Trade for OBJ??

[XPack]

I can’t think of a single player I would NOT want to pay 20-25 million dollars per year to more than OBJ. Maybe Hundley, but OBJ is not far behind.

Janis?

 

[XPack]

Beckham wants to be wanted. He has seen that just about all the other wide receivers from his draft class -- aside from Kelvin Benjamin and Brandin Cooks-- are on their second contracts. Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Marquis Lee, Paul Richardson, Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry -- all of whom were drafted in 2014 along with Beckham -- will pocket more from their teams in 2018 (salaries plus signing bonuses) than Beckham if he plays this season on the $8.5 million fifth-year option from his rookie contract.

That will not sit well with the three-time Pro Bowl receiver. His play when healthy warrants more. It can easily be argued Beckham is the best wide receiver from his draft class. The Giants know it. They just aren’t sure if he can be trusted or if he’s worth the price tag that a player of his caliber would command.

It's not like he's a money hungry machine. Getting throws from AR12 and feeling wanted will play a big role if we decide to get him.

 

[hallzi43]

Still I've now seen 2 articles one from CBS sports mentioning green bay in the top 10 and top 5 most likely Beckham destinations respectively. The CBS article specifically stated the Packers could make a Beckham extension work

Most teams could make it work. Just have to structure it right.

But if anyone probably has the hardline on Beckham it is probably going to be the Rams.

 

[RRyder]

Rumored the Giants want at least two 1sts for him. Everything else about him aside, that and his contract wants make it a no go for this team at this time.

Yep. Also if the Packers were inclined to trade away multiple high picks for the right to pay a guy big money wouldn't Earl Thomas make infinitely more sense also? He'd be cheaper to acquire, wouldn't cost as much on his extension and would make a much bigger impact on the team overall.

(I'm not advocating sending high picks for him but if OBJ continues to pop up in threads it boggles the mind why people wouldn't prefer the all pro, playmaking Saftey who'd come cheaper)

 

[swhitset]

Yep. Also if the Packers were inclined to trade away multiple high picks for the right to pay a guy big money would Earl Thomas make infinitely more sense also? He'd be cheaper to acquire, wouldn't cost as much on his extension and would make a much bigger impact on the team overall.

(I'm not advocating sending high picks for him but if OBJ continues to pop up in threads it boggles the mind why people wouldn't prefer the all pro, playmaking Saftey who'd come cheaper)

Im not sure it's a preference lol... I think there are several people on here that think we can/should have all pros at every position.

 

[gbgary]

Beer, hunting rifles, a casino and cheese curds. If anybody could work up some trouble with those ingredients it would be Beckham.

curds will getcha!

 

[Mondio]

Im not sure it's a preference lol... I think there are several people on here that think we can/should have all pros at every position.

and 4 deep on the depth chart

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I would sooner gouge my eyeballs out with a blunt spoon that see OBJ wearing green and gold.

 

[Mondio]

I would sooner gouge my eyeballs out with a blunt spoon that see OBJ wearing green and gold.

am I correct in assuming you're firmly in the "no" camp in regards to trading for Odell?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

am I correct in assuming you're firmly in the "no" camp in regards to trading for Odell?

You sir are a genius !!

 

[HardRightEdge]

curds will getcha!

I've heard of the "Twinkie defense". Perhaps Beckham could fall back on the "Cheese curd" defense when the inevitable arrest occurs.

"Members of jury, our medical expert will testisfy that curd bloating and excess fat inhibits the ability to differentiate right from wrong."

 

[Mondio]

I've heard of the "Twinkie defense". Perhaps Beckham could fall back on the "Cheese curd" defense when the inevitable arrest occurs.

"Members of jury, our medical expert will testisfy that curd bloating and excess fat inhibits the ability to differentiate right from wrong."

there is a precedence

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyl...in-as-hard-drugs-say-scientists-a3141936.html

 

[HardRightEdge]

there is a precedence

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyl...in-as-hard-drugs-say-scientists-a3141936.html

OK, then, lets make that trade! 4 game suspension reduced to 2 games in arbitration!

 

[HardRightEdge]

am I correct in assuming you're firmly in the "no" camp in regards to trading for Odell?

I know you were not asking me, but just let me say, "no, no, and h*ll no."

 

[hallzi43]

Yep. Also if the Packers were inclined to trade away multiple high picks for the right to pay a guy big money wouldn't Earl Thomas make infinitely more sense also? He'd be cheaper to acquire, wouldn't cost as much on his extension and would make a much bigger impact on the team overall.

(I'm not advocating sending high picks for him but if OBJ continues to pop up in threads it boggles the mind why people wouldn't prefer the all pro, playmaking Saftey who'd come cheaper)

Top 5 WR or guy who was contemplating retirement and also plays the same position as Dix? Not even sure why that is a question if there was a world in which the trades were equal.

 

[XPack]

I would sooner gouge my eyeballs out with a blunt spoon that see OBJ wearing green and gold.

If you were serious, you'd choose an rusty blunt spoon. Faker.

 

[Mondio]

If you were serious, you'd choose an rusty blunt spoon. Faker.

This is buggy we're talking about, the guy has never seen a spoon that wasn't silver. Silver doesn't rust, he probably doesn't even know some are capable

 

[Mondio]

I know you were not asking me, but just let me say, "no, no, and h*ll no."

I'd say the same, but with more adjectives

 

[XPack]

This is buggy we're talking about, the guy has never seen a spoon that wasn't silver. Silver doesn't rust, he probably doesn't even know some are capable

Perhaps we should trade buggy for OBJ?

Both seem to be worth the same financially.

 

[Passepartout]

Great WR but off the field he is nothing but cancer! Locker room and off the field both.

 

[RRyder]

Top 5 WR or guy who was contemplating retirement and also plays the same position as Dix? Not even sure why that is a question if there was a world in which the trades were equal.

Yeah because there is no way to play Earl Thomas and HHCD together. That'd be like "well OBJ plays the same position as Adams" But worse with the year Dix is comming off of. And where did this contemplate retirement talk come from? How bout OBJ talking about refusing to play without a contract that pays him like an elite QB? How bout the fact that adding OBJ comes with diminishing returns where as the other adds to a unit that sorely needs help?

Jesus Christ if you can't even admit to yourself that one of these players would make infinitely more sense then the other then there just no point. You were right on one thing. It's not a question

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I would sooner gouge my eyeballs out with a blunt spoon that see OBJ wearing green and gold.

Just curious why? A passionate desire to see the epidemic of kicking-net violence stopped?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Great WR but off the field he is nothing but cancer! Locker room and off the field both.

I've asked this before but I can't recall any cancerous teammate reports out there. I'm not saying their aren't any, I just don't follow the Giants that closely. I get that he rubs people the wrong way by not being a normal NFL robot, but other than that I haven't heard anything other than he's a terrific worker who practices as hard as anyone in the NFL.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I've asked this before but I can't recall any cancerous teammate reports out there. I'm not saying their aren't any, I just don't follow the Giants that closely. I get that he rubs people the wrong way by not being a normal NFL robot, but other than that I haven't heard anything other than he's a terrific worker who practices as hard as anyone in the NFL.

You don't recall Beckham taking his receiver posse to Miami for a boat outing days before the 2016 playoff game against the Packers? And how Beckham was a no show in that game?

Nobody has explained how the Packers would pay for this guy which should have been a first step in suggesting it.

And even if you can work through all of the knucklehead and cap issues, there's no guarantee he would have this kind of chemistry with Rodgers:

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[hallzi43]

Yeah because there is no way to play Earl Thomas and HHCD together. That'd be like "well OBJ plays the same position as Adams" But worse with the year Dix is comming off of. And where did this contemplate retirement talk come from? How bout OBJ talking about refusing to play without a contract that pays him like an elite QB? How bout the fact that adding OBJ comes with diminishing returns where as the other adds to a unit that sorely needs help?

Jesus Christ if you can't even admit to yourself that one of these players would make infinitely more sense then the other then there just no point. You were right on one thing. It's not a question

Huh? Are you even serious?

Actually no, Thomas and Dix wouldn't both be playing because Pettine runs generally a single high safety and Dix doesn't play well near the box.

No it isn't anything like what you describe because OBJ and Adams are both top 10 WR's and neither play specifically out of the slot. So OBJ is of actual value to not only our offense, but also the other 31 teams in the league. (Also before you say something stupid like well obviously he isn't of value to the Giants. He is the one holding up the contract negotiations.)

I have no worries about Dix next season. But yes, Earl Thomas was mulling over retirement late last season.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...uts-retirement-rumors-to-rest-with-one-tweet/

As far as OBJ holding out before a contract extension that makes him one of if not the highest paid players in the league, we can certainly make that happen. Just as easy as the Rams could make it happen. Sure it would take some finesse from Ball down the road to continue to be as frisky in FA as we are now and also retain some of our best players. Probably would take restructures of not only OBJ's but also Rodgers lucrative contract in 2020 to keep talented teams continuing. But that is what good GM's (or in our case Russ Ball) and players do. They make it work. As long as we are a winning football team.

Not even sure how to reply to OBJ as diminishing returns but Bennett as sorely needed help to our unit. I assume you are talking about straight $$$ because otherwise that is just the silliest thing ever.

I don't know if you are even trying to make sense. I understand that the money has a lot of people on edge about OBJ. But Earl Bennett just honestly doesn't make any sense because he is on the edge of his career, we would have to give up draft picks, and there are players on the market at the safety position of actual need that could be had for next to nothing. One of them being Burnett who we didn't even try for.