Duds tampa

[Sunshinepacker]

MLF said they didn't use jet sweep actions because Tampa defended it very well and he thought it would have been pointless to put much into it gameplanning for this game.

Pre-snap motion isn't just jet sweeps.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I wish I had the still photo of the pick 6...wide open packer rcvr in the middle of the field...

Luckily, that pick-6 hit Adams right in the hands and bounced off... So not sure why that's a bad throw?

 

[Mondio]

Pre-snap motion isn't just jet sweeps.

I didn’t say it was, but those actions are what Ervin is running back and forth almost every time he’s moving. And MLF said they didn’t use them because they didn’t put them in the plan because they didn’t think Tampa was susceptible to it anyway.

I happen to agree. They’re stout and can penetrate up front, plus their linebackers are fast and flow very very well and fill.

 

[lambeaulambo]

Luckily, that pick-6 hit Adams right in the hands and bounced off... So not sure why that's a bad throw?

on the pick 6 it couldnt have hit off adams' hands it hit the defender in the hands lol...but if you see before ar throws, there is a wide open wr to adams right sitting in the middle of the zone...malik taylor

 

[melvin dangerr]

Rodgers was bad this game, but the constant complaint of staring down Adams is just silly. Rodgers targeted Adams 10 times, which is a lot when he only threw 35 passes, but I want people to provide actual evidence that MVS, ESB, Shepherd, Malik Taylor, etc. deserved more focus. What exactly makes everyone so sure that those guys should have been targeted more?! I just don't understand the logic of: "The offense failed because Rodgers didn't continue to trust receivers that have never proven reliable or good and instead kept trusting one of the best 5 receivers in the entire NFL!"

It’s not a complaint, Rodgers was looking more to Devante “1 TD pic return” and several misses, when the other receivers didn’t make catches and their were Rodgers under and overthrows to them he did rely on his go to guy more who didn’t look 100% as far as the offense fails, they were simply overpowered and there wasn’t much Rodgers could do be maybe audible some screen passes, this game was a failure for GB on both sides of the ball if I fault someone(s) it would be the coaches for having a bye week and were still unprepared

 

[Pugger]

Truth be told, I don't think Bak played his best game either.

On another forum a guy who really watches the trenches said Bak help Pierre-Paul in check most of the game. It appeared a lot of pressure came up the middle against Tampa the other day.

 

[Pugger]

The first pick was all Aaron. It was the Favre 2007 NFC Championship route and throw, coverage and a worse result. The not being able to complete a pass for just about a quarter is all Aaron. Adams getting hit in the hands on the 2nd one, is on Adams, but Rodgers had a bad enough 2 and a half quarters from that first pick onward that he gets most of the blame for the loss!

I agree the first pick was on Aaron but I don't think he should shoulder most of the blame for that loss. There is plenty of blame to go around in that locker room.

 

[PackerDNA]

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On another forum a guy who really watches the trenches said Bak help Pierre-Paul in check most of the game. It appeared a lot of pressure came up the middle against Tampa the other day.

n that case, I'll say I stand corrected. I was really just going off a couple of plays anyway.

 

[Pugger]

Dud

Aaron Rodgers. He panicked after the pick six and went into a fetal position for the rest of the game. Really embarrassing performance. Rodgers showed no grit or compete.

No grit? The guy was being pummeled on almost every snap. It was a miracle is got out of there alive. No QB is going to function properly when he has zero time and no running game behind him. This wasn't Rodgers' finest hour by any stretch but his teammates didn't play well either. Football is the ultimate team sport. The entire team laid an ostrich egg.

 

[Pugger]

on the pick 6 it couldnt have hit off adams' hands it hit the defender in the hands lol...but if you see before ar throws, there is a wide open wr to adams right sitting in the middle of the zone...

Didn't the ball bounce off our receiver in the second pick...?

 

[Pugger]

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n that case, I'll say I stand corrected. I was really just going off a couple of plays anyway.

I too didn't realize how well Bak played until he left.

 

[aristotle]

the #1 dud of the year is Gute for not drafting a WR. DA is over-rated. MVS and ESB suck. The defense is awful. Hire Rex Ryan as DC.
Rogers was his typical ***** self, for not being able to shake off a INT or QB pressure. He does not have the ability to let bad plays go and carry on. Evident in this game and the 2 SF games last year

 

[Pugger]

JK64, I see you disagreed with my take. Are you one of those who think a game's outcome rests entirely on the play of the QB?

 

[Pugger]

the #1 dud of the year is Gute for not drafting a WR. DA is over-rated. MVS and ESB suck. The defense is awful. Hire Rex Ryan as DC.
Rogers was his typical ***** self, for not being able to shake off a INT or QB pressure. He does not have the ability to let bad plays go and carry on. Evident in this game and the 2 SF games last year

I really don't think the lack of a rookie QB would have made a difference in the game in Tampa, frankly. Adams didn't have his best game but he is considered one of the top WRs in the league. Our OL played like crap outside of Bak and our pass D was a joke. There was no excuse for not pressuring that immobile 43 year old QB.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

on the pick 6 it couldnt have hit off adams' hands it hit the defender in the hands lol...but if you see before ar throws, there is a wide open wr to adams right sitting in the middle of the zone...

Look, I might have started drinking a little more heavily in the second half, I'm not surprised I got the interceptions mixed up.

 

[jon]

MLF - the game plan he called fed right into Tampa's defensive strengths. He gets a huge portion of the blame - the game plan we have seen before, Adams heavy. The offensive creativity did not exist in this game, period. Not enough focus between the tackles running the football, and Tampa predictably sat on short and intermediate routes outside. No slants and 4 wide alignments.

Jamaal Williams - missed pass pro over and over in this game. Whiff Whiff Whiff...coming into this game he had been awesome, this game he lacked focus.

Pettine - rushing 3 against Brady is a disaster, appeared to not understand how to defend a statue in the pocket. I think his days are numbered, I really do. He had 2 weeks to prepare for this and his calls were shortsighted and at most times, flat out conservative and played to the strengths of running between the tackles which they did the whole game.

every other game featured a lot of pre-snap movement, Ervin got hurt and, suddenly, barely much pre-snap movement at al

MLF said they didn't use jet sweep actions because Tampa defended it very well and he thought it would have been pointless to put much into it gameplanning for this game.

IMHO, these are getting at it. Clearly the offense's plan was more straight ahead stuff but after 2 or 3 Tampa LBs shot gaps on sweeps, the door was open for the mis-direction that features so heavily in MLF's scheme. I simply don't buy the argument that Ervin sitting out made this impossible. Poor coaching adjustment.

Similarly, on D, it is inexcusable to fail to get pressure on Brady. So many 3 man rushes, so few odd-man blitzes. Pettine, it seems, didn't try to fool Brady; he just tried to go man on man didn't adjust after continuous failure.

What really hit me, though, is the way the team got pushed around. No fight, no fury. I lay this on coaching as well.

And it got me wondering. When is the last time we saw a Packer team genuinely bull its way through an opponent and physically beat them? With both McC and MLF, the Packers are known for pretty football, execution, and 12's flashes of brilliance. When's the last time they gave anybody a bloody nose?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Didn't the ball bounce off our receiver in the second pick...?

yes it did.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Davante Adams did not look right today

Yeah, he didn't look quite as crisp as his usual self.

 

[Tminus6453]

Additionally I wasn’t crazy about his body language after the adversity set in.

Yup, Rodgers quit mentally, they never even attempted to make a comeback after those two int's, but apparently thats nothing new with Rodgers

 

[HardRightEdge]

We clearly don't have anyone as the planned back up to Ervin's role.

Which is going in motion on every other play while getting 6 targets and 4 rushes in 4 games. You wouldn't think that a guy who's primary role is exposing the defensive call or forcing an adjustment would be hard to replace. Given how little motion they ran I guess it is.

The RBs combined for 78 snaps in a 63 snap game. You would think more doubling up with Jones or Williams out wide would replace the Ervin factor but I guess that's pretty hard as well.

 

[lambeaulambo]

IMHO, these are getting at it. Clearly the offense's plan was more straight ahead stuff but after 2 or 3 Tampa LBs shot gaps on sweeps, the door was open for the mis-direction that features so heavily in MLF's scheme. I simply don't buy the argument that Ervin sitting out made this impossible. Poor coaching adjustment.

Similarly, on D, it is inexcusable to fail to get pressure on Brady. So many 3 man rushes, so few odd-man blitzes. Pettine, it seems, didn't try to fool Brady; he just tried to go man on man didn't adjust after continuous failure.

What really hit me, though, is the way the team got pushed around. No fight, no fury. I lay this on coaching as well.

And it got me wondering. When is the last time we saw a Packer team genuinely bull its way through an opponent and physically beat them? With both McC and MLF, the Packers are known for pretty football, execution, and 12's flashes of brilliance. When's the last time they gave anybody a bloody nose?

chuck cecil...1992...broke haywood jeffries ribs

 

[gopkrs]

yes it did.

Yeah, but it looked like very good coverage on him is what did it. Don't think he was open.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Yeah, but it looked like very good coverage on him is what did it. Don't think he was open.

I dont think I said it was a good pass badly missed, but the question was did it bounce off the receiver which it did.

 

[scotscheese]

Yeah, he didn't look quite as crisp as his usual self.

I dont think I said it was a good pass badly missed, but the question was did it bounce off the receiver which it did.

The ball did bounce off DA's hands on the second pick, so he does have to take his share of blame on that one as I think it was catchable. But it shouldn't be a surprise that DA wasn't on top of his game after being out the previous 2 1/2 games as he'll still be a bit rusty from lack of preseason, it may take another game or two before he hits it

 

[PikeBadger]

The ball did bounce off DA's hands on the second pick, so he does have to take his share of blame on that one as I think it was catchable. But it shouldn't be a surprise that DA wasn't on top of his game after being out the previous 2 1/2 games as he'll still be a bit rusty from lack of preseason, it may take another game or two before he hits it

I think all the guys just coming back from injuries probably were rusty.