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Hawk and Desmond Bishop I believe. Nick Barnett started the year, but was lost to an injury in week 4.
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Hawk and Desmond Bishop I believe. Nick Barnett started the year, but was lost to an injury in week 4.
Thanks. Yeah I think that’s when Hawk was still playing well and Bishop was Bishop. I didn’t know Barnett was lost to injury. I think he’s the last great ILB they’ve had.
How do you see them addressing ILB? FA, Draft, both - and which players do you like?
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Well if you believe what you hear from Gute lately, they think Burks could still be an answer at ILB. He will at least be around to try and win the job, but I don't think the Packers will or should bank on him doing so. I don't expect you to follow my ramblings, but I do believe that ILB is a position where the Packers have had a glaring weakness far too long and think it deserves more attention than others might.
They will still need to at least replace Martinez at the Mike. I think you need to do this through Free Agency. The job is just too important and technical to hand to a rookie. I will leave the "who" to Gute and the Packers. I think that goes beyond what we see on film, as you have to find not only a good player, but your defensive QB to replace Martinez.
If either drop to them, I would like to see the Packers use their first pick in the draft on Murray or Queen to compete against Burks for the other ILB position. I doubt that both fall to 30, but there is a chance one does.
I agree with your commentary. Holding out hope for Burks seems like a fool’s errand, with all due respect to Gluten. Maybe he does have the talent, but that does no good on the injury list. And FA is the best way to address ILB. It’s been a glaring weakness and they need someone with NFL experience. I’m not sure if Queen or Murray drop to #30. They’re logical first round picks. WR can be addressed in RD 2. The FA market for WRs seems lacking.
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Burks only playing a total of 57 snaps on defense from week 5 on while being healthy enough to line up on a majority of special teams plays isn't a good sign for him moving forward, especially as the Packers had a glaring need at inside linebacker last season.
Yeah I don’t think Burks is more than just a guy at ILB. Maybe if they add a stud in FA (Corey Littleton) they keep him as a backup. Burks just hasn’t shown me anything. I don’t know his STs stats so maybe he provides some value there.
My hopes for Burks went down significantly after not being able to find more time at ILB given the circumstances last year.
Yeah and it tells you what the coaches are seeing, which is a reflection of practices. Burks is certainly athletic and looks the part. But we’ve seen plenty of those guys. That’s why I’m a skeptic when it comes to the combine. There are a lot of very athletic guys at the combine. Playing the game? That’s a different matter.
And Burks has had two years now. Either play him in situations where he can be successful (and there aren’t many), or give someone else a chance. Unfortunately, the draft isn’t particularly rich in ILBs once you get past Simmons, Queen, and Murray, all likely to be gone before pick #30. Maybe Baun is a possibility. I’d rather Gluten takes a shot at Littleton in FA. He won’t be cheap.......
I'm not done with him by any means, he's certainly athletic enough to become a player. I know he's had some injuries that have slowed progress, but there were opportunities to take some snaps last year and he didn't take many despite being healthy.
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Has he ever coached? Would he be good at it? Teaching is a whole set of skills apart from being able to do what you are teaching. I dont think there is anything to point to Driver being a good coach. The fact that he hasnt gotten into probably means he doesnt have an interest in it.
Working and training with underprivileged athletic teens is a far cry from an assistant NFL coach.
that's fair, and you may be right. I think he'd be good because of the player he built himself into during his career. He wasn't the much heralded star that had his spot handed to him. He mastered his craft and started from scratch. I think those kind of guys can be good coaches. That being said, I have no idea if he'd be good or if he's interested. I would realm just like the position filled since ita been open more than month and I don't like it.
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When Burks finally came back from his injury, that starting job was his for the taking. Martinez on his way out, Goodson playing "meh". That to me says a lot that he couldn't jump in and seize it. Now maybe he was still recovering from his shoulder injury, but he seemed to play a lot of special teams, 249 snaps. Given he was was second on the team in snaps taken on Special Teams, I have to believe that the shoulder couldn't have been bothering him too much and not what was keeping him off the field on defense.
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Burks will receive a chance to compete for a roster spot once again but there's a decent chance he won't make the team based on his lack of snaps last season.
MLF mentioned during the combine that a wide receiver coach will be hired before the start of the season. I don't feel the need to be worried about it.
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Of all the things to worry about, this is very far down the list.
Of course they're going to hire a WR coach. I mean, does that even need to be said? Who even asked LaFleur that? Idiotic.
Of course they're going to hire a WR coach. I mean, does that even need to be said? Who even asked LaFleur that? Idiotic.
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There are teams in the NFL that don't have a coach solely designated as wide receivers coach.
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True, but MLF could for example have Hackett work with the wide receivers as well and not add a position coach, which was the whole point of the discussion.
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The Packers have announced the following coaching staff changes:
The team has named Butch Barry senior analyst and promoted Luke Getsy to quarterbacks/passing game coordinator and Jason Vrable to wide receivers coach.
The team has named Butch Barry senior analyst and promoted Luke Getsy to quarterbacks/passing game coordinator and Jason Vrable to wide receivers coach.
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Promote within i guess. Doesn't seem like much of a change. Kind of like we often saw under the TT and MM reign, just a reshuffling of titles and responsibilities with Getsy and Vrable.
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As a Miami Hurricane fan, I just want to point out that Butch Barry sucked. Now, he didn't have hardly anything to work with, but there wasn't a lot of improvement there either.
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Barry had more success while with the Buccaneers with the team finishing within the top 10 in offense during three of his four season in Tampa.
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