Dom Capers is fired

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No, I think we'll have a pretty good idea by around week 6 next season.
I think we already have a decent idea with Hayward and Hyde making the Pro Bowl with other teams. Fricking Lawrence Guy, Frank Zombo and Erik Walden are still playing in this league.
 

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Thank you to Capers for his years of service to the Packers and to the NFL.

That said, it seems apparent that despite the number of 1st round draft picks spent on the defense, things never really got much better. Someone has to pay the price for that, and the DC is the logical candidate.

Some might argue that the talent Ted drafted was the culprit. The problem with that theory is Micah Hyde and Casey Hayward - Two guys Ted drafted for the defense, were let go, and became Pro Bowlers elsewhere. They clearly had the talent, as I suspect a number of other Packer defenders do. Some DC's around the league have done more with less.

I keep hearing Vic Fangio's name bandied about, and his record speaks for itself. He'd be a good hire, IMHO. If GB can get this done, and add a quality edge rusher or two, things might be looking up for 2018.

This could be one of the most interesting off-seasons for Titletown in years.....
 

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Who do we want? Defensive coordinator is certainly important to a teams success. Fritz Schumur was a big part of Mike Holmgren's success. My problem is this, other than Fritz Shurmur I can't recall a DC from Green Bay that was that great. Not saying there wasn't, I just can't think of a name. Can any of you?
 

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Who do we want? Defensive coordinator is certainly important to a teams success. Fritz Schumur was a big part of Mike Holmgren's success. My problem is this, other than Fritz Shurmur I can't recall a DC from Green Bay that was that great. Not saying there wasn't, I just can't think of a name. Can any of you?

Ray Rhodes was actually a decent DC, but sucked as a HC.
 

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Some might argue that the talent Ted drafted was the culprit. The problem with that theory is Micah Hyde and Casey Hayward - Two guys Ted drafted for the defense, were let go, and became Pro Bowlers elsewhere. .
Letting Peppers go was a mistake also, IMO. If you're going to draft and develop, at least resign your good players (yeah I know Peppers was a free agent).
 

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I think we already have a decent idea with Hayward and Hyde making the Pro Bowl with other teams. Fricking Lawrence Guy, Frank Zombo and Erik Walden are still playing in this league.

Hayward and Hyde are good. Both were good for the Packers but both obviously took another step with new teams. However, Hayward seems more like Thompson misjudged his value and Hyde was let go because I'm not sure ANYbody expected him to beat out Burnett or HaHa. As for the other names you mentioned, they have played no better for anyone else than they did with the Packers. But not to worry, I'm sure the only things wrong with this defense were Capers, the ILB coach, and the dline coach.
 

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Letting Peppers go was a mistake also, IMO. If you're going to draft and develop, at least resign your good players (yeah I know Peppers was a free agent).
I don’t believe we ever really had a good chance to re-sign Peppers. He’s got much stronger ties to Carolina than Green Bay. I always viewed Peppers as a 2-3 yr rental.
 

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I don’t believe we ever really had a good chance to re-sign Peppers. He’s got much stronger ties to Carolina than Green Bay. I always viewed Peppers as a 2-3 yr rental.

I was one who wanted Peppers back too, mainly out of need and when he wasn't resigned, I figured TT had better plans. Biegel wasn't what I considered a "better plan".

Peppers wasn't even made an offer from the Packers, so I doubt we will ever know if he would have stayed in GB. I think the Panthers got a bargain at $3.5M!
 

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Who do we want? Defensive coordinator is certainly important to a teams success. Fritz Schumur was a big part of Mike Holmgren's success. My problem is this, other than Fritz Shurmur I can't recall a DC from Green Bay that was that great. Not saying there wasn't, I just can't think of a name. Can any of you?
Phil Bengston was a pretty good DC.
 

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I was one who wanted Peppers back too, mainly out of need and when he wasn't resigned, I figured TT had better plans. Biegel wasn't what I considered a "better plan".

Peppers wasn't even made an offer from the Packers, so I doubt we will ever know if he would have stayed in GB. I think the Panthers got a bargain at $3.5M!
We’ll probably never know unless Peppers writes his memoirs. I don’t expect Thompson will write a tell all book. For anything close to the same price, I suspect Peppers would choose home. Purely speculation, just the way I look at it.
 

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Hayward and Hyde are good. Both were good for the Packers but both obviously took another step with new teams. However, Hayward seems more like Thompson misjudged his value and Hyde was let go because I'm not sure ANYbody expected him to beat out Burnett or HaHa. As for the other names you mentioned, they have played no better for anyone else than they did with the Packers. But not to worry, I'm sure the only things wrong with this defense were Capers, the ILB coach, and the dline coach.
I think that Hayward’s and Hyde’s talents were not used well by Capers. Imo, Thompson made a mistake by drafting Dix, or by keeping Burnett to pair with Dix. They have the same strengths and weaknesses. They don’t mesh well as a safety tandem.
 

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I ranted about Capers often since 2011. I'm all crapped out. Since I got the man fired, I'm going to look forward only.;)
 

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We’ll probably never know unless Peppers writes his memoirs. I don’t expect Thompson will write a tell all book. For anything close to the same price, I suspect Peppers would choose home. Purely speculation, just the way I look at it.
It is speculation, but if Thompson had made it clear early on that they wanted him to stay, maybe he would have. Maybe Ted could have made an attempt to extend him earlier on. As it is, sounds like he never even tried. Better to go down swinging. The impression I got was Ted thought he was too old.
 

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Now that both Dom Capers and Ted Thompson have been removed from their respective positions, who is the designated team scapegoat?

Just curious.....:>)
 

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Hayward and Hyde are good. Both were good for the Packers but both obviously took another step with new teams. However, Hayward seems more like Thompson misjudged his value and Hyde was let go because I'm not sure ANYbody expected him to beat out Burnett or HaHa. As for the other names you mentioned, they have played no better for anyone else than they did with the Packers. But not to worry, I'm sure the only things wrong with this defense were Capers, the ILB coach, and the dline coach.

Hayward was nothing but a JAG for us, he was solid in the slot and was kinda lousy playing outside. I for one felt he should be let go and wouldnt be worth resigning at the time. Hyde had been tried at safety but wasn't used there extensively, its hard to evaluate talent when your coaches do a bad job utilizing that talent.
 

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well, he better or he'll be done with the team sooner than later.

Agreed....not exactly what you are looking to hear from a guy who played pretty poorly himself, makes you wonder if Ha Ha isn't part of the problem too? If I am the new DC and I hear a guy that played sub-standard ball talking like that, I'm making damn sure he gets his extra reps and wind sprints.
 

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I had a really bad dream last night, Dom Capers was named the Packers GM and TT became the new DC. :eek:
 
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