Will CMIII Return in 2019?

[Reggie White Cheese]

Reading about Packer collectables, I paid a ton of $$$$ for a autograph Favre Riddell helmet in a display case the year he took us to the SB.
Then when he left GB for the Jets then the Vikings, I was so mad, I open up the display case and turn the helmet around with his autograph facing in the back.

I have to comment on this because the last bit hit over here. My father when A-Rod broke his collarbone (Barr-ugh) he took his figurine (that rotates his arm in a throwing motion) and wrapped it up and turned it around, had to chuckle there.. Go Pack Go

 

[PackerDNA]

I think Peppers had his heart set on going back to Carolina.

 

[rodell330]

If they released Jordy then Matthews is definitely gone. I think there’s a ZERO percent chance he’s back. He will either go to one of the California teams? or Cleveland to live in his dads past glory as a Brown. He definitely has to go somewhere where they play a 3-4 scheme. He’s not good enough in the run game to play a 4-3 olb, and he’s not good enough in coverage to be a 4-3 Olb. He’s strictly a pass rusher.

It also wouldn’t shock me to see the Packers try and move Nick Perry to get off his contract. They can probably get 5th for him and I’m ok with that because it least it gets us off his salary he hasn’t played up to.

I’m pretty sure the first two picks will be used to address issues on the defensive side of the ball. Two edge rushers? Maybe edge rusher and safety? They need to address the RG and RT but I can see that happening rds 2 & 3. The plan should be build an elite defense and get Rodgers as many offensive possessions per game as you can get him. That should be the plan.

Whoever the NEW Head Coach is next season is walking into a situation with a team ready to win NOW...no rebuild mode... which is why I think the Packers job will be the most sought after job in all of football. I know a lot of you aren’t big on McDaniels but I can guarantee you the Packers reach out to him. If he’s smart he will take the job. I’m even willing to bet McDaniels will be the HC here next season if he’s offered the job.

 

[Half Empty]

Looks like it's 2020 before it's reasonable to move Perry.
https://overthecap.com/player/nick-perry/1129/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nick-perry-9838/

 

[Dblbogey]

If TT was still in charge you can bet he would be back.With Gute in charge I highly doubt it unless it is for very cheap and team friendly contract. Still should have offered Peppers more money to stay. SMH

Well, I was in favor of letting Peppers go. I was wrong on that call. I believe it's the first time I've ever been wrong about anything ever. Well, except when I loved the trade up to get Spriggs. Seriously though, who would've thought he'd still be a factor at 38 years old? As for Mathews, offer him 2 years/6 million, and move him inside. Some team will likely offer him too much anyway.

 

[PackAttack12]

If they released Jordy then Matthews is definitely gone. I think there’s a ZERO percent chance he’s back. He will either go to one of the California teams? or Cleveland to live in his dads past glory as a Brown. He definitely has to go somewhere where they play a 3-4 scheme. He’s not good enough in the run game to play a 4-3 olb, and he’s not good enough in coverage to be a 4-3 Olb. He’s strictly a pass rusher.

It also wouldn’t shock me to see the Packers try and move Nick Perry to get off his contract. They can probably get 5th for him and I’m ok with that because it least it gets us off his salary he hasn’t played up to.

I’m pretty sure the first two picks will be used to address issues on the defensive side of the ball. Two edge rushers? Maybe edge rusher and safety? They need to address the RG and RT but I can see that happening rds 2 & 3. The plan should be build an elite defense and get Rodgers as many offensive possessions per game as you can get him. That should be the plan.

Whoever the NEW Head Coach is next season is walking into a situation with a team ready to win NOW...no rebuild mode... which is why I think the Packers job will be the most sought after job in all of football. I know a lot of you aren’t big on McDaniels but I can guarantee you the Packers reach out to him. If he’s smart he will take the job. I’m even willing to bet McDaniels will be the HC here next season if he’s offered the job.

You're definitely right about one thing...the Packers will be able to choose from a lot of qualified, proven candidates, along with a ton of young talented up and coming coaches.

There's not a jug head on the planet that would turn down the opportunity to coach Rodgers and the Packers at this point.

 

[mradtke66]

It comes down to money.

I'd estimate Matthew's value in the 2-6 million per year range that other have mentioned. Pass rushers get paid, even old ones past their primes. If he we signed to be the no. 3 and a rookie knocks him down to the 4th best rusher that can be used a Joker rusher in dime? We'd still be getting adequate value for that money.

Contract length would be something in the 2-3 year range, with the ability to cut after 2 years with minimal cap implications.

My gut tells me he'll get a better offer elsewhere though.

 

[gbgary]

maybe...if he's willing to play inside and for less. if not...no.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

Looks like it's 2020 before it's reasonable to move Perry.
https://overthecap.com/player/nick-perry/1129/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nick-perry-9838/

Perry the Fairy is a disgrace to the highest order.

https://twitter.com/SconnieSports/status/1060705522813427712

 

[Deleted member 6794]

If this organization is truly serious about turning things around sooner rather than later, then players such as Matthews, Perry, Cobb, and Bulaga need to be gone next season.

The Packers have to find adequate replacements for either of them before being able to move on. Aside of Cobb it doesn't seem they currently have any on the roster.

While on this topic Bulaga has one more year left on his current deal. I believe it is in the 7 million dollar range. Bulaga will definitely be back.

The Packers would save $6.75 million of cap space by releasing Bulaga after this season. Therefore it's not a given he will be back in 2019.

I know a lot of you aren’t big on McDaniels but I can guarantee you the Packers reach out to him. If he’s smart he will take the job. I’m even willing to bet McDaniels will be the HC here next season if he’s offered the job.

I fully expect McDaniels to become the Patriots next head coach. After what he pulled on the Colts this offseason there's no reason for the Packers to consider him.

maybe...if he's willing to play inside and for less. if not...no.

Matthews isn't any good playing inside. I definitely prefer having Martinez and Ryan lined up there over him.

 

[thisisnate]

I still like Clay and always will, but no, he should not be back. We're better off with a day 1 or day 2 rookie. Clay doesn't seem to have many tricks left. He tries to speed around the edge all the time and is just way too slow for that now. He wasn't that great in the middle iirc, but I'd love to have him back on a reduced salary if he provided depth at middle linebacker and some situational pass rush. Hard to imagine that happening though.

 

[PackerDNA]

Looks like it's 2020 before it's reasonable to move Perry.
https://overthecap.com/player/nick-perry/1129/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nick-perry-9838/

What's not reasonable is to take a 14.7 million-dollar cap hit for a player who contributes nothing when he's on the field which isn't often

 

[Half Empty]

'Reasonable' is always subjective, but $14+ for a player vice $11+ for nobody just doesn't seem like the way to go, for me.

 

[PackerDNA]

'Reasonable' is always subjective, but $14+ for a player vice $11+ for nobody just doesn't seem like the way to go, for me.

Not sure what you mean half empty

 

[thequick12]

Not sure what you mean half empty

It's costs 11 million not to have Perry and 14 million to have him. I'd rather have Perry for that extra 3 million he's definitely worth that. It's like being pot committed in poker

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It's costs 11 million not to have Perry and 14 million to have him. I'd rather have Perry for that extra 3 million he's definitely worth that. It's like being pot committed in poker

Agreed, especially considering the Packers would have to release Perry before the start of free agency to save $3.6 million in cap space as he's due a bonus of $4.8 million on the third day of the league year. Gutekunst won't be able to address the position before that point though leaving the team in even more uncertainty at edge rusher at that point.

 

[PackerDNA]

It's costs 11 million not to have Perry and 14 million to have him. I'd rather have Perry for that extra 3 million he's definitely worth that. It's like being pot committed in poker

Don't have time right now to go into detail but here's what I'm thinking. The key word here is net. It's not costing 11 million to cut Perry. It's a net Savings of 3.6 million. so the thing is paying 14.7 million or saving 3.6 million. those with more knowledge of the situation or different ideas can let me know and I'll try to respond later.

 

[swhitset]

Don't have time right now to go into detail but here's what I'm thinking. The key word here is net. It's not costing 11 million to cut Perry. It's a net Savings of 3.6 million. so the thing is paying 14.7 million or saving 3.6 million. those with more knowledge of the situation or different ideas can let me know and I'll try to respond later.

That’s not the way it works with regard to net EFFECT. The point is that 11 million counts against the cap... so unless you can get a better player for 3 million there is no reason to cut him.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Don't have time right now to go into detail but here's what I'm thinking. The key word here is net. It's not costing 11 million to cut Perry. It's a net Savings of 3.6 million. so the thing is paying 14.7 million or saving 3.6 million. those with more knowledge of the situation or different ideas can let me know and I'll try to respond later.

The Packers would save $3.6 million of cap space by releasing Perry before the start of free agency. They would have to find an adequate replacement for him with that money to make it work though.

 

[weeds]

Rick's (but with a D) sporting goods got blurred out LOL

I was on a Republican forum years ago where you couldn't mention the V-P of the US without using his full given first name - Richard.

Imagine that...a guy whose name you used frequently would be filtered out. Then, you learn to dance around the filters, giving you "Di(k" versus "****". It was comical actually.

 

[Poppa San]

I was on a Republican forum years ago where you couldn't mention the V-P of the US without using his full given first name - Richard.

Imagine that...a guy whose name you used frequently would be filtered out. Then, you learn to dance around the filters, giving you "Di(k" versus "****". It was comical actually.

Imagine being on a Detroit forum with their OC over the past few seasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bob_Cooter

 

[ARPackFan]

Imagine being on a Detroit forum with their OC over the past few seasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bob_Cooter

I happen to like Coo-ter.