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Not that, but now that I think about it I may be desperate for a golf swing change that takes pressure off my back.WR #2?
Not that, but now that I think about it I may be desperate for a golf swing change that takes pressure off my back.WR #2?
Really good analysis, given you’re working with some unknowns (for ex, can Bulaga be resigned?). But the weaknesses better be addressed this year cause if I’m reading your analysis right, 2021 is going to be hard just to stand pat.It's time again to make the donuts I suppose.
The NFL has advised teams that the 2020 cap will be in the range of $196.8 - $201.2 mil.
Last season in came in at the lower end of the estimated range, $188.2 mil against the estimated range of $187.0 - $191.1 mil. TV ratings were better this year. Let's use the mid-range of the estimate, $199.0 mil cap for 2020.
Various sources have the Packer cap carryover in the $5 - $6 mil range. Taking the midpoint of $5.5 mil, that gives the Packers working available cap of $204.5 mil.
The Packers currently have 43 players under contract for 2020 with a cap cost of about $174.5 mil after some minor dead cap. Lets assume Graham will be cut which takes us to 42 players with a cap cost of 166.5 mil.
That gets us to available cap space of $38 mil.
If we assume Clark will be signed to a 4 year backloaded deal, we can reckon that's a wash relative to his $7.7 mil 5th. year option. On the subject of backloading, it's hard to see Gutekunst going as extreme as last year with those 4 primary free agents. As contracts stand now, the difference between 2019 and 2021 cap costs for Rodgers, Adams, the Smiths, Amos and Turner is an increase of $41 mil. With Clark on a backloaded deal, that increase would go to over $50 mil. It's hard to think the new CBA in 2021 will make up that 2 year difference. 2021 also has a more difficult free agency class than 2020's: Bakhtiari, Jones, King and Linsley. Replicating last year's free agency haul is not likely short of a "2021 be damned" approach.
Anyway, lets work with that $38 mil as baseline. The draft class will come in somewhere around $7.5 mil for the 10 picks assuming the conditional pick for Reggie Gilbert comes through. Then subtract another $500,000 for an undrafted rookie filling out the 53 man roster. Knock off another $3 - $4 mil for practice squad and the injury replacement reserve.
So, what you have to work with is a draft class plus $26.5 mil in free cap space.
To "stay even", you have to re-sign or replace in kind the following starters: Bulaga, Graham, Martinez and Tramon Williams, with no clear up-and-comer replacements on the roster, along with Crosby and Ervin on special teams. I did not include Allison in that list as expendable or Lazard as an inexpensive exclusive rights free agent. Then there are rotational players like Lewis and Fackrel who have some value, though I think to make this all work you have to count on Gary to make the step up next season.
There's some discussion of releasing Linsley and Taylor in addition to Graham to pick up an additional $13 mil in cap which would bump available cap to $39.5
mil. That would take the current roster of OLs down to Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Turner and Patrick the presumtive center, with the remainder being Light, Madison, Nijman and Leglue. Given that collection of bench players, just guys barring some surprise I would not expect, you'd be looking at finding a starting RT and two bench players who can play if need be. Given other needs, I don't think you can get rid of both Linsley and Taylor without acquiring a backup of some value.
Patrick showed enough that I would not have a problem picking up the $8.5 mil in releasing Linsley to get the free space up to the $35 mil range. If not retaining Taylor then acquiring a similarly priced vet who can swing G/T or at least play both OT positions would be needed. I find Veldheer something of a mystery. Given the demand and prices for OTs and given how well he played in relief, it's somewhat hard to explain the weak demand for his services on the waiver wire. At 33 years old, but with most of a year's worth of R&R, and experience at both OT positions and even some OG, a Taylor-out-Veldheer-in move on a one year deal would be a net add if he has no market as a starter.
All in all, given the number of key players with heavy cap backloads going into 2021 along with the free agents coming up after 2020, I don't think you're going to see four name free agents this go round. Maybe 2, with something more than this season's $5 or $6 mil carryover going into 2021.
The toughest job will probably be an getting the ILB position where it needs to be.
I think we'll need to get 3 starters out of this draft to go with a couple of decent free agents and Gary having some impact in year 2. In the end, you have to stack drafts to get where you want to go regardless. It gets harder after 2020.
Thanks. By the way, where are going with that gun in your hand?Really good analysis, given you’re working with some unknowns (for ex, can Bulaga be resigned?). But the weaknesses better be addressed this year cause if I’m reading your analysis right, 2021 is going to be hard just to stand pat.
I do agree that if/when big bucks go out in FA, it has to be for a stud ILB. Next is a veteran WR, although it’s possible an impact WR can be acquired in the draft, just unlikely picking at #30.
Anyway, great job.
I wish I had a nickel for ever time I’ve been asked that. Then again, I’ve been leading with my chin....... But to answer your question, I’m goin’ down Mexico way.Thanks. By the way, where are going with that gun in your hand?
I like your thought on snap counts affecting the priority to address a particular position. I see a similar type philosophy with the numbers of players at a particular position. As an example, Obviously if a given team uses 6 CB’s and just 3 TE’s there’s a relative greater need at the CB position. You could further that and also look at it as a hybrid comparison by taking the top tap snaps from the CB position verses the DL position etc..Could Sullivan step in and play to Willams' level? I don't know. But is it more likely than Jackson or Holman have a light go on? Probably. Is it more likely than, for example, Keke making a second year jump? Maybe, maybe not, and that goes to priorities.
I don't think Linsley would bring much in trade. I don't think there is anything exceptional in his game. he's ok at center, some days better than others, but he's really like so many other centers in the league I don't think that level of production is unattainable for people.
Not that it isn't valuable for a team to have, it is, but when you attach his price tag i'm not sure anyone gives up a pick at any level to take that. 8.5 million for what could be a 1 year rental. If someone got 2-3 years out of that 8.5 million we might find a willing trade partner.
But with things as they are, I see zero chance he is traded and i'm 50/50 that he isn't a cap saving cut before the season starts.
According to NFL.com, the league's 32 teams have been informed that the projected salary cap for 2020 will fall somewhere between $196.8 million to $201.2 million. On the low end, that's a 4.5% increase over the 2019 salary cap, and on the high end, that's a 6.9% increase over the $188.2 million cap that teams were given for 2019.
The long answer is in the OP with adjustments now required for Jones' and Williams' performance escalators. Those escalators are applied per the CBA and based on snap counts, a little less than a $3 mil deduction is cap sapce.
IF he is of the average level play, than that is even more reason we must cut him. $8.5 Million should be providing far more than IMO. He contributes more to his value than Graham, but if he is merely as you described and viewed as such by Gute and Co. than they would be ignorant not to kick him to the curb.
Gutekunst's statement about being less active in free agency this year has more to do with 2021 than it does with available 2020 cap space. The 2019 cap costs for the Smiths, Amos and Turner was $23.4 mil. A repeat fits narrowly under the cap space whether Bulaga is included in that group or not. But to do that would require heavy backloading of the cap hits in those new contracts and starts to blow out the cap space in future years.
What Gutekunst said, I believe, is that the prices were not right on the players he was interested in. Whether Sanders was among those guys I couldn't say. Personally, I don't have a lot of ethusiasm for that player at this stage of his career.I appreciate your analysis. Based on the quote, wouldn't it make sense to target a player that is willing to play for a contender on a one year offer. I believe he tried to trade for Emannuel Sanders but San Fran just beat us out. I can't find it now but I read an article that put forward a case for us to try and pick up Watkins on a one year deal. Perhaps we could do that and find a more long term solution in the upper or mid round of the draft. We really do need an ILB, and I think La Fleur's scheme requires a solid OL. We have two really good running backs and an agin QB that need the line for the offense to have a chance.
Resign Bulaga, Crosby, Lewis, Tonyan, Lazard, Sullivan, Lancaster, Kumerow, Redmond
Pretty much agree with you. Bulaga is a tough one though because we really need to have someone good there and he may not be easy to find. But I would certainly like to go younger and fresher there. I'd also like to see Jenkins try out center and find a good run blocking L guard that can move the man in front of him on short yardage. But Lancaster?? What do you see here?1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes but not completely necessary
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. Yes probably
8. 50/50 wouldn't hurt but certainly not necessary
9. Yes probably
What Gutekunst said, I believe, is that the prices were not right on the players he was interested in. Whether Sanders was among those guys I couldn't say. Personally, I don't have a lot of ethusiasm for that player at this stage of his career.
For reasons I cannot explain, this league keeps overpaying Sammy Watkins with these $15 - $16 mil per year deals. Until the league smartens up there's no point in considering him. In any case, if KC does in fact release him, which would be the smart thing to do, you can be pretty sure somebody will offer him more than a one year deal. The guy is in his prime years. He's just not worth what he's been getting paid.
Pretty much agree with you. Bulaga is a tough one though because we really need to have someone good there and he may not be easy to find. But I would certainly like to go younger and fresher there. I'd also like to see Jenkins try out center and find a good run blocking L guard that can move the man in front of him on short yardage. But Lancaster?? What do you see here?
it’s possible an impact WR can be acquired in the draft, just unlikely picking at #30.
Yes, totally possible. However, relying on it for next season would be a very bad path to take in my opinion. What if the rookie doesn't catch on right away? What if he or Adams gets injured?
I have not read one article about the Packers that boasts about their current WR group, nor have I heard/read anyone say that they have a lot of confidence in the development of the current "non Adams" group.
I get it, some are saying that "The Free Agency WR Market sucks this year and the draft is one of the best for WR's in years". I don't quite buy into the fact that Gute still wont be able to find a #2 WR in Free Agency or via a trade, I also don't buy into the idea that drafting a WR alone will solve the issues we saw at the position last year.
Will be interesting to see the path Gute follows....sign a TE and a WR, as well as an ILB in Free Agency or roll the dice and try to fill a starting spot at one of those 3 positions with a Rookie or someone currently on the roster.
Unless you're talking about Lewis or Goodson-type rotational players, I'm fairly confident you're not going to see all 3 coming out of free agency. If he starts signing back Bulaga and some of the lower cost older guys like Crosby, T. Williams and Lewis, you'll probably see only one.Will be interesting to see the path Gute follows....sign a TE and a WR, as well as an ILB in Free Agency or roll the dice and try to fill a starting spot at one of those 3 positions with a Rookie or someone currently on the roster.
I guess I just look at that and figure the lack of replacement picks for Cobb and Jordy in the early rounds where these guys were picked has been part of the problem to our current lackluster core. WR can be addressed in the draft, but where you pick matters.
I have been saying this for a few years now. As hard as TT and Gute have tried, they don't seem to be able to find capable WR's outside of the first few rounds. Adams was the last WR brought into Green Bay that has contributed in a starting capacity way. To further complicate that history, when will an early round WR be fully immersed into the playbook and on the same page as Rodgers? First season? I doubt it.
I realize that we don't have the funds to spend on 3 high end FA Starters (WR, TE and ILB).
- WR: I don't think Gute has to spend top money at WR to improve the team. Mid tier $5-7M/year should do it. Then grab a rookie in the first 3 rounds of the draft. That vet + rookie, along with Adams and the youngsters on the current roster are going to be enough. Maybe a Tajae Sharpe or Breshad Perriman type.