A.J. Dillon tests positive for COVID-19 [OP from 11/2020]

[AKCheese]

Whoa whoa nothing dude said went against "science" he simply used the stats that are available in the mainstream media

Stat #1 total cases: 266,103,394

Stat #2 total deaths: 5,270,516

Stat #3 overall mortality rate: (total deaths divided by total cases) .01980627124

You cant argue against the numbers provided by "medical science" can you?

Now im not saying covid isnt real or is cover to inject people with microchips im just saying those are the numbers plain and simple...and while over 5 million died of covid since it began...over 8 million died of starvation in 2021.

And no matter what you think you gotta realize starvation deaths are 100% preventable while covid deaths are not, so tell me why have we not stopped starvation from claiming so many lives every year?

But on another note Hawaii sounds awesome!!! I hope to make it there someday, have a great time, im sure you will...

Well as Dr Dante pointed out I am in a cult, the cult of the educated. Hopefully you realize you multiply that result by 100 to get the percentage ~2%. Those numbers are worldwide, the US with much better healthcare available for most of us do somewhat better at around 1.6% mortality. Just helping you guys with the math. (Engineer by training here)

 

[thequick12]

Well as Dr Dante pointed out I am in a cult, the cult of the educated. Hopefully you realize you multiply that result by 100 to get the percentage ~2%. Those numbers are worldwide, the US with much better healthcare available for most of us do somewhat better at around 1.6% mortality. Just helping you guys with the math. (Engineer by training here)

Who are you helping with math?

I was taught you move the decimal 2 places to the right to get the percentage in elementry school but hey multiple by 100 its the same thing...

And yeah haha I doubt youre in a cult but if you are thats your choice and I hope your happy with it...

And yes those numbers are worldwide those are the ones that matter were all human inhabitants of earth.

The starvation numbers are also worldwide. So tell me why do we allow that to occur, when its 100% preventable ?

 

[AKCheese]

Who are you helping with math?

I was taught you move the decimal 2 places to the right to get the percentage in elementry school but hey multiple by 100 its the same thing...

And yeah haha I doubt youre in a cult but if you are thats your choice and I hope your happy with it...

And yes those numbers are worldwide those are the ones that matter were all human inhabitants of earth.

The starvation numbers are also worldwide. So tell me why do we allow that to occur, when its 100% preventable ?

Largely because people are greedy and hateful (along with logistical obstacles of getting the food to where it is needed). But you do bring up a good point. From my Catholic upbringing I recall something about a camel, the eye of a needle and the kingdom of heaven. So I wonder how the bible thumpers square their 70” flat panel and $65K luxury SUV with their chances at the pearly gates LOL. Honestly at the end of the day I really don’t care what other people do as long as it doesn’t affect me. Where I live now we DO have mask mandates but a lot of people ignore them. By the hats and t-shirts they wear you can tell what cult they belong to. I just observe from a safe distance and enjoy my day (as I do NFL games). We’ll emerge from this pandemic at some point. Unfortunately it will take a lot longer with a lot more physical, mental and economic agony than would occur if people acted more intelligently. As Sir Winston Churchill pointed out “America can be depended upon to do the right thing, after they have tried every other option”.

 

[Dantés]

If you’re double vaxxed, boosted, and still masking and social distancing AND jumping down the throat of anyone who posts data that doesn’t jive with the hysteria narrative, you’re either completely duped by bad information or you’re in a cult.

 

[OldSchool101]

I’m a weird one. I got shotted, but I also defend those that want freedom of choice in the matter. I don’t like setting a precedent that allows any governing body to force people to make medical choices. That’s setting us common people up to be oppressed, just like the examples of history.

I’m a weird one. I took the shot so when I go in front of my Lord, I have adequate Defense. I can tell him I was trying to put myself as a servants heart to protect others because that what he instructed us to do. To each to lay down our lives for others.
I absolutely hate getting shotted, most hate it. I think we all want this to go away. I’ve never met a person yet that said they looked forward to a shot and wearing a mask. We are all in this together. 74.2% of 5+ are now vaccinated and the number is growing. That doesn’t sound like a cult to me, it sounds like a vast majority of people who are doing their best to care for other people.

 

[Dantés]

The vaccine doesn’t prevent one from getting or passing the virus. Far and away, its key virtue is that it mitigates the symptoms and, generally, prevents severe illness and death.

Therefore, vaxxed people are a much greater risk to unvaxxed people than vice versa.

This is quite a convenient situation, as people who want the protection of a vaccine can get it, and people who do not are virtually only risking their own health, not the health of others.

The weird part is how much the covidian religious zealots hate those who choose not to vax, or who oppose vax mandates. If you’re protected and someone else makes a different choice, what’s that to you?

 

[AKCheese]

If you’re double vaxxed, boosted, and still masking and social distancing AND jumping down the throat of anyone who posts data that doesn’t jive with the hysteria narrative, you’re either completely duped by bad information or you’re in a cult.

I’m double vaxxed boosted , wear a mask where required or appropriate and social distance because I’m an educated intelligent man who cares about my health and that of my fellow man. I’m not jumping down the throat of anyone but I do think that trying to pass off wrong information based on political agendas vs factual information based on the best available medical science is both dangerous and counter productive. Cheers!

 

[AKCheese]

The vaccine doesn’t prevent one from getting or passing the virus. Far and away, its key virtue is that it mitigates the symptoms and, generally, prevents severe illness and death.

Therefore, vaxxed people are a much greater risk to unvaxxed people than vice versa.

This is quite a convenient situation, as people who want the protection of a vaccine can get it, and people who do not are virtually only risking their own health, not the health of others.

The weird part is how much the covidian religious zealots hate those who choose not to vax, or who oppose vax mandates. If you’re protected and someone else makes a different choice, what’s that to you?

No the vaccine doesn’t prevent one from getting COVID 100%…. It greatly reduces the odds. How are vaccinated people a risk to unvaccinated people (would get a DNF … does not follow… on any engineering evaluation). I could care less who chooses to vaccinate or not. That’s not to say there shouldn’t be consequences such as staying out of certain workplaces. As a 24 year Army veteran I can’t count the number of vaccines I got to protect myself and my fellow soldiers so we in turn could protect your right to not get vaccinated and or not wear a mask… not to say there won’t be consequences for your actions, like stay out of the store… or get another job. Freedom does not mean freedom from consequences. Tell a racist joke at work… free country… freedom of speech… you still might (should) lose your job

 

[Dantés]

I’m double vaxxed boosted , wear a mask where required or appropriate and social distance because I’m an educated intelligent man who cares about my health and that of my fellow man. I’m not jumping down the throat of anyone but I do think that trying to pass off wrong information based on political agendas vs factual information based on the best available medical science is both dangerous and counter productive. Cheers!

You resurrected a really old, factual post of mine to scold me for my opinion and mock me as though I was trying to claim some sort of medical degree (again, it seems to be fine when lay people express opinions as long as they’re the opinions you like).

So you can save this backtracking ********. Your agenda is pretty clear.

 

[Dantés]

No the vaccine doesn’t prevent one from getting COVID 100%…. It greatly reduces the odds. How are vaccinated people a risk to unvaccinated people (would get a DNF … does not follow… on any engineering evaluation). I could care less who chooses to vaccinate or not. That’s not to say there shouldn’t be consequences such as staying out of certain workplaces. As a 24 year Army veteran I can’t count the number of vaccines I got to protect myself and my fellow soldiers so we in turn could protect your right to not get vaccinated and or not wear a mask… not to say there won’t be consequences for your actions, like stay out of the store… or get another job. Freedom does not mean freedom from consequences. Tell a racist joke at work… free country… freedom of speech… you still might (should) lose your job

If you want people to read your rants, maybe make them a little more concise and break up the paragraphs here and there.

 

[Dantés]

Vaccinated people are a greater risk to unvaccinated people in that they still pass the virus, and unvaccinated people don’t have any mitigating immunity (assuming they don’t have natural immunity).

The point of that statement isn’t that vaccinated people are somehow bad or a hazard. The point is that the way these vaccines work, vaccinated people don’t need to worry about unvaccinated people. It’s totally irrational.

 

[Schultz]

You’re in a cult.

I know you are but what am I?

 

[Dantés]

I know you are but what am I?

The cleverest poster on this dadgum forum, apparently.

 

[Voyageur]

Something I read on Facebook. Thought people might want to see it.

I refuse to put winter tires because:
It’s my car, my choice, my freedom.
The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (you amaze me).
My neighbor Robert had an accident after putting on his winter tires.
Some are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their Ineffectiveness.
We do not know what they are made of.
The tire giants scare us with winter just to enrich themselfs.
In fact, the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.
If I have tires, the government can track me in the snow.
Educate yourself, open your eyes, stop being sheep!
This year, winter tires, I say no

 

[Dantés]

Oh an analogy. Now everything is crystal clear. If only someone had analogized this situation sooner.

 

[Poppa San]

Vaccinated people are a greater risk to unvaccinated people in that they still pass the virus, and unvaccinated people don’t have any mitigating immunity (assuming they don’t have natural immunity).

The point of that statement isn’t that vaccinated people are somehow bad or a hazard. The point is that the way these vaccines work, vaccinated people don’t need to worry about unvaccinated people. It’s totally irrational.

Last week unvaccinated I tested positive. I caught Covid from a vaccinated asymptomatic junior high schooler that I was mentoring for the deer hunt. He caught it from his "vaccinated because of his job" father who had shrugged it off as a cold. I did not get it from my dad 14 months ago when he had it. Nor did I get it 10 months ago when I slept every night in the same bed with my wife when she had it. My "vaccinated as soon as he was eligible" 21 year old got it from me. My unvaccinated 28 year old is still symptom free.

 

[AKCheese]

Last week unvaccinated I tested positive. I caught Covid from a vaccinated asymptomatic junior high schooler that I was mentoring for the deer hunt. He caught it from his "vaccinated because of his job" father who had shrugged it off as a cold. I did not get it from my dad 14 months ago when he had it. Nor did I get it 10 months ago when I slept every night in the same bed with my wife when she had it. My "vaccinated as soon as he was eligible" 21 year old got it from me. My unvaccinated 28 year old is still symptom free.

Well there that proves ….. what?!?!?!??? You guys are hilarious

 

[tynimiller]

Oh Dear Lord folks...had a friend get west nile and nearly die and is dealing with the fallout medically....very atypical type situation to the norm for someone of his age (32) and health situation (dude was a marathon runner, basketball two times a week and cardio addict).

How hard is it for people to just stop being a **** to each other and running full tilt crazy with outlier situations or examples.

Covid is real and it CAN suck or be nothing if you get it. *It rocked me HARD
It can and has killed.
It typically won't kill the younger and the healthier folks.
Vaccination lessons the chances of impact.
It is your choice and well within your rights to get vaccinated or not.
You'RE a **** if you intentionally disrespect someone else for their choice.
You don't love people more if you get vaccinated or wear a mask.
You don't hate people more if you don't get vaccinated or wear a mask.

Respect folks, it isn't that freaking hard.

ALSO LEAVE THE COVID **** OUT OF FOOTBALL DISCUSSIONS.

 

[Voyageur]

I agree.
Covid should stay out of football.
It should stay out of our schools.
Out of our businesses.
Out of our lives.
Make it so.
Get vaccinated.
That's how deadly viruses end up dying.
History shows that.

THE END!

 

[Dantés]

Well there that proves ….. what?!?!?!??? You guys are hilarious

Lol.

If you want to try and prove your point with anecdotes you can’t get all bent out of shape when others use them.

 

[Dantés]

I agree.
Covid should stay out of football.
It should stay out of our schools.
Out of our businesses.
Out of our lives.
Make it so.
Get vaccinated.
That's how deadly viruses end up dying.
History shows that.

THE END!

There is no evidence that vaccination will eradicate covid. It appears that it will become like the seasonal flu, for which we’ve had shots for decades, which sometimes help and sometimes don’t.

This is the big problem. Some people are deluded into thinking we can totally end covid. This is naive and without basis. But they believe it irrationally and are willing to sacrifice people’s livelihoods, the economy, freedoms, relationships, and more in the name of this goal.

People who see the reality know that we need to learn how best to live with it, with whatever reasonable mitigation that might entail.

 

[Voyageur]

We didn't eliminate polio. It exists, but because the vast majority are vaccinated, it's ability to pass from one to another has been greatly reduced. You say that vaccination doesn't reduce transmission? The issue with that statement is that it totally avoids the issue of severity of condition if caught. We're talking the death rate, and the hospitalization rate, as well as the death rate from other ailments because hospital space is limited due to high covid numbers needing intensive care.

As for those transmission rates, there is evidence that the spread rate is less with vaccinated people. It should not be ignored. Covid Spread

The sacrifice of livelihoods, freedoms, relationships, and the rest is not "caused" by getting vaccinated. That's absurd. We can only return to a ****** life after we've done what's necessary to insure that all people are as reasonably safe as possible from this disease spread.

How strong do I believe in this? I have a son who is not vaccinated, and quite frankly, we haven't seen him and his family since this started, and won't, until after they are all vaccinated. That's my belief.

 

[thequick12]

Vaccination lessons the chances of impact.
It is your choice and well within your rights to get vaccinated or not.

Very well said...

My only issue is that yes Aaron Rodgers and other people who are very financial stable can choose to not get vaccinated so its well within their rights

But being realistic the majority of people dont' have that right because they need to keep working everyday to be able to survive. And you can say oh you can quit your job if it requires vaccination and just get another one but saying that is obviously unrealistic

Its close to 50/50 on those who wanted to get vaccinated and those who had to get vaccinated to survive financially

 

[Voyageur]

Very well said...

My only issue is that yes Aaron Rodgers and other people who are very financial stable can choose to not get vaccinated so its well within their rights

But being realistic the majority of people dont' have that right because they need to keep working everyday to be able to survive. And you can say oh you can quit your job if it requires vaccination and just get another one but saying that is obviously unrealistic

Its close to 50/50 on those who wanted to get vaccinated and those who had to get vaccinated to survive financially

50% is incorrect. The figure who are most opposed to vaccination are around 20%. They're the ones stopping the program from being successful.

Vaccination opposition

 

[Voyageur]

There's a reason the death rates in states that supported Trump are higher than other states. I think people should be able to figure that one out pretty easily, considering that the vaccination rates are lowest in those states as well.