2025 Offseason - Contract Statuses To Avoid Confusions...

[gopkrs]

Of course it is all based on the health of his body. Which is unknown by everyone except either him and his camp or him and his camp and some of the organization.

Well yes, of course. But you sometimes don't mention these things when throwing out ideas.

 

[tynimiller]

Well yes, of course. But you sometimes don't mention these things when throwing out ideas.

LOL it was an oversight of assumption on my part was all.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't think there is any hurry to make a decision on Jaire. From what I can see, he doesn't get a Roster Bonus like he did last year on 3/15/24, that was for $8M. His roster bonuses in 2025 are all Per Game Active Bonus's (totaling $267K, if he is active for every game).

I think free agency and the draft will give us some clue as to what is going on with Jaire. His knee and health is definitely a factor, but I don't see the Packers purging him via a trade, just to save $6M on the cap.

I also think that @tynimiller is correct. There might be the possibility that they rework his current deal, to make it reflect his availability or lack there of.

The thing with Jaire and he knows it, if the Packers won't pay him, there will be another team that will. That's is just the way business is done in the NFL, especially at key positions like CB.

 

[gopkrs]

I don't think there is any hurry to make a decision on Jaire. From what I can see, he doesn't get a Roster Bonus like he did last year on 3/15/24, that was for $8M. His roster bonuses in 2025 are all Per Game Active Bonus's (totaling $267K, if he is active for every game).

I think free agency and the draft will give us some clue as to what is going on with Jaire. His knee and health is definitely a factor, but I don't see the Packers purging him via a trade, just to save $6M on the cap.

I also think that @tynimiller is correct. There might be the possibility that they rework his current deal, to make it reflect his availability or lack there of.

The thing with Jaire and he knows it, if the Packers won't pay him, there will be another team that will. That's is just the way business is done in the NFL, especially at key positions like CB.

Pay him when? Jaire is signed through 2026. I think all GMs would want to see him play awhile before they give him a bunch of money. In the event he is playing well, we would probably want to keep him. Of course that would depend on a bunch of factors. So we will have to see what happens next year. Any talk about him right now seems way early.

 

[tynimiller]

Pay him when? Jaire is signed through 2026. I think all GMs would want to see him play awhile before they give him a bunch of money. In the event he is playing well, we would probably want to keep him. Of course that would depend on a bunch of factors. So we will have to see what happens next year. Any talk about him right now seems way early.

If he is cut he’s getting paid. Everyone in the league knows this…will it be like $25M/yr…of course not unless massively backloaded contract but he’d easily be a top 5 CB signing likely given age, and ability proven when healthy - he’d of course have to pass physicals for a team.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If he is cut he’s getting paid. Everyone in the league knows this…will it be like $25M/yr…of course not unless massively backloaded contract but he’d easily be a top 5 CB signing likely given age, and ability proven when healthy - he’d of course have to pass physicals for a team.

Spot on and good answer. Even if the Packers try to trade him, his agent probably gets involved and wants a new contract before Jaire puts his "stamp of approval" on the trade. Football contracts these days don't seem to mean a heck of a lot.

Top players have been given much more control over where they play and when they get new contracts. Again, just how the NFL seems to roll. Which tells you just how much money a lot of these teams have just "laying around".

Obviously, Jaire's injury history isn't going to help him a lot, but the surgery he had to repair a torn posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) isn't all that big of a deal either. He's probably already working out on it and by Spring will be rearing and ready to go. As fans we sometimes look at injuries as the curse of death. I guarantee you that there are a bunch of organizations out there licking their chops at the idea of having Jaire on their team and the injuries aren't a big concern to them.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

I don't think there is any hurry to make a decision on Jaire. From what I can see, he doesn't get a Roster Bonus like he did last year on 3/15/24, that was for $8M. His roster bonuses in 2025 are all Per Game Active Bonus's (totaling $267K, if he is active for every game).

I think free agency and the draft will give us some clue as to what is going on with Jaire. His knee and health is definitely a factor, but I don't see the Packers purging him via a trade, just to save $6M on the cap.

I also think that @tynimiller is correct. There might be the possibility that they rework his current deal, to make it reflect his availability or lack there of.

The thing with Jaire and he knows it, if the Packers won't pay him, there will be another team that will. That's is just the way business is done in the NFL, especially at key positions like CB.

Just to clarify, GB would save $17MM on the cap, not $6MM, as if he WAS cut, he'd be designated a post June 1 cut.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just to clarify, GB would save $17MM on the cap, not $6MM, as if he WAS cut, he'd be designated a post June 1 cut.

Just to clarify, I was looking at "total savings". Under your scenario, they would still have a dead cap hit of $10,728,00 in 2026 to report.

I also do not see the Packers outright cutting Jaire. He has plenty of value to other teams. His contract (for them) would be relatively affordable, for the level of player they would be acquiring.

The other thing fans need to keep in mind. When a team is planning on declaring a trade or a cut as post 6/1, until that date, they have to carry the entire dead cap on their books. That can be a bit of a problem if the team is near the cap limit and they want to spend more.

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[SudsMcBucky]

Just to clarify, I was looking at "total savings". Under your scenario, they would still have a dead cap hit of $10,728,00 in 2026 to report.

I also do not see the Packers outright cutting Jaire. He has a ton plenty of value to other teams. His contract (for them) would be relatively affordable, for the level of player they would be acquiring.

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A post 6/1 trade also saves $17MM vs $6.0MM. However, JMHO, but I think the odds of a post 6/1 cut are better than an actual trade. I think teams will know the Pack are moving on and don't want to pay Jaire the remaining salary and will take their chances once he's cut.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

A post 6/1 trade also saves $17MM vs $6.0MM. However, JMHO, but I think the odds of a post 6/1 cut are better than an actual trade. I think teams will know the Pack are moving on and don't want to pay Jaire the remaining salary and will take their chances once he's cut.

Whether JA is released or traded, the effect on the cap is the same.

Whether the Packers would choose to make it a pre 6/1 or post 6/1 transaction the TOTAL cost is the same. One accounting method just spreads it out over 2 seasons.

Your use of "savings" is getting muddled by including the salary that JA would be due if he is on the roster in 2025 and 2026. While yes, that is a savings if he isn't, but, you still have to pay his replacement. The bottom line, no matter what the Packers do with JA, they have an accumulated dead cap on the books that has to be accounted for, in the amount of $19.092M.

I'm going to disagree with you on him being cut VS traded. Teams know what he is worth (if healthy) and his non-guaranteed $17M (2025) and $19.4M (2026) salaries would be considered a bargain by any team that decides he is worth the injury risk to trade for him.

I still contend that people wanting to label JA as big injury risk and thus he needs to be purged, are over reacting to his 2 injuries over the last 2 seasons.

I will admit this. If there is something we don't know, such as JA wants out of GB or the Packers feel he isn't giving it his all, then yeah, he needs to go. However, it isn't like the Packers have quality CB's ready to take his place. I hope they work out a more team friendly restructure and Jaire is playing at a high level in 2025. At minimum, they hold on to him until they do find a suitable replacement and/or see where he is at health wise come August.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

Whether JA is released or traded, the effect on the cap is the same.

Whether the Packers would choose to make it a pre 6/1 or post 6/1 transaction the TOTAL cost is the same. One accounting method just spreads it out over 2 seasons.

Your use of "savings" is getting muddled by including the salary that JA would be due if he is on the roster in 2025 and 2026. While yes, that is a savings if he isn't, but, you still have to pay his replacement. The bottom line, no matter what the Packers do with JA, they have an accumulated dead cap on the books that has to be accounted for, in the amount of $19.092M.

I'm going to disagree with you on him being cut VS traded. Teams know what he is worth (if healthy) and his non-guaranteed $17M (2025) and $19.4M (2026) salaries would be considered a bargain by any team that decides he is worth the injury risk to trade for him.

Yes, I'm clear on how this works. Thanks.