Dom Capers is fired

[easyk83]

Damarious Randall called out a lack of accountability for the defense's demise, apparently guys would routinely miss on basic assignment type stuff and yet wouldnt be taken out or sent to the bench. Josh Jones is an obvious culprit but add Martinez and Jake Ryan to that list along with HHCD.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And here I spend my nights and days dreaming of Pamela Anderson in her Bay watch days.

and wake up next to this? I'll take my chances with TT at DC and Dom as GM

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[Half Empty]

Now that both Dom Capers and Ted Thompson have been removed from their respective positions, who is the designated team scapegoat?

Just curious.....:>)

Trick question? MM, for now, and whoever replaces Capers and Thompson if things don't get better.

 

[easyk83]

The hell with Pam Anderson, hello Kagney Linn Carter

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[Pokerbrat2000]

That was soooo worth waiting ALL this time to have Dom finally fired!

 

[PikeBadger]

Now that both Dom Capers and Ted Thompson have been removed from their respective positions, who is the designated team scapegoat?

Just curious.....:>)

Jarrett Bush?

 

[rodell330]

The need faster
More athletic guys on defense. Especially at backer. The corners may be ok but they lack ball skills it seems..always late to turn and find the ball. As for safety I think Jones is solid but I could see him being a faster more ablthletic Morgan Burnett who was just an ok player
At SS. Hopefully his speed and athleticism can make him more of a playmaker. If Haha is our best DB that isn’t saying much because he’s just solid at best imo but nothing like Collins.

 

[Mondio]

Not many were like Collins. He could cover so much ground, could play the ball well, and could deliver a blow. Run and pass skills in a combination with speed that not a lot of others have had in this league.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Jarrett Bush?

Your response reminded me that for awhile there, everything was Davante Adams's fault, and some folks wanted him cut.

Those folks are pretty quiet about that these days......:>)

 

[Half Empty]

That might have something to do with the fact that most folks only complain about something with which they're dissatisfied. Adams sucked, and who knows what would have happened to him elsewhere? He stayed here, turned it around, and now all that some of us don't like is his contract.

 

[Mondio]

Your response reminded me that for awhile there, everything was Davante Adams's fault, and some folks wanted him cut.

Those folks are pretty quiet about that these days......:>)

They're quiet about that, but they aren't quiet.

 

[bigbubbatd]

Your response reminded me that for awhile there, everything was Davante Adams's fault, and some folks wanted him cut.

Those folks are pretty quiet about that these days......:>)

It was the same group that was convinced Janis was the better wr. I have made many bad takes in my life. That is worse than any of mine

 

[GleefulGary]

Hayward was nothing but a JAG for us, he was solid in the slot and was kinda lousy playing outside. I for one felt he should be let go and wouldnt be worth resigning at the time. Hyde had been tried at safety but wasn't used there extensively, its hard to evaluate talent when your coaches do a bad job utilizing that talent.

Hayward was not just another guy. He was just injured frequently and our scheme didn't play to his strengths. Despite that, he still did really well. We let him go for a couple reasons. We had Sam Shields under contract. Randall had a really good rookie year. Rollins had a pretty good rookie year. It made sense to move on. It burned us, obviously, but it did make sense.

Hyde played out of position for us. He is a safety than can play CB situationally, but he's a much better safety. At the time, Burnett was playing really well, Dix had a great year, and we ended up drafting Jones. It's hard to pay Hyde starting safety money when he wouldn't have been a starting safety here. Wish we still had him, he's a good player. Intellectually, it makes sense why we moved on.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It was the same group that was convinced Janis was the better wr. I have made many bad takes in my life. That is worse than any of mine

Don't forget......they are always lurking!

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[easyk83]

Hayward was not just another guy. He was just injured frequently and our scheme didn't play to his strengths. Despite that, he still did really well. We let him go for a couple reasons. We had Sam Shields under contract. Randall had a really good rookie year. Rollins had a pretty good rookie year. It made sense to move on. It burned us, obviously, but it did make sense.

Hyde played out of position for us. He is a safety than can play CB situationally, but he's a much better safety. At the time, Burnett was playing really well, Dix had a great year, and we ended up drafting Jones. It's hard to pay Hyde starting safety money when he wouldn't have been a starting safety here. Wish we still had him, he's a good player. Intellectually, it makes sense why we moved on.

Hayward was just a backup and never really looked like a starter for us, his few stints as a number 1 or 2 cornerback were pretty abysmal. Hayward is a great player and should have been a great player for us as well.

 

[mradtke66]

The more I think about this, I suspect the season ending the way it did played a significant part of Dom leaving, but not for the obvious reasons.

If the Packers make the post-season, which they have for a while, they skip "Black Monday." A lot of the up-and-coming coordinators get promptly snatched up before the Packers even play their first playoff game. Make it to the Divisional or Championship rounds and the second tier up and comers already get jobs.

By the time our season has been finished, there's no one outside of the organization worth hiring. Sure, we could fire Dom, but with a limited hiring pool, you could easily backslide.

Now in 2017, we're done the same time as everyone else. We can have the same first crack at the premier hires that the rest of the league does.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The more I think about this, I suspect the season ending the way it did played a significant part of Dom leaving, but not for the obvious reasons.

If the Packers make the post-season, which they have for a while, they skip "Black Monday." A lot of the up-and-coming coordinators get promptly snatched up before the Packers even play their first playoff game. Make it to the Divisional or Championship rounds and the second tier up and comers already get jobs.

By the time our season has been finished, there's no one outside of the organization worth hiring. Sure, we could fire Dom, but with a limited hiring pool, you could easily backslide.

Now in 2017, we're done the same time as everyone else. We can have the same first crack at the premier hires that the rest of the league does.

Sadly, you have described how it has been done in .....Cleveland, Detroit, San Fran...... Yikes!

 

[Curly Calhoun]

The more I think about this, I suspect the season ending the way it did played a significant part of Dom leaving, but not for the obvious reasons.

If the Packers make the post-season, which they have for a while, they skip "Black Monday." A lot of the up-and-coming coordinators get promptly snatched up before the Packers even play their first playoff game. Make it to the Divisional or Championship rounds and the second tier up and comers already get jobs.

By the time our season has been finished, there's no one outside of the organization worth hiring. Sure, we could fire Dom, but with a limited hiring pool, you could easily backslide.

Now in 2017, we're done the same time as everyone else. We can have the same first crack at the premier hires that the rest of the league does.

Yes, this off-season is a rare opportunity for Green Bay. It seems like the perfect time to make some positive changes.

With that in mind, I'm personally rooting for Vic Fangio to get Dom's old job. Time will tell.

 

[GleefulGary]

Hayward was just a backup and never really looked like a starter for us, his few stints as a number 1 or 2 cornerback were pretty abysmal. Hayward is a great player and should have been a great player for us as well.

Uh...no, he wasn't. He was a NB at worst, and a NB is essentially a starter. He was not abysmal here, at all.

His last year here Hayward played 87% of the snaps. But yeah, he was a backup.

 

[PikeBadger]

Your response reminded me that for awhile there, everything was Davante Adams's fault, and some folks wanted him cut.

Those folks are pretty quiet about that these days......:>)

Lol, there are plenty here who don’t understand that most NFL players aren’t elite players in their first two years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Lol, there are plenty here who don’t understand that most NFL players aren’t elite players in their first two years.

Nor during their entire career We all want Pro Bowlers at every position, but how are you going to make that work with the cap? While I like the draft and develop model, if you overplay it (too many young guys), you might be forced to expect and need much better play out of too many young guys too fast. I always wonder how both Randall and Rollins would have fared, had they not been thrust almost immediately into starting roles and being counted on. You could even see Kevin King getting a bit rattled by it. Some of these guys come in with big egos and when you throw them to the wolves, in a pretty complex system, I can see how it can set them back.

 

[longtimefan]

Wait till some stories come out.. Some people may have a different perspective

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Wait till some stories come out.. Some people may have a different perspective

"Stories" are the problem. What are we to believe? Obviously, the Packer organization didn't fully think Capers was that bad of a DC or he would have been gone a few years ago. Same with TT. The Packer organization has way more information than the media or the fans, but that information doesn't always fully come out, at least in a 100% truthful form.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

The hell with Pam Anderson, hello Kagney Linn Carter

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Yeah,her and the diffibrulator machine I`d need afterwards

 

[Snoops]

Idk If this was brought up another forum or post but with bennett and van pelt our now I bet McCarthy is lining up a McAdoo and philbin reunion... is it all a weird coincidence? Hmmm