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That didn't sound right so checked. This isn't true his dead cap even if cut is $1.575M - his 2022 cap hit for the year is $2.445M

You save less than $1M cutting him ($870,000 to be exact).

So if you cut him it costs us $1.575 + then sign him to a 1.5M - Lewis's cost for the 2022 year would be more than his original 2022 cap hit before cutting.

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And yet you proposed a move that would cost us more with Lewis because you didn't understand the cap......truly confused atm.
Apparently he has no grasp of the cap, but somehow feels qualified to wine about how badly it is being mismanaged.
 

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Yet....it should have struck you as odd that a player of his experience and the contract he signed last year (inclusive of two void years) that you claim to have despised would surely not have $0 dead cap figures on it right?

OTC focuses vastly too much on their managing tools and all the options they think they have ironed out in my experience that I think their actual data can become issue filled. That said I do rely on spotrac more but usually check figures between the two and hate it when they don't match because then I got to research deeper.
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Once a player is headed towards free agency most of them will entertain offers from other teams. Unfortunately nearly every other team in the league will have more cap space to sign players this offseason than the Packers. No matter what happens with Rodgers.
So far this has not really been the case.

While it is true we are low on initial cap.. I don’t believe the vast majority of players want to move.
Every other team has not signed Rodgers, Adams, Preston and Campbell. You could say many of our remaining options are peanuts compared to those contracts. I obviously don’t need to add them up for you as you’ve watched them $$$pop $$$

Players are not nearly as eager to run from a loaded team as you guessed, even if for the potential of a bit more money. A bird in hand in a premium nest is a very powerful lure. I’m thankful that these guys have wise representation and they understand the long term nuances of contract decisions and all the variables affecting them. It’s not a singular idea that drives the approach or finish (starting 2022 cap volume) etc..)
 
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Already at $24M in dead money. What a total mismanagement of the cap.
If you believe that, you also believe Packer management should have foreseen the global pandemic and should have not decided to go all in for the last years of the Rodgers era.
 
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Lazard given second round tender. I’ll add him in a bit along with other most likely announcements
 

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Lazard is a good keep. He shouldn't be more than a 4th or 5th option in the passing game, but he does a lot of dirty work for the offense in condensed formations.
 
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Lazard is a good keep. He shouldn't be more than a 4th or 5th option in the passing game, but he does a lot of dirty work for the offense in condensed formations.

Exactly. You will not find a WR in the draft I'd argue that will replace all he does "not receiving the ball". His production is easily found and surpassed arguably...but that doesn't mean it is an upgrade persay.
 
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For those questioning Lazard let's look at Kirks last 3 years vs Lazard's last 3 years:

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Which is which? The one is targeted (bottom) a LOT more, nearly double the average targets per year of the top guy. BUT in those targets the top guy hauls in a few percentage ticks more, averages 1.2 more yards per target and 1.4 more per reception - illustrating he is a lot more consistent and efficient. Both produce similar touchdowns.

Lazard is the top...and we will most likely be paying him just under $4M for 2022...the bottom is Kirk and he will make nearly $40M in 2022 and 2023.

Yes Kirk was overpaid...but still.....even ignoring all the blocking and such that Lazard excels at and purely looking at receiving production alone - he is grossly underpaid to the market for him at sub $4M according to the league (Cedrick Wilson's contract is another to look at and compare...there will be more in this FA to illustrate it too).
 
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It's a good thing Rodgers made his decision so quickly and signed his new contract. Gives the Packers plenty of time to work things out with Davante and get all the other deals done before Wed. You know, now that they have their 2 main pieces set.

Once again, I told you the Packers were about to save close to $20 million in cap space no matter Rodgers' decision weeks ago and that's exactly what happened. The front office knew that for months, they didn't have to wait until he signed his contract yesterday to figure it out.

So far this has not really been the case.

While it is true we are low on initial cap.. I don’t believe the vast majority of players want to move.
Every other team has not signed Rodgers, Adams, Preston and Campbell. You could say many of our remaining options are peanuts compared to those contracts. I obviously don’t need to add them up for you as you’ve watched them $$$pop $$$

Players are not nearly as eager to run from a loaded team as you guessed, even if for the potential of a bit more money. A bird in hand in a premium nest is a very powerful lure. I’m thankful that these guys have wise representation and they understand the long term nuances of contract decisions and all the variables affecting them. It’s not a singular idea that drives the approach or finish (starting 2022 cap volume) etc..)

I was obviously talking about teams having more cap space to sign free agents from other teams.
 

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Surprised at the lack of news when sportrac says we are still 8 million over the cap
The NFL's cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times, and the salary floor is also a hard floor. Penalties for violating or circumventing the cap regulations include fines of up to $5 million for each violation, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks.

Like I said, Murphy, Gute and Ball are headed to Mexico! ;)

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The Packers didn't cut anyone at the deadline, which likely means that more new of restructures/extensions will be breaking shortly (Alexander? Amos? Clark? Cobb?).
 

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The NFL's cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times, and the salary floor is also a hard floor. Penalties for violating or circumventing the cap regulations include fines of up to $5 million for each violation, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks.

Like I said, Murphy, Gute and Ball are headed to Mexico! ;)

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not at all times. i think after the SB and until the start of the league year it really doesn't matter what your cap is. Still, according to OTC 5 teams are currently over the cap. The new league year has started. I thought penalties would be swift and automatic if teams were not under the cap by Yesterday afternoon. What am I missing?
 

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not at all times. i think after the SB and until the start of the league year it really doesn't matter what your cap is. Still, according to OTC 5 teams are currently over the cap. The new league year has started. I thought penalties would be swift and automatic if teams were not under the cap by Yesterday afternoon. What am I missing?
I belive they all had by 3:00 today, which is the start of the new league year. The Packers and other teams are probably under, just haven't gone public with it.
 

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Just read something interesting. It appears that though Campbell has a contract and will be staying in Green Bay, it hasn't been submitted to the league yet. That and the Cobb move has enabled the Packers to get under the cap until they can make other necessary moves.
 

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I wonder what it would take to get Jared Cook back to Green Bay. He played for $3.5M last season....he's 34 and might have a few good years left.
 
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Just read something interesting. It appears that though Campbell has a contract and will be staying in Green Bay, it hasn't been submitted to the league yet. That and the Cobb move has enabled the Packers to get under the cap until they can make other necessary moves.

Cobb move almost got us under but not quite so Campbell held off a moment
 

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