A.J. Dillon tests positive for COVID-19 [OP from 11/2020]

[Deleted member 6794]

I think you are projecting other teams philosophies on rookie usage onto the Packers. We bring rookies along slowly. I know many here don’t like that but rookies here mostly play when established starters get injured and there has been plenty of that this year.

That's simply not true at all. As far as I can remember the Packers were among the league leaders in rookie snaps played for several years during Thompson's tenure as the team's general manager.

Let's take a look at the playing time of some first year players since Gutekunst took over:

Jaire Alexander 87%
Josh Jackson 68%
Darnell Savage 83%
Elgton Jenkins 89%

If draft picks have enough talent they receive significant playing time from the get-go.

In addition there's a huge difference between bringing along rookies slowly and a first round pick being inactive every single game.

 

[PikeBadger]

That's simply not true at all. As far as I can remember the Packers were among the league leaders in rookie snaps played for several years during Thompson's tenure as the team's general manager.

Let's take a look at the playing time of some first year players since Gutekunst took over:

Jaire Alexander 87%
Josh Jackson 68%
Darnell Savage 83%
Elgton Jenkins 89%

If draft picks have enough talent they receive significant playing time from the get-go.

In addition there's a huge difference between bringing along rookies slowly and a first round pick being inactive every single game.

How does that compare to the other 31 teams?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

So as not to derail this thread, I'm going to shut up. Will IM you my thoughts privately.

For a minute I did think "What the hell has Will i am" got to do with this ?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I’m just a lowly nurse, not a doctor. But I can tell you that within the medical community there are plenty of doctors/nurses and other healthcare professionals on both ends of the spectrum and biases/beliefs definitely play a role. I literally have witnessed healthcare professionals say this is a political hoax as well as others who think this pandemic is the scariest thing ever.

I actually find your opening statement annoying. Without nursing staff, auxilliary staff and the like, hospitals wouldn`t function. Don`t sell yourself short.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In addition there's a huge difference between bringing along rookies slowly and a first round pick being inactive every single game.

For the most part, aren't most back up QB's "inactive" most games, whether they are the #2 or the #3? Especially when your starting QB is named Aaron Rodgers? Again, I would rather see a guy with some actual NFL reps under his belt be the one jogging out there in a tight 4th Q game then seeing a Rookie with zero NFL snaps have to start his career.

BTW, I believe Craig Nall was the backup to Favre when Rodgers was a rookie.

"Backup QB: Not knowing how much longer Brett Favre will continue to play the Packers addressed their future needs at the position by drafting Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in the 2004 draft. Rodgers appears to be an exceptional value having fallen from the potential first pick in the draft to the Packers. Rodgers has a strong arm, good accuracy and could potentially take over next year as the Packers trigger man. Despite his long-term potential, it was apparent in training camp that Rodgers isn't ready for prime time yet. As a result, Craig Nall will once again serve as Favre's game day backup"

Given that the Packers went 4-12 that year, it doesn't surprise me that Rodgers eventually got some snaps.

 

[GleefulGary]

Yes and since he hasn't played yet, the fact it's a prediction should be implied...or do I literally have to say, "since he's only played 29 snaps, this is a prediction"

He only has to be better than blake martinez, I'm saying he is best since Nick Barnett, desmond bishop basically and they weren't really that good​

You said “he is...” which is present tense. If you had wanted it to sound like a prediction, you would/should have said “I think he will be...”


There’s today’s English lesson for free. Next time you gotta pay.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

How does that compare to the other 31 teams?

I don't have the time to figure that out. Feel free to do it on your own as Pro Football Reference provides the necessary information.

For the most part, aren't most back up QB's "inactive" most games, whether they are the #2 or the #3? Especially when your starting QB is named Aaron Rodgers?

True, that doesn't change that I'm concerned about Love not having been able to move past Boyle on the depth chart.

Aaron Rodgers being the Packers starting quarterback should have resulted in Gutekunst selecting another position to actually improve this year's roster.

Again, I would rather see a guy with some actual NFL reps under his belt be the one jogging out there in a tight 4th Q game then seeing a Rookie with zero NFL snaps have to start his career.

Do you honestly feel confident about Boyle being the backup after four career pass attempts??? I would understand that point if the team had a veteran sitting on the bench but Boyle doesn't have a lot pf experience either.

BTW, I believe Craig Nall was the backup to Favre when Rodgers was a rookie.

"Backup QB: Not knowing how much longer Brett Favre will continue to play the Packers addressed their future needs at the position by drafting Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in the 2004 draft. Rodgers appears to be an exceptional value having fallen from the potential first pick in the draft to the Packers. Rodgers has a strong arm, good accuracy and could potentially take over next year as the Packers trigger man. Despite his long-term potential, it was apparent in training camp that Rodgers isn't ready for prime time yet. As a result, Craig Nall will once again serve as Favre's game day backup"

Gary already posted that link. I found an article in which Bob McGinn mentioned that Rodgers was the backup from the get-go despite being outplayed by Nall in the preseason. Unfortunately I can't post it here as it's from a charged website.

 

[Dantés]

Bob McGinn's editor's niece told me that Rodgers was the 3rd stringer until minute 42 of the week 3 tilt at home against the Buccaneers. He reportedly looked at McCarthy and said:

"Hey, in 15 years there is going to be a huge internet spat about whether I was the second or third stringer to start the year. If you make me the backup right now, it will make the kid they draft to replace me look a lot worse. I'd appreciate that, because I already freaking hate that guy. Also, speaking of the future, you may want to lay off the cinnabon."

McCarthy was distracted, as Favre had just thrown his 3rd interception and waved Rodgers off and said, "Yeah, whatever you say, kid."

And that's how that happened. And I for one am thoroughly discouraged that Jordan Love hasn't made a similar move up the depth chart year. I feel that they should just move on at this point. Bench Rodgers, cut Love, play Boyle, and try to get as high of a pick as possible.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Why wasn’t Love able to move past Boyle for the #2 spot? Seems a round 1 pick would/should be able to do that.

I don’t care all that much really. I’d rather Gluten picked a WR or a defensive player like Queen. And Rodgers play this year shows he’s not quite ready to be put out to pasture yet. Yeah, Gluten couldn’t have known that before the draft, but he showed no faith at all in Rodgers, IMO.

 

[tynimiller]

It has been VERY hush about how Dillon is doing...the longer this goes the more I get concerned Covid hit him much harder than most, especially most his age.

Anyone have any update?

 

[gopkrs]

Was it Myles Jack who just came back from covid? And said it kicked his ***.

 

[Dantés]

Was it Myles Jack who just came back from covid? And said it kicked his ***.

Even some young, healthy people seem to have some longer residual effects and lethargy.

We don't really know, but it could have something to do with certain base levels of immunity people have on board from getting other, similar viruses in their recent past. Having had the common cold in the months just prior to getting COVID seems to help a person deal with it better than those whose immune systems have been relatively untested for a while.

 

[El Guapo]

Hopefully Dillon is able to make a full recovery without any long-term effects that hamper him the rest of his life.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

the longer this goes the more I get concerned Covid hit him much harder than most, especially most his age.

You just never know. I have friends who lost a 23 year old daughter, no pre-existing conditions to COVID 2 weeks ago. My best friends wife just lost her step dad last week to complications from it and her biological Dad is barely hanging on in Hospice with it. My parents both tested positive last week and are doing just fine. Its a mix bag of **** and you just don't know how it will hit someone.

 

[Heyjoe4]

You just never know. I have friends who lost a 23 year old daughter, no pre-existing conditions to COVID 2 weeks ago. My best friends wife just lost her step dad last week to complications from it and her biological Dad is barely hanging on in Hospice with it. My parents both tested positive last week and are doing just fine. Its a mix bag of **** and you just don't know how it will hit someone.

And for these reasons, and until we get a vaccine widely distributed, it's best to lay low, stay at home......... we all know the drill. It's just not worth messing with.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

we all know the drill

Do we all?

 

[Half Empty]

Know and employ the drill are different scenarios.

 

[El Guapo]

Unfortunately, some of us are forced to ignore the drill due to our jobs.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Unfortunately, some of us are forced to ignore the drill due to our jobs.

And some choose to ignore it due to thinking they're essential. My buddy sells insurance. "Essential" he goes in to work every day.

 

[swhitset]

And some choose to ignore it due to thinking they're essential. My buddy sells insurance. "Essential" he goes in to work every day.

Do you consider paying your mortgage and putting food on the table for your family essential? I do.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Do we all?

I think by now we all know the drill as far as staying safe from Covid infection. That doesn't mean everyone follows the drill, an important distinction.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Do you consider paying your mortgage and putting food on the table for your family essential? I do.

Umm, obviously? What's your point?

 

[tynimiller]

Guys can we stick to football related covid or dillon specifically here, broad covid discussions better placed elsewhere.

 

[gopkrs]

A bunch of it is just Trumpism and also Republican party ism. They don't really understand that freedom also means taking responsibility. They are now trying to change the focus but w/o ever admitting they were full of it. imho

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Guys can we stick to football related covid or dillon specifically here, broad covid discussions better placed elsewhere.

Amen.

I think Dillion should have worn a mask and taken COVID more seriously. His careless handling of it might have been seen by his 74,209,290 followers and influenced how they played or watched Football.