What is going on with Rodgers?

[PackPackPackers]

What game were you watching?? There was not plenty open people today.

I mean he could of taken some shots, but he likes to protect his own stats by taking sacks.

 

[P-E-Z]

I mean he could of taken some shots, but he likes to protect his own stats by taking sacks.

You never played football I take it... NO QB is going physically beaten up by taking sacks to protect there stats. No good QB throws the ball when not open. If force it things go bad really really fast when you do that.

 

[Quientus]

I mean he could of taken some shots, but he likes to protect his own stats by taking sacks.

I don't believe Rodgers to be a "Stat-padder", I just dont Think he is comfortable enough with "**** and dunk" - since it doesn't Seem like a scheme they've been practising that much, being as mobile as he is ...

 

[P-E-Z]

They did, multiple times, did it help?

Actually almost never had 2 backs in passing plays.

 

[PackPackPackers]

You never played football I take it... NO QB is going physically beaten up by taking sacks to protect there stats. No good QB throws the ball when not open. If force it things go bad really really fast when you do that.

Then if this is the case, why does he not simply throw the ball out of bounds instead of taking a sack? It seems to me he is trying to protect his completion percentage...right?

 

[TJV]

Rodgers has not played to his standards for most of this year but it's hilarious a certain poster uses this game to go ballistic about it. Barclay had to start at LT and he's a competent backup OG, but he is not a competent OT, let alone LT. Then Bulaga went down. Linsley left the game with an injury or poor performance and had to return so Tretter could go to RT. And Sitton who is the best OL on the team is obviously struggling with an injury. Posting Rodgers had 15 seconds to throw the ball is gross exaggeration anytime, in this game it makes me think the poster didn't actual watch the game.

Also, Rodgers threw an INT "going for it". Those of you who (incredibly) complain about him caring about his stats should applaud him for that: That's what you've been asking for.

 

[Mondio]

Actually almost never had 2 backs in passing plays.

But they also didn't "NEVER" do it either and I'm pretty sure there was one with Kuhn and Lacy on either side of Rodgers, and down he went

They also put a TE with Walker on the right, the result? Sack, fumble, TD. They put lacy on the left to help and Barclay was beaten so badly so quickly, it was also the first Sack, fumble, TD for the Cards. They did all sorts of stuff, and none of it worked.

 

[P-E-Z]

Then if this is the case, why does he not simply throw the ball out of bounds instead of taking a sack? It seems to me he is trying to protect his completion percentage...right?

Well you can only do that if you outside the pocket for one. You have toss it in the direction of someone. It has passed the line scrimage etc. Most of the sacks came with no time to even do that. He dropped back 29 times. He was sacked 9 times. That is plus the hits and knock downs.

btw you ignored the question ...have you have ever played football?

 

[longtimefan]

Then if this is the case, why does he not simply throw the ball out of bounds instead of taking a sack? It seems to me he is trying to protect his completion percentage...right?

Because sometimes he isnt in a position to throw it out of bounds

 

[P-E-Z]

But they also didn't "NEVER" do it either and I'm pretty sure there was one with Kuhn and Lacy on either side of Rodgers, and down he went

They also put a TE with Walker on the right, the result? Sack, fumble, TD. They put lacy on the left to help and Barclay was beaten so badly so quickly, it was also the first Sack, fumble, TD for the Cards. They did all sorts of stuff, and none of it worked.

Khun was in the maybe 6 plays mostly as lead blocker on run plays.

 

[Mondio]

Khun was in the maybe 6 plays mostly as lead blocker on run plays.

so what? he also lined up with Lacy in the backfield, side by side with Rodgers and he was still sacked. 2nd and 7, near end of 2nd quarter. So we do it more? The Packers used a bunch of formations, they couldn't even stand in the way half the time

 

[P-E-Z]

so what? he also lined up with Lacy in the backfield, side by side with Rodgers and he was still sacked. 2nd and 7, near end of 2nd quarter. So we do it more? The Packers used a bunch of formations, they couldn't even stand in the way half the time

If your line is not getting the job done you use two backs. Because it did not work once doesn't mean it won't work.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Barley was completely thrashed out there he looked as bad as Marshall Newhouse. Most Of The Sacks were really the result of the inability of the tackles to move laterally. When Rodgers did "take" a sack it was him waiting for someone to get open. Fox even replayed the receivers being blanketed after two of the sacks. After tonight's performance Packers learned that they should let Barley walk once his contract runs out at the end of the season. He isn't athletic enough to play tackle anymore. He was manhandled. The o line is a mess and nobody can get open. How is Rodgers supposed to fix that?

 

[Mondio]

If your line is not getting the job done you use two backs. Because it did not work once doesn't mean it won't work.

you can use 2 backs, you can use 2TE's, you can use 1back 1 TE, and any multitude of runs, passes, moving pockets, screens, WR screens, TE screens bubble screens, slants, etc. There are a lot of ways to help out an offensive line.

Sure they could have done all those things, the could have kept a TE off the field and Adams for all I care as I find him worthless out there this year, but you should also be able to expect that your OT's can at least stand in the way of a rusher for a second at least. Some of those sacks were so bad, they did nothing but run straight to the quarterback. They didn't have to bull rush, spin move, swim move, club move, in and out, up and under, nothing, no move, no nothing. They just ran straight to the qb, it was that bad at times. GB did use 2 backs, and all sorts of other plays and formations. None of it mattered.

 

[melvin dangerr]

Lack of Talent around him......

 

[P-E-Z]

you can use 2 backs, you can use 2TE's, you can use 1back 1 TE, and any multitude of runs, passes, moving pockets, screens, WR screens, TE screens bubble screens, slants, etc. There are a lot of ways to help out an offensive line.

Sure they could have done all those things, the could have kept a TE off the field and Adams for all I care as I find him worthless out there this year, but you should also be able to expect that your OT's can at least stand in the way of a rusher for a second at least. Some of those sacks were so bad, they did nothing but run straight to the quarterback. They didn't have to bull rush, spin move, swim move, club move, in and out, up and under, nothing, no move, no nothing. They just ran straight to the qb, it was that bad at times. GB did use 2 backs, and all sorts of other plays and formations. None of it mattered.

Virtually the entire O line is playing hurt.....

 

[longtimefan]

You hit the nail on the head. He has absolutely no leadership. Why can he not take responsibility for his poor play? It is completely unacceptable. At least Favre would admit if the Packers lost that he was the mean reason why they lost.

@P-E-Z

He might not have the best talent around him, but even great players go beyond this and make others better. He clearly has not done this and I believe this is why we are not winning games.

http://m.packers.com/news/video/rod...97-4e73-9774-4472fe6f28a9?campaign=sf17733481

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Rodgers has not played to his standards for most of this year but it's hilarious a certain poster uses this game to go ballistic about it. Barclay had to start at LT and he's a competent backup OG, but he is not a competent OT, let alone LT. Then Bulaga went down. Linsley left the game with an injury or poor performance and had to return so Tretter could go to RT. And Sitton who is the best OL on the team is obviously struggling with an injury. Posting Rodgers had 15 seconds to throw the ball is gross exaggeration anytime, in this game it makes me think the poster didn't actual watch the game.

Also, Rodgers threw an INT "going for it". Those of you who (incredibly) complain about him caring about his stats should applaud him for that: That's what you've been asking for.

That offensive line looked like that of a year one expansion team. Rodgers was getting absolutely rocked.

 

[Fishwhisper]

It's quite simple, they are a below average offense with a great quarterback. This formula lends itself to good and poor play. Running backs below average.
Receivers and below average

 

[Mondio]

Virtually the entire O line is playing hurt.....

i know, i've been watching too. The fault with this staff is they mistakenly think our backups are remotely serviceable in that capacity as a back up and try and run an offense like normal when they go in. My only complaint is they don't immediately call plays to help those 2 and build from there, what i'm not complaining about is the fact they didn't do something. They used 2 backs, it resulted in a sack. They used 2 TE's, they used all sorts of combinations of TE's, RB's and formations and play calls and none of them were working. So they use 2 RB's, 2 more skill positions, wasted as blockers because a Tackle can not even stand in the way of a free rusher over and over and over again. I'm not convinced it would have done anything more than what we already witnessed.

 

[Un4GivN]

Barley was completely thrashed out there he looked as bad as Marshall Newhouse. Most Of The Sacks were really the result of the inability of the tackles to move laterally. When Rodgers did "take" a sack it was him waiting for someone to get open. Fox even replayed the receivers being blanketed after two of the sacks. After tonight's performance Packers learned that they should let Barley walk once his contract runs out at the end of the season. He isn't athletic enough to play tackle anymore. He was manhandled. The o line is a mess and nobody can get open. How is Rodgers supposed to fix that?

They also showed 3 of his sacks where his outlet was open but he passed up on them. People tell me he doesn't take sack but look at the 3 and 15 I believe in the second quarter? After the fake punt. Tell me Adams wasn't wide open and Rodgers holds the ball to take a sack waiting for someone 15+ yards down the field to get open. There was also a second down where he rolled out and was clearly out of the pocket and took the sack rather than throw it away. He does this consistently and has for years. Multiple outlets he passed up on in the game. Good or bad it is who he is... He doesn't like check-downs.

The game isn't remotely his fault for losing but he isn't playing well... I don't care how hard you get rocked. You don't fumble the ball (3 times at least that I remember with 2 lost)that much, go down if you have to. But the line isn't causing you to drop the ball on the ground. It's just poor ball security.

Unlike others I didn't really have a problem with his interception, he was trying to make a play but he needed to get the ball up about 4 more feet. Not a bad idea, just bad execution...He under-threw it and JJ had no chance to make a play on a low line drive like that.

The fact is, the offense looks horrible and it's everyone's fault... McCarthy, the line, the wide receivers, running backs, and Rodgers. Embarrassing...

 

[Patriotplayer90]

They also showed 3 of his sacks where his outlet was open but he passed up on them. People tell me he doesn't take sack but look at the 3 and 15 I believe in the second quarter? After the fake punt. Tell me Adams wasn't wide open and Rodgers holds the ball to take a sack waiting for someone 15+ yards down the field to get open. There was also a second down where he rolled out and was clearly out of the pocket and took the sack rather than throw it away. He does this consistently and has for years. Multiple outlets he passed up on in the game. Good or bad it is who he is... He doesn't like check-downs.

The game isn't remotely his fault for losing but he isn't playing well... I don't care how hard you get rocked. You don't fumble the ball (3 times at least that I remember with 2 lost)that much, go down if you have to. But the line isn't causing you to drop the ball on the ground. It's just poor ball security.

Unlike others I didn't really have a problem with his interception, he was trying to make a play but he needed to get the ball up about 4 more feet. Not a bad idea, just bad execution...He under-threw it and JJ had no chance to make a play on a low line drive like that.

The fact is, the offense looks horrible and it's everyone's fault... McCarthy, the line, the wide receivers, running backs, and Rodgers. Embarrassing...

How many QBs have had good games when they have been sacked 9 times? I agree he's having issues, but I put that on the coach, as they are all playing with absolutely no confidence. And the game plan in general just seems poor.

The Cobb in the backfield plays are getting old. It's a good idea, but they haven't run any plays that actually take advantage of any mismatches that might create. It's like watching a college coach who is trying to get his best player involved, but doesn't really have any creative ideas for how to do so.

 

[Un4GivN]

How many QBs have had good games when they have been sacked 9 times? I agree he's having issues, but I put that on the coach, as they are all playing with absolutely no confidence. And the game plan in general just seems poor.

The Cobb in the backfield plays are getting old. It's a good idea, but they haven't run any plays that actually take advantage of any mismatches that might create. It's like watching a college coach who is trying to get his best player involved, but doesn't really have any creative ideas for how to do so.

None... you get sacked 9 times you are going to have a bad day. But realistically 2-3 were on him. He had places to go or the ability to throw it away. 6 is still bad, don't get me wrong... Honestly I think the whole offense is *****, and while i'd love to believe they find a magic potion that leads them to 2010 production on offense. At this point, McCarthy's last 8 weeks of "fixing" the fundamentals and execution hasn't done well anything. Not sure that will change now.

 

[net]

Aaron Rodgers is a bright guy. He sees first hand this team is a house of cards(no pun intended) and realizes the end is nigh. With that offensive line he has to work behind, he will be lucky if he finishes the next two games. They are all beat up, true. But if I was Rodgers, I would personally fine each of his "elite" receivers a grand each time they drop the ball. This is a guesstimate, but I bet they've had 30+ dropped passes this season. I've never seen such a bad case of butterfingers.
Capers lousy defensive scheme and personnel are starting to show for what they really are: not good enough.

 

[Sky King]

i know, i've been watching too. The fault with this staff is they mistakenly think our backups are remotely serviceable in that capacity as a back up and try and run an offense like normal when they go in. My only complaint is they don't immediately call plays to help those 2 and build from there, what i'm not complaining about is the fact they didn't do something. They used 2 backs, it resulted in a sack. They used 2 TE's, they used all sorts of combinations of TE's, RB's and formations and play calls and none of them were working. So they use 2 RB's, 2 more skill positions, wasted as blockers because a Tackle can not even stand in the way of a free rusher over and over and over again. I'm not convinced it would have done anything more than what we already witnessed.

Next man up? It sometimes looks like they're sending a boy in to do a man's job.