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[BrokenArrow]

Christian Kirk, a relative nobody, just got 4 years 84 million, be interesting to see if GB can get a deal done for Adams

Just tag him and call his bluff. If he wants to be the next Leveon Bell, let him.

 

[swhitset]

Just tag him and call his bluff. If he wants to be the next Leveon Bell, let him.

they tagged him last week.

 

[BrokenArrow]

they tagged him last week.

Yes, they did. I'm saying go no further and call his bluff.

 

[Mondio]

You don't have the NFL Network I take it?

and I never will.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

If GUTE and company thinks this is at all headed to an ugly place - call the Raiders ask for a 2nd and either Hunter Renfrow or Bryan Edwards - then go sign Allen Robinson or Will Fuller in free agency. Cut cobb and tender Lazard. Enter the 2022 season with Robinson or Fuller at #1, Renfrow or Edwards along with Lazard as your #2 and #3 and hopefully an ascending Amari. Also could even add a Day 2 or early Day 3 WR in the draft.

WE CANNOT have this get ugly with Adams. CANNOT.

WE CANNOT enter the season with Fuller as the #1 receiver. Robinson most likely wouldn't be good enough either.

 

[tynimiller]

WE CANNOT enter the season with Fuller as the #1 receiver. Robinson most likely wouldn't be good enough either.

Well actually we can, we just don't prefer that LOL - We agree either scenario would be a downgrade of significant size Capt.

 

[Schultz]

Never have I had Fuller and #1 receiver in the same sentence. I happen to think AROB has something left and if Tyni's trade were to happen then he and Renfrow as 1A & 1B would not bother me.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

“Their most recent offer to Davante Adams would make him easily the NFL’s highest-paid receiver ever on a traditional extension,” Pelissero reported.

Sources: #Packers offered Davante Adams over $23M per year - highest ever for a WR - but declined it.

Packers offered to make Davante Adams highest-paid WR in NFL?

The team's latest offer to Adams would reportedly make him the highest-paid WR ever.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[Pkrjones]

From the article above the sticking point appears to be the structure of the contract and a 5 year deal uses-up Adams' remaining productive years. AR appears to be GB's QB for the next 3 years, so why not make Adams the highest paid WR on a 3 year deal? 3yr/$78mil w/ $50Mil SB. That gives him cap hits (rough, round numbers) of: '22=$18Mil, '23=$26Mil, '24=$34mil. Still allows him another contract at age 32, and allows GB to clear him from the books during the '25 rebuild/retool of the team.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

From the article above the sticking point appears to be the structure of the contract and a 5 year deal uses-up Adams' remaining productive years. AR appears to be GB's QB for the next 3 years, so why not make Adams the highest paid WR on a 3 year deal? 3yr/$78mil w/ $50Mil SB. That gives him cap hits (rough, round numbers) of: '22=$18Mil, '23=$26Mil, '24=$34mil. Still allows him another contract at age 31, and allows GB to clear him from the books during the '25 rebuild/retool of the team.

It wouldn't surprise me if he wants more than $23 M/year and in some way, he and his agent are trying to use the restructure of Hopkins to push for more money. The Christian Kirk signing doesn't help the Packers either.

Happy median for the 2 sides....give him some incentives to make more money and settle on $20M/year. Yes, he potentially has another contract in his future, but he also potentially will start digressing, as well the potential for an injury.

I'm getting tired of these huge contracts, with guaranteed money that ends up roasting the team if a player doesn't live up to it.

 

[tynimiller]

It wouldn't surprise me if he wants more than $23 M/year and in some way, he and his agent are trying to use the restructure of Hopkins to push for more money. The Christian Kirk signing doesn't help the Packers either.

Happy median for the 2 sides....give him some incentives to make more money and settle on $20M/year. Yes, he potentially has another contract in his future, but he also potentially will start digressing, as well the potential for an injury.

I'm getting tired of these huge contracts, with guaranteed money that ends up roasting the team if a player doesn't live up to it.

The Kirk deal is easily quickly refuted by looking at the structure and seeing it is essentially a two year 37M deal - which is still ASININE.

 

[Mondio]

They almost all roast whichever team signs them. Name the last big WR signing that was worth it. if he wants 28M per for 3 guaranteed so he can sign another somewhere else, just trade him there now. I love Adams, but WR's aren't 30M a year players, not worth that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Kirk deal is easily quickly refuted by looking at the structure and seeing it is essentially a two year 37M deal - which is still ASININE.

Right, as is the Hopkins restructure, but I think Davante's eyes have gotten huge. Love the guy, but anything above $20M for a WR seems too high for me and here he refused $23M.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

They almost all roast whichever team signs them. Name the last big WR signing that was worth it. if he wants 28M per for 3 guaranteed so he can sign another somewhere else, just trade him there now. I love Adams, but WR's aren't 30M a year players, not worth that.

Agreed. I always view it this way. What will that money buy you? In the case of Davante, $23M can buy the Packers 2 decent WR's. Will either of them be better than Davante? Probably not, unless you factor in injuries. The Packers need at WR is not just 1 guy, they need 2-3 guys and giving Davante that much money just increases the odds that the Packer will once again field a WR group of Davante + JAG's

 

[Pkrjones]

What will that money buy you? In the case of Davante, $23M can buy the Packers 2 decent WR's. Will either of them be better than Davante? Probably not, unless you factor in injuries. The Packers need at WR is not just 1 guy, they need 2-3 guys and giving Davante that much money just increases the odds that the Packer will once again field a WR group of Davante + JAG's

Exactly!! GB needs a #1 AND a #2 so get what you can for Adams and go shopping for 2 very capable WR's to go along with Lazard & Amari. Good defenses can take-away Adams as we've seen in the past. Give AR 2 good WR's to target 8x each game each, Lazard gets his 4/game, Amari Rodgers gets 4/game and the RB's get 8-10/game and the ball gets spread around keeping D's guessing.

 

[tynimiller]

Exactly!! GB needs a #1 AND a #2 so get what you can for Adams and go shopping for 2 very capable WR's to go along with Lazard & Amari. Good defenses can take-away Adams as we've seen in the past. Give AR 2 good WR's to target 8x each game each, Lazard gets his 4/game, Amari Rodgers gets 4/game and the RB's get 8-10/game and the ball gets spread around keeping D's guessing.

Honestly this has been VERY rare feat for any team over the last two seasons.

In 2021 the lowest number of receptions in a game was 5 (he put up 89 yards that game and three first downs) in week 6 vs Bears.
His lowest yards was the KC game where everyone suffered...and still his 42 yards on 6 receptions included four crucial first downs.
Outside of that game his other lowest was 44 yards against Baltimore where he still on 6 receptions had a TD, and freaking 5 first down catches (clutch).

No team has kept Adams from providing clutch catches and also off the statlines at the same time really in 2021.

2020 his lowest receptions was 3 in week two at Detroit (we BLEW them out) and he got hurt here and wouldn't return till week 6.
He had two full games under 50 yards week 15 vs Carolina and week 17 vs Chicago but in the Bears game on just 6 receptions had 4 first down catches and a TD...Carolina held him to just 7 receptions (not little) but kept him out of the endzone and limited clutch first down catches to just 2.

Carolina in 2020 was the last team I'd argue to someone take away Adams.

Mind you all the games listed we won outside the KC game in 2021 mentioned.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Honestly this has been VERY rare feat for any team over the last two seasons.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, the Packers seem to become very 1 WR centric against good defenses. We saw that against the 49'ers in the playoffs. Ideally, you find a bonafide #2 guy to play with Davante, but if you trade Davante, you probably have enough money to have 2 bonafide #2's and hope Amari and whomever else steps it up a bit.

 

[tynimiller]

While I agree with you to a certain extent, the Packers seem to become very 1 WR centric against good defenses. We saw that against the 49'ers in the playoffs. Ideally, you find a bonafide #2 guy to play with Davante, but if you trade Davante, you probably have enough money to have 2 bonafide #2's and hope Amari and whomever else steps it up a bit.

You know you get no argument against that. I'm just saying Adams has delivered continually despite this.

 

[pacmaniac]

Adams wasn't exactly shut down against the Bucs and the 49ers, but he was shut down enough. He caught 9 passes in each game, but he probably needed to catch 12-15 passes for the Packers to win those games.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Adams wasn't exactly shut down against the Bucs and the 49ers, but he was shut down enough. He caught 9 passes in each game, but he probably needed to catch 12-15 passes for the Packers to win those games.

You are right and actually, the playoff game against the Bucs, Rodgers was able to spread it around to other receivers. Not the case against the 49ers though, unless you include Aaron Jones in the conversation.

If the Packers do retain Adams, I just hope they kind find another receiver that poses coverage issues for the defense. MVS was a bit of a one trick pony and Lazard, while a good blocker, I don't see him as your #2.

 

[tynimiller]

You are right and actually, the playoff game against the Bucs, Rodgers was able to spread it around to other receivers. Not the case against the 49ers though, unless you include Aaron Jones in the conversation.

If the Packers do retain Adams, I just hope they kind find another receiver that poses coverage issues for the defense. MVS was a bit of a one trick pony and Lazard, while a good blocker, I don't see him as your #2.

Lazards efficiency for yards and catches when targeted is incredible. Rodgers trusts him and praised him late last year for a shift in diet and sleep habits showcasing themselves on Sundays - I honestly still want a true bonafide #2 but dangit I love Lazard and his steady consistent performer he is.

 

[Packerbacker1996]

Honestly this has been VERY rare feat for any team over the last two seasons.

In 2021 the lowest number of receptions in a game was 5 (he put up 89 yards that game and three first downs) in week 6 vs Bears.
His lowest yards was the KC game where everyone suffered...and still his 42 yards on 6 receptions included four crucial first downs.
Outside of that game his other lowest was 44 yards against Baltimore where he still on 6 receptions had a TD, and freaking 5 first down catches (clutch).

No team has kept Adams from providing clutch catches and also off the statlines at the same time really in 2021.

2020 his lowest receptions was 3 in week two at Detroit (we BLEW them out) and he got hurt here and wouldn't return till week 6.
He had two full games under 50 yards week 15 vs Carolina and week 17 vs Chicago but in the Bears game on just 6 receptions had 4 first down catches and a TD...Carolina held him to just 7 receptions (not little) but kept him out of the endzone and limited clutch first down catches to just 2.

Carolina in 2020 was the last team I'd argue to someone take away Adams.

Mind you all the games listed we won outside the KC game in 2021 mentioned.

And still no SB wins.
In today's league you can not be 1 receiver team and expect to win SBs.

Also Adams is getting older not younger and as soon as we get a capable #2 and a stud TE his numbers will drop most likely as AR will be able to spread it around.

They offered him what? 23 mil per year and he turned it down?
Let him go. This draft is deep at WR and TE so let's trade down if we have to so we can grab 2-3 capable promising WR and a TE on rookie contracts and spend the money Adams would otherwise suck up to bolster D# and STs.

 

[tynimiller]

And still no SB wins.
In today's league you can not be 1 receiver team and expect to win SBs.

Also Adams is getting older not younger and as soon as we get a capable #2 and a stud TE his numbers will drop most likely as AR will be able to spread it around.

They offered him what? 23 mil per year and he turned it down?
Let him go. This draft is deep at WR and TE so let's trade down if we have to so we can grab 2-3 capable promising WR and a TE on rookie contracts and spend the money Adams would otherwise suck up to bolster D# and STs.

Wasn't saying any of that to defend the concept of isolated vision on Adams - merely that even my utter disdain for not looking to others much at all (Adams first read, Jones second and then back to Adams is typical) Adams is simply incredibly productive regardless.

 

[Schultz]

No need for a top tier TE as long as Rodgers is the QB. He doesn't throw the ball very much to the TE.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No need for a top tier TE as long as Rodgers is the QB. He doesn't throw the ball very much to the TE.

Actually, he does, when he has a legit TE target.