

Also, the Packers could certainly manipulate the cap to sign either of those two if they wanted to. I would argue that right now is kind of the time to start sacrificing a future year of salary cap issues in order to maximize the team's chances with Rodgers.

Oh don't get me wrong I'd support going after Robby 120%. It isn't happening as our roster sets now though, without some cuts. I've advocated for clearly cutting Taylor, however honestly his experience for one year to have along a front in reserve is worth it and I'd 100% support the HARD decision of cutting Linsley...BAM you instantly can afford Anderson. You have a Center replacement in Patrick "cheapish" with starter experience and in a year you'll know if the future...you already have Bulaga's replacement worst case for a year in Wagner and the draft does have some ideal heirs to that spot at RT.

I say cut Linsley throw cash and Anderson on just a 2 or 3 year deal. BUT Robby is not possible as we presently sit.
 

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