Amari Cooper

[Favre>Rodgers259]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ors-raiders-discussing-potentially-dealing-wr

He's been down all year (And was in 2017) and still in his rookie contract. I know we drafted three WRs but I feel like this is a move worth exploring. Could a QB change and a winning situation right the ship? We all know AR makes every WR better, what would his ceiling be in Green Bay? My only curiosity is what the Raiders are asking in return.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

4 weeks ago I would have said, 'why is one of these threads for every single decent player?'. But since Cobb is up to his same old crap this past month, not a horrible idea even if you want to cut Cobb.

 

[Mondio]

4 weeks ago I would have said, 'why is one of these threads for every single decent player?'. But since Cobb is up to his same old crap this past month, not a horrible idea even if you want to cut Cobb.

Cobb is getting paid by us, all of it. They aren’t cutting him now when it benefits us in no way at all.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

Cobb is getting paid by us, all of it. They aren’t cutting him now when it benefits us in no way at all.

Just curious, wouldn't his game checks be a good portion of that?

 

[longtimefan]

We should make new forum.

Big names we want but wont get

 

[Lawdog]

I would make this move. Cooper is in the 4th year of his contract. The Raiders signed him in April to a 5th year option so he is under contract until 2020. Next years cap hit over 13 million. Cobb and Matthews money will be off the books.

Cooper with Aaron Rodgers will thrive. I would be willing to part with a 2nd round and 5th round pick for Cooper. Make the move Glute. Cooper and Adams I like.

 

[Heyjoe4]

We should make new forum.

Big names we want but wont get

And at positions of need - S and ER. I’ve seen speculation about Dez and today Amari Cooper. But IF the Packers are going to make a mid-season trade, WR ranks down on the list as far as immediate needs.

 

[Mondio]

Just curious, wouldn't his game checks be a good portion of that?

He’s a vet, his salary was guaranteed the moment he was on the week 1 roster. We owe him all of it regardless of what happens from that point forward. Cutting him now would still cost money for a roster spot we’d have to fill and cost money on top of that.

Not convinced Cooper be an upgrade over our young guys, and certainly not more than Cobb when healthy.

 

[Heyjoe4]

He’s a vet, his salary was guaranteed the moment he was on the week 1 roster. We owe him all of it regardless of what happens from that point forward. Cutting him now would still cost money for a roster spot we’d have to fill and cost money on top of that.

Not convinced Cooper be an upgrade over our young guys, and certainly not more than Cobb when healthy.

I share your opinion about Cooper. With the early promise MVS and EQ are showing, along with Adams and a healthy GMO and Cobb, the WR group is far stronger at this point than it was to start the season. Need to get Graham in a groove, but the Packers have bigger needs at S and ER to spend any capital on a WR at this point. Cooper played long enough with the very capable Derek Carr. Sometimes a gut just doesn’t live up to his draft billing.

 

[PackerFanLV]

Receiver is not the problem, Im telling ya MM is just not creative enough. MM offense been looking pedestrian for a while now.

 

[Firethorn1001]

I would be willing to part with a 2nd round and 5th round pick for Cooper. Make the move Glute. Cooper and Adams I like.

Should throw in a 1st.. you know, just to be sure.

 

[BrokenArrow]

But since Cobb is up to his same old crap this past month, not a horrible idea even if you want to cut Cobb.

And what "crap" has he been up to? Has be been putting Icy Hot in everyone's jock again?

 

[LambeauLombardi]

And what "crap" has he been up to? Has be been putting Icy Hot in everyone's jock again?

The DNP's/very average play since his extension

 

[BrokenArrow]

The DNP's/very average play since his extension

That's not being "up to the same crap." Your choice of words indicates deliberate malfeasance and poor character. There is nothing wrong with Cobb's character. Maybe some time when you break your leg and need a medical leave from work someone should ask you what kind of crap you're up to.

 

[Lawdog]

Should throw in a 1st.. you know, just to be sure.

Oh ha ha your that guy. Oh please great one tell me what you would do message board GM.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ors-raiders-discussing-potentially-dealing-wr

He's been down all year (And was in 2017) and still in his rookie contract. I know we drafted three WRs but I feel like this is a move worth exploring. Could a QB change and a winning situation right the ship? We all know AR makes every WR better, what would his ceiling be in Green Bay? My only curiosity is what the Raiders are asking in return.

The Packers don't need to add talent at wide receiver to improve their chances of making it to the postseason. I would be in favor of adding an edge rusher or a safety capable of playing single high but other than that prefer Gutekunst to stand pat.

I would make this move. Cooper is in the 4th year of his contract. The Raiders signed him in April to a 5th year option so he is under contract until 2020. Next years cap hit over 13 million.

The Packers would drastically overpay for Cooper retainig him for nearly $14 million next season.

Cooper played long enough with the very capable Derek Carr. Sometimes a gut just doesn’t live up to his draft billing.

Rodgers would present a significant upgrade over Carr. The Packers shouldn't be interested in Cooper though.

 

[Firethorn1001]

tell me what you would do message board GM.

For starters I'd like to thank you for recognizing my inherent greatest from a small blurb on a message board.

Secondly.. I'd start by not sending a 2nd and a 5th to Oakland for Cooper. A nearly $14M cap hit and a loss of draft capital when the Packers will have more glaring needs at OLB, O-line and probably safety doesn't make much sense given the holes the Packers will need to fill in 2019.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If the Packers are thinking about trading for someone on the Raiders, I would go after S Karl Joseph, who appears to be up for trade as well. Cooper had 2 solid years and has been inconsistent ever since. Salary wise, Cooper would be a steal this year, but not so sure about giving up a lot of draft Capital AND having to pay him $14M next year to keep him.

Joseph isn't a Pro Bowl safety yet, but I would consider him an upgrade over what we currently have, as well as a guy who still has one more year on his rookie deal.

If the Packers can get Joseph for a mid round pick, I think long term, he would be a much wiser investment than Cooper.

 

[Lawdog]

For starters I'd like to thank you for recognizing my inherent greatest from a small blurb on a message board.

Secondly.. I'd start by not sending a 2nd and a 5th to Oakland for Cooper. A nearly $14M cap hit and a loss of draft capital when the Packers will have more glaring needs at OLB, O-line and probably safety doesn't make much sense given the holes the Packers will need to fill in 2019.

Yeah WR is not a glaring need. I completely disagree. There is a reasons Rodgers holds the ball for 8 to 10 seconds. Oh wait I know the WR can't get open. Let's just keep spending that draft capital on drafting more DB like the packers have not done that for the past 4 years. This group of WR can"t get separation. I would most definitely pay the price to get Cooper.

 

[Poppa San]

Yeah WR is not a glaring need. I completely disagree. There is a reasons Rodgers holds the ball for 8 to 10 seconds. Oh wait I know the WR can't get open. Let's just keep spending that draft capital on drafting more DB like the packers have not done that for the past 4 years. This group of WR can"t get separation. I would most definitely pay the price to get Cooper.

so when Cooper runs the exact same routes the current WRs run he'll magically get open? The routes that are run because the receivers need to be exactly where Aaron expects them otherwise they don't earn his trust.

 

[elcid]

Yeah WR is not a glaring need. I completely disagree. There is a reasons Rodgers holds the ball for 8 to 10 seconds. Oh wait I know the WR can't get open. Let's just keep spending that draft capital on drafting more DB like the packers have not done that for the past 4 years. This group of WR can"t get separation. I would most definitely pay the price to get Cooper.

Correct-o-mundo. Sure the young WRs had an interesting day, yet it has only been 1 observation vs a Lions team that fairly early in the match didn't mind giving up short yardage throws if it prevented the big plays. Furthermore Graham has not been an immediate contribution in the passing game. Cobb has been average for years. Only Adams has been steady, yet seems to have struggled more now that he is being matched up vs. the opponent's top CB every game. Some of the sacks we endure should definitely be faulted to Aaron for holding on too the ball for too long occasionally, but our WR's just have not seem as shifty and explosive as they used to be.

That being said, I don't take Cooper would change much of that. He'd definitely command some attention, but given that he is set to make 13M next season, and we'd probably have to offer more than a 3rd rounder for him, I'd pass. I'd rather find another target to spend a mid round pick on (at EDGE) and sign Dez. Say what you want about him but he has some heart, and we seem to need that back in the locker room.

 

[OldSchool101]

I was just thinking, this league truly is run by supply and demand. There will definitely be players that teams sign that are generational talents (Mack etc..) but there is also a heavy cost in many areas such as .. Cap limitations, Roster limitations etc..
I’m no expert, but those bigger player trade contracts over $10M a year or that require forfeiting draft picks or a combination of both?

I think as a GM you would have to error on being safe and not overspending and I realize there are some examples otherwise. But for every example you give me about a bigger contract player traded worthy of his salt? I’ll site 5 more examples of either players that didn’t meet expectations or caused harm to the teams bank account.

If you had told me this preseason that we would be shopping for a high caliber receiver by game 6 because that was our priority weakness? I would’ve thought you were joking.

That said, I know many of you mean well wanting to go out and get exciting players and I know it’s tough to be patient and trust in the process, especially when we’re limping along like this. But we just invested and gambled on keeping a large receiver pool this season moreso than any position group. It’s incumbent upon us to stay the course and develop those receivers and trust the improvement process.

Can you imagine, as an example, if we traded just a 4th rounder and we essentially missed out on a player like Blake Martinez (Thank you Blake for exceeding expectations) because of that decision? Or how about if we gave up on Davante Adams 5 games into his rookie year?! Now multiply that exponentially if you go higher rounds.. it ain’t pretty.

 

[sjb12681]

What's his backpedaling speed?

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Cooper would be a waste of our draft picks. He had horrible contested catch numbers last year and I doubt he'd be an upgrade over what we have. I think we use our draft picks to improve the pass rush and bolster the oline next year. Let these WR's develop and continue to use Adams as our WR1.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

Salary wise, Cooper would be a steal this year, but not so sure about giving up a lot of draft Capital AND having to pay him $14M next year to keep him.

He'd definitely command some attention, but given that he is set to make 13M next season, and we'd probably have to offer more than a 3rd rounder for him, I'd pass.

I know what the pundits are saying, but there's no guarantee Cooper will make $13-$14M next year. There will be some options at WR in his FA Class, and unless he turns it around this year he could find himself making only about $7-$9M. The only way I see him earning that money on his current path is some GM leaps out and overpays right out the gate in the first week of Free Agency.

The same goes for draft capital, I'd throw a 2nd, two 4ths, and Whitehead/Jones for Cooper AND Joseph.