Fire Capers

[Sunshinepacker]

It's his job to get his defense ready and the defense has been terrible. This defense has no emotion and they just constantly make crappy QBs look great. He seems out of touch what really is happening and doesn't make adjustments. If his team isn't tackling well, then emphasize tackling, if they are blowing coverages, emphasize it. But no improvement is made time after time

So it's Caper's fault that a corner is in perfect position to break up a long pass to Funchess but fails at doing so? The players aren't actually responsible for what they're doing?

 

[DON BARRETT]

WE GET BEAT BY THE VIKES WE IN TROUBLE!

 

[PackerDNA]

Why are you always yelling, Don?

 

[DaveRoller]

Last week McCarthy said: “Everything starts with the run. You have to stop the run on defense." http://blog.packers.com/2015/11/05/news-now-mike-mccarthy-talks-about-run-scheme/

The Packers currently rank 27th in the NFL. They have had problems defending the run for several years running.

Either McCarthy was just spewing bunk, TT is incapable of providing Dom with the requisite talent, or Dom has not been able to get his players to do what McCarthy claims is imperative.

 

[PackerDNA]

Until I have the time for a fuller reply, I'll say this.
Outside of some things being a little different/better for a game or in flashes here and there, I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that firing Capers would result in very little, if any improvement with this unit.

 

[PackerFanLV]

Last week McCarthy said: “Everything starts with the run. You have to stop the run on defense." http://blog.packers.com/2015/11/05/news-now-mike-mccarthy-talks-about-run-scheme/

The Packers currently rank 27th in the NFL. They have had problems defending the run for several years running.

Either McCarthy was just spewing bunk, TT is incapable of providing Dom with the requisite talent, or Dom has not been able to get his players to do what McCarthy claims is imperative.

I think they are getting the best out the talent, look at tramon Williams at the browns. man hes getting used and abused, look at whalden in indy he looks so bad on the edge. honestly clay is not a ilb even he hits the wrong gaps but his speed and athleticism makes up for a lot of his mess ups. TT draft safties, WRs and convert them into corners. all our corners are so small and they just get bodied for position. I think its the talent lvl on defense. yes its talent on D but playing at a high lvl in the nfl type talent, I don't think the packers have that yet.

 

[Poppa San]

Until I have the time for a fuller reply, I'll say this.
Outside of some things being a little different/better for a game or in flashes here and there, I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that firing Capers would result in very little, if any improvement with this unit.

Would they be worse than the 27th ranked run defense as previously noted?

 

[Shawnsta3]

Would they be worse than the 27th ranked run defense as previously noted?

Marginally? If that makes any difference?

 

[PackerDNA]

Can't get much worse. My point is firing Capers wouldn't be a panacea for this unit.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Until I see Capers wearing a helmet and cleats and missing tackles and assignments, I'm going to put most of the blame on the players and the shortage of quality players (Ted Thompson blame). I'm restating what many have, but TT has not had a lot of success drafting on this side of the ball. The one big success was Matthews and he is now playing out of position to try and make up for no quality players at ILB. So until TT either hits on his Defensive drafts (Randall/Rollins might be) OR loosens up his belt and gets another Julius Peppers or two in Free Agency, our defense is always going to be average at best, no matter who is out there coaching them.

 

[net]

I was one of the first to make this call last year. Of course the 'homers' here simply think everything is fine. Notice other teams haven't allowed gushers of yards and points that the Packers have(one case in point San Diego).
Capers defense has been figured out and will be an albatross around the Packers neck until he is let go.

 

[OldSchool101]

Defense did NOT lose this game. MM and AR did. 3 plays. 3 lousy plays cost the packers. right before half Mm call TO. The AR throws ball OB. leads to a 63 yard FG. Then AR throws int right after packers get ball back after Cobb return and defense forcing 3 and out. costs 7 points. Total of 10 points. packers lost by 8. Again it all falls on MM and AR. To think otherwise means you wear rose colored glasses

Are you making fun Of my rose colored glasses again?!

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Only glasses I wear are Green and Gold colored

 

[azrsx05]

So it's Caper's fault that a corner is in perfect position to break up a long pass to Funchess but fails at doing so? The players aren't actually responsible for what they're doing?

The players have been held accountable. We have some new CBs. We have new linebackers, new line men and guess what. Our defense still sucks after 4 years. Guess who's still there leading the ship? Oh yeah Capers.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I was one of the first to make this call last year. Of course the 'homers' here simply think everything is fine. Notice other teams haven't allowed gushers of yards and points that the Packers have(one case in point San Diego).
Capers defense has been figured out and will be an albatross around the Packers neck until he is let go.

There's no doubt the defense is struggling but the below average talent level on this side of the ball is mostly to blame for it.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The players have been held accountable. We have some new CBs. We have new linebackers, new line men and guess what. Our defense still sucks after 4 years. Guess who's still there leading the ship? Oh yeah Capers.

Just because the players are new ones doesn't mean they're more talented.

 

[Passepartout]

It has to be on the same page of all players. New and old. Working together.

 

[azrsx05]

Just because the players are new ones doesn't mean they're more talented.

It means it's his job to get them ready or scheme to their strengths. Often times we see a crappy team get a new coach and they become great. This defense needs a spark and it's needed one for years. New blood leading them is what they need. Capers is out of touch. And the team has accepted mediocre performance by allowing him to stick around for this long. One bad year, ok it happens. But since 2011 this defense has been garbage. If the offense isn't there to bail them out, rarely they'll perform. Now that the offense isn't performing all that great we can't seem to win.

 

[PackerDNA]

There's no doubt the defense is struggling but the below average talent level on this side of the ball is mostly to blame for it.

Just because you make picks at a certain position doesn't mean the position has been 'addressed'.
Remember when TT picked 3 db's early- Vinson, the guy from Clemson and McKenzie? The lowest pick- McKenzie- was the only one to amount to anything.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It means it's his job to get them ready or scheme to their strengths. Often times we see a crappy team get a new coach and they become great. This defense needs a spark and it's needed one for years. New blood leading them is what they need. Capers is out of touch. And the team has accepted mediocre performance by allowing him to stick around for this long. One bad year, ok it happens. But since 2011 this defense has been garbage. If the offense isn't there to bail them out, rarely they'll perform. Now that the offense isn't performing all that great we can't seem to win.

Once again, there's no doubt the defense needs to improve. It seems that the talent level on the unit isn't good enough for that to happen though. I don't think changing the coordinator would result in better play. While a new coach sometimes sparks a team's performance there are numerous examples of it not working out as well.

 

[7thFloorRA]

Its just one excuse after another for teflon dom. Unbelievable. I have not seen ALL of the quotes from the coaches but the ones that are coming out on twitter are just a joke. ....and MM is going to watch the film. Are these guys serious??

 

[ls1bob]

It is still hard to believe that our players are THAT bad after all the priority that has been put on defense in the draft.

 

[OldSchool101]

Once again, there's no doubt the defense needs to improve. It seems that the talent level on the unit isn't good enough for that to happen though. I don't think changing the coordinator would result in better play. While a new coach sometimes sparks a team's performance there are numerous examples of it not working out as well.

Yea Wimn,
and I certainly wouldn't be considering that until the offseason either way

 

[azrsx05]

Once again, there's no doubt the defense needs to improve. It seems that the talent level on the unit isn't good enough for that to happen though. I don't think changing the coordinator would result in better play. While a new coach sometimes sparks a team's performance there are numerous examples of it not working out as well.

Would changing the coordinator at this point a bad idea? It's not like it would get any worse. To me I see it as a sign of a team that will not tolerate that type of performance and will send a message clear to everyone in the organization. But by keeping him, they are accepting this type of performance. It really shouldn't even be a discussion. There are no valid points as to why this idiot should even keep his job at this point. There are many reasons as why he should've been fired years ago.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The Packers defense is clearly one of the five worst in the league. The last three games have been atrocious. Is Capers at fault? I doubt it. TT hasn't given him talent to work with. The lack of athleticism on the defense is staggering. Every year I keep pointing out the lack of speed, size and leaping ability. Let's finally admit the draft and development philosophy can't build a defense on its own. Capers was ok when he had talent to work with. The real culprit is TT. Too many busts and way too many drafts where he failed to fill in obvious holes in the team.