2017 Draft/FA Needs - Ranked

[Arthur Squires]

I am wondering if Lang gets handed his hat this year. Move Spriggs or Tretter in their and Tretter would cost far less. Just a thought.

It wouldn't totally surprise me if they let Lang reach FA especially with his mounting injuries. Tretter would be cheaper and is more than capable. If they can resign both though unlikely, it would really help our line. If they let Peppers and Shields off the books they could resign Perry, Lang and Tretter imo

 

[brandon2348]

We need "pass rush" and "pass rush" and more "pass rush". Last night was just another example of this. When the Falcons got pressure on Brady he was slowed way down and vice versa when Pats got pressure on Ryan. It didn't matter who these teams had at corner when there was no pass rush. "Shut Down Corners" are a thing of the past with all the rules that don't allow corners to get physical anymore along with not being able to "tee-off" on receivers catching balls over the middle or anywhere for that matter. Ronnie Lott days are over.

I do want the Packers to upgrade at corner but I believe pass rush to be much more higher on the priority list and I don't just mean "Edge Rushers." We need guys that can bring heat from at least 5 of the front 7 positions for this Capers D to work. Then we need a rotation. This is why I see so much value with a pick like Hasson Red****. Then go after a Jordan Willis and a Vincent Taylor. All of the sudden you got 3 guys with speed that have tape against major college competition that can get to QB from different spots. Go spend some $ and get a "tier one corner."

TT needs to quit overthinking this **** and converting safeties to corner and basketball players to football players. He hit on small school scouting with Nick Collins but that's gonna be difficult to duplicate and Nick Collins had Div 1 tools. And Yes I would stay away from the Pac 12 in regards to front seven players as much as possible. They simply don't play defense currently in that conference. Its like drafting some guy from the WAC back in the day to play defense.

 

[PackerDNA]

Pundits and fans lament this every year. They base it on mock drafts, articles, and their own opinions. It's not like GM's do mock drafts amongst themselves to get draft value of players. No, they talk to players, watch a hell of a lot of game tape, attend workouts, talk to previous coaches. You know, research and try to best fit several hundred potential candidates. Some players go earlier because they may rate them higher and want them before their next pick comes up.
ETA: I have no intention of trying to defend the draft position of BJ Sanders a decade and a half ago.

LOL! You'd need to contort yourself into the shape of a pretzel to even begin that!

 

[Half Empty]

It wouldn't totally surprise me if they let Lang reach FA especially with his mounting injuries. Tretter would be cheaper and is more than capable. If they can resign both though unlikely, it would really help our line. If they let Peppers and Shields off the books they could resign Perry, Lang and Tretter imo

Tretter is young and has demonstrated that he's a very capable starting center and is able to adequately play all five OL positions. He may well not re-sign without testing FA waters, and who can say at that point if he'll be cheaper than Lang. Also, Linsley and Taylor should be starters again next year, and they're both FAs the year after, so there's concern there, too.

 

[sdh09e44]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...-rodgers-cromartie-vontae-davis-connor-barwin


Another article talking about some potential cuts that may happen.

Also mentioned Tredavious White the CB from LSU. Someone on here said his name the other day. He'd be another very nice pick imo.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=128410&draftyear=2017&genpos=CB

a good right up of him from the senior bowl. A four year starter at LSU. Could've been drafted last year but came back for his senior year to sharpen some things up. I really like those types of players.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Again, not if done right. Not to mention, as of now we have $64M in cap space for this offseason (spotrac) and that's with them calling for a less than 3M cap increase. Much more the year after that , too.
Time to get busy, or go get jobs as bankers or CPA's.

I don't know where you've got that number from but according to Spotrac the Packers currently have $32 million of cap space entering this offseason with the cap expected to increase by more than $12 million.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/cap/

I am wondering if Lang gets handed his hat this year. Move Spriggs or Tretter in their and Tretter would cost far less. Just a thought.

It's possible the Packers let Lang walk away in free agency. I expect another team to offer Tretter starter money and I'm not convinced Thompson will match such an offer.

 

[easyk83]

It may not be the #1 priority, but I disagree that Dline isn't a need area. If you could add on a player like Jones or Campbell, you do it. Getting more of a pass rush from your down lineman would be huge.

I think you add some depth to the DL in mid rounds, but I think that our need at CB is so great that even a reach for the position might be worth it. You don't spend extra time touching up the paint job in the den when the living room is actually on fire.

 

[easyk83]

I understand, the problem is, we need a #1 CB on opening day. I don't currently see one on the Packer Roster and I really don't expect to see one at #29 in the draft either. However, I do agree with you, I would hope Randall and Rollins show the dangers of using high draft picks on guys just because they are "tremendous athletes". I'm not ready to give up on either of them, but they both obviously couldn't simply step in and learn the CB position with just their good athletic abilities.

This is a very deep draft in terms of CB depth, and it's full of pass rushers too. Also remember that this draft boasts a good class of first round running back and receiver prospects... So lots of other teams will be looking to improve in other areas of need. Bear in mind that cats like Tre'davious White who would ordinarily be a top 20 guy is projected by some to be a second rounder.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I think you add some depth to the DL in mid rounds, but I think that our need at CB is so great that even a reach for the position might be worth it. You don't spend extra time touching up the paint job in the den when the living room is actually on fire.

Only one above average player on the dline doesn't seem like a "touch up" job. Not saying it's as bad as corner but it's far from a good place.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

This is a very deep draft in terms of CB depth, and it's full of pass rushers too. Also remember that this draft boasts a good class of first round running back and receiver prospects... So lots of other teams will be looking to improve in other areas of need. Bear in mind that cats like Tre'davious White who would ordinarily be a top 20 guy is projected by some to be a second rounder.

The Packers should nevertheless upgrade the cornerback position in free agency with a veteran that has already proved to be capable of performing at a high level in the NFL.

 

[easyk83]

Only one above average player on the dline doesn't seem like a "touch up" job. Not saying it's as bad as corner but it's far from a good place.

Daniels is an absolute stud and I think that Lowry and Clarke grow into good pieces. We do, however, need some depth. Guion should be relegated to a backup role next year but we could use a couple additions both for growth and present security. I don't believe that the needs at DL warrant anywhere near the kind of attention that we need at CB.

 

[easyk83]

The Packers should nevertheless upgrade the cornerback position in free agency with a veteran that has already proved to be capable of performing at a high level in the NFL.

Not sure if we'll find that but we should be able to pick up a solid corner prior to the draft. Prince Amukamara perhaps.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Not sure if we'll find that but we should be able to pick up a solid corner prior to the draft. Prince Amukamara perhaps.

I would prefer the Packers to sign a different cornerback as Amukamara hasn´t been able to stay healthy for most of his career.

 

[Half Empty]

Dead horse, but, if that's the case, he'd fit right in with the Packers.

 

[PackerDNA]

I don't know where you've got that number from but according to Spotrac the Packers currently have $32 million of cap space entering this offseason with the cap expected to increase by more than $12 million.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/cap/



It's possible the Packers let Lang walk away in free agency. I expect another team to offer Tretter starter money and I'm not convinced Thompson will match such an offer.

Forgot to mention; numbers are for 2018 without any additions from now on. My bad, Cap.

 

[sdh09e44]

http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/Should-Green-Bay-Packers-sign-Cardinals-LB-Chandler-Jones-51081539

Just speculation, but imagine this. I think you let Perry walk if you can sign Chandler Jones. He'd be double the price but we'd be set for the pass rush once another rookie is drafted. Rather than keeping Perry around and being hopeful he can replicate 2016, but uncertain about it. And then hoping Clay can get healthy stay healthy and replicate his better days, but again uncertain about it.

Jones Clay Fackrell Elliot and 2-3 round rookie.

This would prevent us from signing a top CB but Kirkpatrick Amukamara Claiborne or DRC if he is cut could probably be brought in. Then since the pass rush is set, you can probably draft a CB in the first round to pair with one of those Vets.


* Keep in mind I am not saying this should happen. Just drawing out the potential scenario if it did happen. It's interesting.

 

[Arthur Squires]

Read yesterday that Mike Pennel was picked up by the Jets off waivers.

 

[PackerDNA]

http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/Should-Green-Bay-Packers-sign-Cardinals-LB-Chandler-Jones-51081539

Just speculation, but imagine this. I think you let Perry walk if you can sign Chandler Jones. He'd be double the price but we'd be set for the pass rush once another rookie is drafted. Rather than keeping Perry around and being hopeful he can replicate 2016, but uncertain about it. And then hoping Clay can get healthy stay healthy and replicate his better days, but again uncertain about it.

Jones Clay Fackrell Elliot and 2-3 round rookie.

This would prevent us from signing a top CB but Kirkpatrick Amukamara Claiborne or DRC if he is cut could probably be brought in. Then since the pass rush is set, you can probably draft a CB in the first round to pair with one of those Vets.


* Keep in mind I am not saying this should happen. Just drawing out the potential scenario if it did happen. It's interesting.

The only place signing one guy prevents you from signing another is Green Bay.

 

[Arthur Squires]

What does everyone think it takes to resign Cook?

 

[Half Empty]

Just a place to start, $3.3 mil/yr http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/jared-cook-6042/market-value/

 

[Arthur Squires]

Just throwing this out here. Lacy is close to bottom on my resign list as a fan. Just because I believe there are multiple backs we can draft that would add to our offense. We need to resign Perry thats priority #1, unless he gets offered 10million per year then I think he walks!

 

[Half Empty]

For the sake of consistency, Lacy comes in at $5.1 mil/yr http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/eddie-lacy-12342/market-value/

Perry is $8.5 http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nick-perry-9838/market-value/

 

[sdh09e44]

The only place signing one guy prevents you from signing another is Green Bay.

Lol. But money wise I don't think it would be possible..?

Chandler Jones is gonna get 16 mil a year. We will have around 47 mil in space if Shields and Starks are cut.

Already down to 31 once Jones is signed. And now thinking about it, even signing Amuk Kirk Clai or DRC would be tough. Those guys are due for at least 8 mil a year. Amukamara is at $10.2 ( that's crazy ), the other three gotta be somewhere between $7.5 and $10. DRC is at $8.5 for 2017.

Trumaine Johnson $12.4
Aj Bouye $11.2
Nothing for Gilmore but I imagine it is very similar to Bouye.


-31-8 and we are down to 23. 31- 12 and we are down to 19.

-23 or 19 for Lang Tretter Cook Hyde Lacy and the Rookies. That's a tough squeeze, even if an 8 mil CB is signed. 3 out of those 5 are probably gone.



*Everything changes and this could be possible if Clay or maybe Cobb are reconstructed.

 

[Half Empty]

If Clay is reconstructed, he'll probably worth his original contract.

 

[PackerDNA]

Lol. But money wise I don't think it would be possible..?

Chandler Jones is gonna get 16 mil a year. We will have around 47 mil in space if Shields and Starks are cut.

Already down to 31 once Jones is signed. And now thinking about it, even signing Amuk Kirk Clai or DRC would be tough. Those guys are due for at least 8 mil a year. Amukamara is at $10.2 ( that's crazy ), the other three gotta be somewhere between $7.5 and $10. DRC is at $8.5 for 2017.

Trumaine Johnson $12.4
Aj Bouye $11.2
Nothing for Gilmore but I imagine it is very similar to Bouye.


-31-8 and we are down to 23. 31- 12 and we are down to 19.

-23 or 19 for Lang Tretter Cook Hyde Lacy and the Rookies. That's a tough squeeze, even if an 8 mil CB is signed. 3 out of those 5 are probably gone.



*Everything changes and this could be possible if Clay or maybe Cobb are reconstructed.

It's all about how the contracts are structured. Chandler Jones at about $16M a year sounds about right.
But that could be made to be 8M against the cap in 2017.