Anders Carlson

[Pokerbrat2000]

The only saving grace he has, is that he is a rookie..We can only hope and pray like MLF

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Thanks for posting this.

Totally appreciate Pat M.'s insight on just how hard kicking is. I think fans just assume that anything inside of 50 should be automatic.

Also, I agree with his take on Love wanting to score a TD and not just a FG at the end of the game with the 9'ers. Jordan had just watched the 49'er march down the field and score, as well as seeing his own kicker (Anders) miss a FG earlier. Sucked that he threw the pick, but I think with under a minute on the clock, he was thinking TD and no overtime, not a FG and risk losing in OT.

 

[sschind]

Some people take everything anybody says very literally. Watch every coach and every player on the sideline when their kicker lines up. You tell me they are not praying just a little bit. More stuff blown way out of proportion by the media and the fans. I like Hawk's take on how MLF might be a bit less cooperative in the future.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Some people take everything anybody says very literally. Watch every coach and every player on the sideline when their kicker lines up. You tell me they are not praying just a little bit. More stuff blown way out of proportion by the media and the fans. I like Hawk's take on how MLF might be a bit less cooperative in the future.

"Some people take everything anybody says very literally."

The online "media" is just way out of hand. So many sources are using click bait to get people to click on their "article", just to increase their views for advertising income. I can't tell you how many times I have been baited into clicking on one of these and left feeling fleeced. I won't even click on a "Wisconsin Sports Heroics" crap anymore, those people are just the kings of BS articles.

 

[El Guapo]

I felt shame after clicking on this Anders Carlson thread. Click Bait.

PoppaSan must be making millions off of all our clicks!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I felt shame after clicking on this Anders Carlson thread. Click Bait.

PoppaSan must be making millions off of all our clicks!

You mean that you didn't know that every time one of us clicks on or makes a post here, the Mods each make $100? They aren't driving Lamborghini's and living in those fancy Mod Mansions based on their good looks and wit.

 

[Poppa San]

You mean that you didn't know that every time one of us clicks on or makes a post here, the Mods each make $100? They aren't driving Lamborghini's and living in those fancy Mod Mansions based on their good looks and wit.

My wife is though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

My wife is though.

Boy, she really hit the Click Bait Jackpot!

 

[lambeaulambo]

Something is awry if they are still bringing in camp legs. Bring in a 4th over 70 English bloke.

 

[thequick12]

I hope they stick with Carlson again...he really wasn't that bad last season and he's likely to get better.

27 of 33 81.8% Mason Crosby was 31 of 39 79.5% his rookie year. In fact Crosby didnt best that percentage until his fifth season. For his career Crosby was under 81.8% in 8 of his 16 seasons with the Packers. Once he finished at 81.8%

Point is Carlson has the potential and pedigree to still be great.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I hope they stick with Carlson again...he really wasn't that bad last season and he's likely to get better.

27 of 33 81.8% Mason Crosby was 31 of 39 79.5% his rookie year. In fact Crosby didnt best that percentage until his fifth season. For his career Crosby was under 81.8% in 8 of his 16 seasons with the Packers. Once he finished at 81.8%

Point is Carlson has the potential and pedigree to still be great.

I think you're probably right about Carlson. Citing Crosby's stats is interesting. I'm a Crosby fan although that's not true for all on here. There are only so many Tuckers and Vinateris (sp?) out there. I don't think much is to be gained by dumping Carlson and picking up a retread like Joseph.

Keeping Carlson is certainly risky. We've seen how damaging a missed chip shot can be. But kicking in the NFL is certainly an adjustment, and kickers are mostly head cases anyway.

Keeping Carlson also comes down to the process of elimination. I haven't seen or heard of any of these other guys clearly out kicking him. He'll get better with each kick, especially the big ones. Yeah, like the one he missed against the Niners.

 

[sschind]

I think you're probably right about Carlson. Citing Crosby's stats is interesting. I'm a Crosby fan although that's not true for all on here. There are only so many Tuckers and Vinateris (sp?) out there. I don't think much is to be gained by dumping Carlson and picking up a retread like Joseph.

Keeping Carlson is certainly risky. We've seen how damaging a missed chip shot can be. But kicking in the NFL is certainly an adjustment, and kickers are mostly head cases anyway.

Keeping Carlson also comes down to the process of elimination. I haven't seen or heard of any of these other guys clearly out kicking him. He'll get better with each kick, especially the big ones. Yeah, like the one he missed against the Niners.

How many Butkers are there? Probably a few but they won't admit it now.

Seriously though I was not that turned off by Carlson's FGs last year. We've put up with worse. I wonder how he is doing on extra points. My thinking is they stick with him. They were pretty neck and neck until Carlson had that one bad practice then they both had a bad one in the wind. I think it would be different if he had been missing consistently but they seemed to come in spurts. I think thats more of a head issue than an ability issue and he can work through those

 

[Heyjoe4]

How many Butkers are there? Probably a few but they won't admit it now.

Seriously though I was not that turned off by Carlson's FGs last year. We've put up with worse. I wonder how he is doing on extra points. My thinking is they stick with him. They were pretty neck and neck until Carlson had that one bad practice then they both had a bad one in the wind. I think it would be different if he had been missing consistently but they seemed to come in spurts. I think thats more of a head issue than an ability issue and he can work through those

Butler. How could I forget.......?

And yeah, the best bet IMO is to keep Carlson. There isn't a huge gap between him and the guys who were brought in to compete. And kicking is as much about focus as on leg strength and accuracy. These guys sit around for the whole game and are called on for very brief periods of performance. The kick Carlson missed in Santa Clara was more about lack of focus than anything else. And I do agree that these just need to be worked through.

He'll have plenty of chances to nail pressure kicks during the season. The risk of bringing in a new guy is about the same as keeping Carlson. It was a good idea to bring in competition - for both focus and kicking fundamentals. So in a way he's feeling some of that pressure in otherwise meaningless camp reps and PS games.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

How many Butkers are there? Probably a few but they won't admit it now.

Seriously though I was not that turned off by Carlson's FGs last year. We've put up with worse. I wonder how he is doing on extra points. My thinking is they stick with him. They were pretty neck and neck until Carlson had that one bad practice then they both had a bad one in the wind. I think it would be different if he had been missing consistently but they seemed to come in spurts. I think thats more of a head issue than an ability issue and he can work through those

Last season was a good season to break in a rookie Kicker. Meaning, I don't think a veteran kicker would have been the difference maker to win a Super Bowl. While I am not as confident as some fans that 2024 is a legit SB year for the Packers, I think they will be a better and more consistent team. I see them more as a 2025 and beyond top contender. Anyway, if Carlson can't show that he has the "mental game" to hack kicking in the NFL, it's time he goes (before the season starts). I was a supporter of his, because he had a strong leg and was a rookie, but if he continues having the yips in Preseason, I would be fine moving on from him.

Captain and I used to have this discussion all the time. I just don't understand how teams justify spending $4M+ on backup players, but that kind of money being spent on a kicker, who may be the difference between winning and losing a close game, is hard for some to swallow?

 

[tynimiller]

How many Butkers are there? Probably a few but they won't admit it now.

Oh geesh.....I'll only say if you haven't listened to the whole speech, any thought of it is ignorance illustrated....back to football.

I personally think Joseph is the better kicker but GB has to choose do they have faith in the youth and promise or get a guy that likely is precisely what he is and won't be more...

 

[sschind]

I hope they stick with Carlson again...he really wasn't that bad last season and he's likely to get better.

27 of 33 81.8% Mason Crosby was 31 of 39 79.5% his rookie year. In fact Crosby didnt best that percentage until his fifth season. For his career Crosby was under 81.8% in 8 of his 16 seasons with the Packers. Once he finished at 81.8%

Point is Carlson has the potential and pedigree to still be great.

Pedigree doesn't do much for me. For every Clay Matthews III there is a Walter Payton Jr. and we'll see how Brenden Rice does. Potential on the other hand? Joseph is a career 82% kicker. I just don't see an improvement on this at this stage of his career. Carlson? I can see room for improvement.

 

[thequick12]

Pedigree doesn't do much for me. For every Clay Matthews III there is a Walter Payton Jr. and we'll see how Brenden Rice does. Potential on the other hand? Joseph is a career 82% kicker. I just don't see an improvement on this at this stage of his career. Carlson? I can see room for improvement.

For every payton jr there is a tj, jj and the other watt.

Im not saying pedigree is everything Im just saying it does help to know his brother started out similarly and with the same coaching became an all pro

 

[Heyjoe4]

How many Butkers are there? Probably a few but they won't admit it now.

Seriously though I was not that turned off by Carlson's FGs last year. We've put up with worse. I wonder how he is doing on extra points. My thinking is they stick with him. They were pretty neck and neck until Carlson had that one bad practice then they both had a bad one in the wind. I think it would be different if he had been missing consistently but they seemed to come in spurts. I think thats more of a head issue than an ability issue and he can work through those

Opps, you're talking about that Butker, he of "a woman's place is in the home fame". Yeah I'd rather not have a kicker, or any player, stepping on his **** so publicly.

 

[gopkrs]

Does Butker spend his off season on a farm in an Amish community? He sure looks the part.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Opps, you're talking about that Butker, he of "a woman's place is in the home fame". Yeah I'd rather not have a kicker, or any player, stepping on his **** so publicly.

Yeah.... jesus, buddy, learn to read the room, will ya? When the whole world is telling you that (while your opinion is noted, and you have the right to that opinion) you don't need to keep shouting it out loud whenever someone waves a microphone in your general direction. Shut up and kick some footballs; that's all anyone really cares about as far as you're concerned. Nobody's paying you to explain how other people should live their lives.

Now. If you really want accomplish some good in this world, take a few days to hang out with Anders Carlson and give him directions on how to kick footballs. That's what you're good for.

 

[tynimiller]

I have listened to the entire Butker speech at the religious college he was asked to speak at three times. A lot of the conflated and assumptions to his thoughts expressed out in a lot of media sources. I'm not going to express anything on either side, but I will say if you haven't sat and listened to the actual speech, you should.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I have listened to the entire Butker speech at the religious college he was asked to speak at three times. A lot of the conflated and assumptions to his thoughts expressed out in a lot of media sources. I'm not going to express anything on either side, but I will say if you haven't sat and listened to the actual speech, you should.

That makes sense. The sound bites we get from anyone in the public spotlight should be provided with context, but seldom are. It happens on here. Someone copies a line from another's response, usually adds bold or italics, and then just deals with that statement with no added context.

I find that to be bad form and just downright lazy. It's just a good reminder to take time to listen to all of a person's comments rather than sound bites.

 

[Snoops]

Last season was a good season to break in a rookie Kicker. Meaning, I don't think a veteran kicker would have been the difference maker to win a Super Bowl. While I am not as confident as some fans that 2024 is a legit SB year for the Packers, I think they will be a better and more consistent team. I see them more as a 2025 and beyond top contender. Anyway, if Carlson can't show that he has the "mental game" to hack kicking in the NFL, it's time he goes (before the season starts). I was a supporter of his, because he had a strong leg and was a rookie, but if he continues having the yips in Preseason, I would be fine moving on from him.

Captain and I used to have this discussion all the time. I just don't understand how teams justify spending $4M+ on backup players, but that kind of money being spent on a kicker, who may be the difference between winning and losing a close game, is hard for some to swallow?

Whatever happened to captain!? Does anyone know?

 

[tynimiller]

Whatever happened to captain!? Does anyone know?

I'll summarize in a very high level so mods and others hopefully don't have to get riled up.

Long story short Captain had a very hard time with listening when asked to stop, and at times struggled mightedly with civil discourse.

The patience and line given by moderators eventually wore too thin and there was no more line to give.

 

[Snoops]

I'll summarize in a very high level so mods and others hopefully don't have to get riled up.

Long story short Captain had a very hard time with listening when asked to stop, and at times struggled mightedly with civil discourse.

The patience and line given by moderators eventually wore too thin and there was no more line to give.

I see I was wondering that. Did he make a new account and we just don’t know it lol

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Whatever happened to captain!? Does anyone know?

Not sure, but here is a video of his last day in the Forum.

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