What To Make Of Our WR No-Shows

[Pokerbrat2000]

So then he lied when he said it wasnt about Love?

I'm still debating on how to interpret what Rodgers said/meant on the Love subject during his Kenny Mayne interview. Especially given what went down immediately after the Packers selected Love.

I am 100% sure Rodgers wanted people to know that he likes Jordan Love the person and he holds no ill will towards him.

I am only about 5% sure Rodgers wasn't miffed about the whole circumstances around the selection of a QB in the first round of the 2020 draft, no matter what that QB's name was.

I am only about 10% sure that Rodgers has fully gotten over that.

I am 100% sure Rodgers feels that he and the Packer FO are not operating under the same philosophy.

 

[Poppa San]

cucumber sandwiches

???

 

[Poppa San]

I don't understand cricket.

It's like cicada, only quieter and more often than every 17 years.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It's all speculation at this point about why the receivers didn't show up for OTAs. With the Packers putting a lot of value into players showing up for voluntary workouts and attendance having been close to 100% in the past there seems to be reason for concern though.

As a side note, it's mind-boggling how many posters are ready to move on from Rodgers and now Adams and other receivers in a heartbeat after the game came within one play going their way of winning the Super Bowl. You might want to take a lot at some other teams around the league to realize it's not that easy to make it back once you blow up a roster like that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

As a side note, it's mind-boggling how many posters are ready to move on from Rodgers and now Adams and other receivers in a heartbeat after the game came within one play going their way of winning the Super Bowl. You might want to take a lot at some other teams around the league to realize it's not that easy to make it back once you blow up a roster like that.

There is a difference between "ready to move on" and "wanting to move on." As well as a very big difference as to where those 2 players will and desire to be Green Bay Packers is now VS where we thought it might be 5 months ago.

None of us have any control over what the Packers or either player does, so given the latest news on each player, why wouldn't we speculate on all the scenarios that might play out?

Explain why you wouldn't consider trading Adams if Rodgers is traded/retires and Adams makes it very clear he is done in GB after this season and won't be resigning.

 

[gopkrs]

It's like cicada, only quieter and more often than every 17 years.

Now I got it.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

???

Apparently it's something you're supposed to eat while watching cricket, and maybe while playing cricket? I'm not real sure because some cricket games take 2-3 days and it all just seems really boring.

 

[Pkrjones]

There is a difference between "ready to move on" and "wanting to move on." As well as a very big difference as to where those 2 players will and desire to be Green Bay Packers is now VS where we thought it might be 5 months ago.

None of us have any control over what the Packers or either player does, so given the latest news on each player, why wouldn't we speculate on all the scenarios that might play out?

Explain why you wouldn't consider trading Adams if Rodgers is traded/retires and Adams makes it very clear he is done in GB after this season and won't be resigning.

IF AR is "poisoning" the locker room and the WR's are hitching-their-wagons to AR in a show of solidarity rather than to the Packers organization I think Gute needs to consider the less-desirable options.

It appears Adams & Funchess are willing to give-up their workout bonuses ($500K & $50K respectively). 4 WR's are on their last year of a contract: Adams, MVS, St. Brown, & Funchess. In addition Lazard is an RFA & 3 more are ERFA's: Begelton, Taylor & Winfree. It appears Adams, MVS, Lazard & Funchess think that they're safe? IF they don't want to play in GB, for the organization, then I absolutely believe getting something for them before they leave in FA should be considered.

IMHO it appears that AR & WR's aren't leaving the GB front office many options and that "blowing up" the roster is more probable whether we as fans prefer it or not. AR's & Adam's value has never been higher, MVS & Lazard need to play well for their next contract, and St. Brown, Begelton & Funchess has never been anything so a drastic overhaul may be coming.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Just came across this:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ten-players-not-attendance-packers-212144034.html

"Overall, 79 of the 89 players on the roster were at OTAs". So, it turns out that it is just a few players here and a few players there. Here's a question for discussion. Why was Jones, Dillon and the offensive line there? I think if there were really munity a foot then more players would have skipped and the big names wouldn't have attended at all. I could be wrong though. I have been a lot in the past.

I concur.

If the "wide-receiver mutiny" laugh were to go on deep into the summer, then it would be a big deal. Until then, it isn't, and I suspect a month from now no one will remember this non-story at all.

Moving on...

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Regarding Adams, he doesn't have a contract that extends beyond this season so it's very possible he's willing to sacrifice his bonus to avoid the risk of injury at a voluntary camp and risk lowering the potential value of his next contract. I'm no mind reader, just a potential reason he might have after watching his teammate tear his ACL during practice just a few months ago.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Regarding Adams, he doesn't have a contract that extends beyond this season so it's very possible he's willing to sacrifice his bonus to avoid the risk of injury at a voluntary camp and risk lowering the potential value of his next contract. I'm no mind reader, just a potential reason he might have after watching his teammate tear his ACL during practice just a few months ago.

or simply, he is showing his support of Aaron Rodgers, as are Funchess, Lazard, MVS and EQ. It really doesn't take rocket science to connect the dots and its comical how some are trying to make up excuses for players that previously attended these sessions.

 

[AmishMafia]

or simply, he is showing his support of Aaron Rodgers, as are Funchess, Lazard, MVS and EQ. It really doesn't take rocket science to connect the dots and its comical how some are trying to make up excuses for players that previously attended these sessions.

Or solidarity with the union that recommended players don't show up as a protest to the extra game this season.

 

[gopkrs]

I don't understand and am surprised so many receivers have not showed. I would have thought that guys like MVS and Lazard would want to show. But I also think if there was some kind of conspiracy reason; that somebody would be typing something on instagram.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Or solidarity with the union that recommended players don't show up as a protest to the extra game this season.

Could be and I am not endorsing the Lions or Cowboys in any shape or form, but that recommendation by the Players Unions seems to be falling on deaf ears for those 2 teams as well as several others.

I think I would believe it was the case for the Packer WR's if the rest of the team was following suit, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm not ruling out coincidence and or influence by the NFLPA, but it also makes perfect sense that the 5 top WR's on the depth chart are supporting their QB.

Even the Broncos who were one of the first teams to say they would not be having OTA's back in April, changed their minds and had 81 players show up.

All but two Denver Broncos players show up for first day of OTAs | 9news.com

 

[AmishMafia]

I don't understand and am surprised so many receivers have not showed. I would have thought that guys like MVS and Lazard would want to show. But I also think if there was some kind of conspiracy reason; that somebody would be typing something on instagram.

There are conspiracy stories out there.

WRs showing support
Rodgers encouraging them- ' I will put in a good word with my new team'
WRs loyal to the union
Alien mind control (the same ones that hide bigfoot)

 

[gopkrs]

There are conspiracy stories out there.

WRs showing support
Rodgers encouraging them- ' I will put in a good word with my new team'
WRs loyal to the union
Alien mind control (the same ones that hide bigfoot)

I didn't say there were no theories. Quite a few of those. I only said that if the players were thinking that way that one of them at least would probably be typing something out on their phone. Otherwise, they can be in solidarity but no one knows it except them.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I didn't say there were no theories. Quite a few of those. I only said that if the players were thinking that way that one of them at least would probably be typing something out on their phone. Otherwise, they can be in solidarity but no one knows it except them.

It is called "silent solidarity" and is meant to make people think. They aren't trying to make themselves individually the focus of attention. They very well could be attempting to send a silent message to the FO that they support their QB. Adams is only risking $500K, Funchess $50K and him as well as the other 3, a potential job IMO. I doubt the Packers would cut any of them not named Adams for not attending, but it might play into the final roster cuts when the time comes.

The more I have thought about Davante, the more I think he really wouldn't mind being traded, especially if his QB is gone. He knows if he is traded, it will be under the terms of his new team giving him a new contract. Such contract will not only probably be top 3 WR money, but will include all sorts of guarantees, which he currently doesn't have. I love Davante as a Packer, but I can see how him forcing a trade could work out much better for him, than potentially getting injured in a contract season with Bortles or Love as his QB.

 

[tynimiller]

I really don't believe it is any joint item or effort. Each was spoken to by MLF and it didn't appear at any hint of that was the cause....however if it was and he chose to keep that behind the curtains out of respect, place another point on the organizations side of things to keep personal laundry hung to dry out of sight of others.

 

[tynimiller]

It is called "silent solidarity" and is meant to make people think. They aren't trying to make themselves individually the focus of attention. They very well could be attempting to send a silent message to the FO that they support their QB. Adams is only risking $500K, Funchess $50K and him as well as the other 3, a potential job IMO. I doubt the Packers would cut any of them not named Adams for not attending, but it might play into the final roster cuts when the time comes.

The more I have thought about Davante, the more I think he really wouldn't mind being traded, especially if his QB is gone. He knows if he is traded, it will be under the terms of his new team giving him a new contract. Such contract will not only probably be top 3 WR money, but will include all sorts of guarantees, which he currently doesn't have. I love Davante as a Packer, but I can see how him forcing a trade could work out much better for him, than potentially getting injured in a contract season with Bortles or Love as his QB.

Honestly, if I'm Gute I've already spoken hypotheticals to Adams/his agent that we want him in Green Bay LONG term with or without Rodgers under center, but respect and understand that if Rodgers is no longer desiring to be here - we will do all we can to respect your wishes and work together to find a destination that fits your desires and compensates the organization appropriately for them receiving the best WR in the NFL presently.

 

[mongoosev]

We could all watch Cricket?

Actually i'm watching golf and tennis now. Personally I stopped giving my money to the nfl. It's just a clown show now and they are laughing at us for being such devoted minions, we eat it up and don't question it one bit.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Honestly, if I'm Gute I've already spoken hypotheticals to Adams/his agent that we want him in Green Bay LONG term with or without Rodgers under center, but respect and understand that if Rodgers is no longer desiring to be here - we will do all we can to respect your wishes and work together to find a destination that fits your desires and compensates the organization appropriately for them receiving the best WR in the NFL presently.

Agree and I think you meant to say "If Adams is no longer..."

I would feel the same about any high priced player in a contract year. If they have no intentions of resigning with the Packers AND it was felt that the team wasn't going to be in contention for a Super Bowl run that season, get everything you can for him now. Waiting until the trade deadline would be an option, but the trade value is going to be a lot less, as will the number of teams willing to trade for him.

Someone commented how crazy it is to want to get rid of Adams. I think it would be crazier to know that he is done in Green Bay if Rodgers leaves, go through a 6-11 season, watch him sign with another team, say the Broncos/Vikings/Bears and then get a 3rd round comp pick for him in 2023. Control who he goes to and what you get for him.

I actually feel bad for MLF right now. This guy is really in the sh*t seat with this. He is trying to coach a team, stay cool with both the Players and the FO and really is an innocent bystander, with a lot to lose by either or both of those parties actions and decisions and no real control of it.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

or simply, he is showing his support of Aaron Rodgers, as are Funchess, Lazard, MVS and EQ. It really doesn't take rocket science to connect the dots and its comical how some are trying to make up excuses for players that previously attended these sessions.

Comical is pretending we know what other people are thinking. You might be correct but there are myriad other reasons than some nefarious receiver cabal.

 

[Pkrjones]

I only said that if the players were thinking that way that one of them at least would probably be typing something out on their phone. Otherwise, they can be in solidarity but no one knows it except them.

... OR passive aggressive solidarity?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

nefarious receiver cabal.

Nice! We need to make jerseys, T-shirts and hats!

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[Pokerbrat2000]

... OR passive aggressive solidarity?

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