Ted Thompson Era Should Be Over

[Pokerbrat2000]

Your going to argue TT didn't try and solve the RB situation throughout the year?

You got an argument at CB I'd wager but RB? Really?

I wasn't arguing that TT didn't try and solve either position, I was arguing that the "moves" he made gravitated towards one dimensional....his own players or cheap.

The "holes" I was referring to at RB were created when TT decided Lacy and Starks were adequate to begin the season. Remember, Monty wasn't a known commodity or even in the discussion at that time. So right out of the gate, TT is saying "these 2 are enough, if need be....we go to Brandon Burks....wait....Jhurell Pressley....wait......Don Jackson.....no....Kniles Davis....wait..Christian Michael" Had Monty not done what he did and I give MM or one of the coaches credit for him, not TT, the Packer running game would have been almost non-existent after Lacy went down.

So yes, TT made some "moves" to try and cover his *** at RB, but again his moves were 5 cheap players, that were either his own PS guys or basically free. IMO, starting the season with only Lacy and Starks at RB, was a poor decision right out of the gate and pretty much everything that followed mimicked what he did with the CB position.

Think Belichick would have done the same with both positions?

 

[pacmaniac]

I just noticed that today the Packers' official Facebook page posted photos from the 2010 Super Bowl celebration. The organization is still living in the past.

 

[ExpatPacker]

The Packers simply haven't done enough to win a SB in the last 6 yrs...and that's exactly why they haven't. The Patriots needed some help at WR..do they promote a guy from the practice squad? No, they sign Malcom Floyd..granted he didn't play much I attribute that to his unfamiliarity with their playbook..but we've seen first hand that he can so. They needed another pass catching Tightend even tho they had an all pro in the slot. Did they wait two or three years to find a guy? No, they sign Martellus Bennett.

This organization is always a day late and a dollar short with everything I swear. TB may very well be the most decorated QB of all time... but by the time Rodgers finishes he will probably Be the best to ever play the position in manys eyes. Including outside of Green Bay. There's a difference between most decorated and best. Unless Rodgers goes to another team I dont see him catching TB unless the Packers go on a Patriot type run which I dont see us ever doing with this front office, and current group running the team. I'm still hopeful Rodgers gets at least 1 more....but even that's dying every season now smh. What a freaking shame.

Rodgers will never catch Tom Brady in terms of SB wins. Brady has 5........1+1+1+1+1. Rodgers has 1 in 7 years. And as long as TT fails to act like more than a college scout, Mark Murphy develops some bawls, and MM talks about pad levels, it's questionable whether the Packers will see another SB appearance again for quite a while.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I hit disagree because this is just ludicrous to assume that MM is telling the guys "it's ok boys, we don't have to go 100% now cuz the real season starts in late November early December." The "getting hot late" thing is not a coaching philosophy, it's a fan's perception of how they believe the season can go if a team starts clicking in the late phases. I'm pretty sure every coach in football looks at every week as a must win.

Sometimes I get the impression that McCarthy is fine starting out slow if the team ends up being hot in December and January. The coaching staff hardly playing any starters during the preseason doesn't change that either.

Your going to argue TT didn't try and solve the RB situiation throughout the year?

You got an argument at CB I'd wager but RB? Really?

It was a terrible decision to enter the season with only two running backs and an even worse one to not add another to the roster before the Cowboys game when Lacy was the only active player at the position after being limited in practice all week and listed as questionable. This resulted in him re-aggravating the ankle injury and being lost for the season.

 

[yooperpackfan]

I just noticed that today the Packers' official Facebook page posted photos from the 2010 Super Bowl celebration. The organization is still living in the past.

So are a lot of the Ted Thompson faithful!

 

[ls1bob]

I know it has been said before,but TT caught lightning in a bottle when he drafted Aaron. If you were to take Aaron away on offense,what kind of team would we have? Other than Jordy,no one really stands out as far as WR's go. Most of our receivers are "thrown" open because of lack of seperation. On defense,he drafted CM3 and gave him a fat contract later and his play has regressed due to injuries and teams figuring out that all you have to do is chip him and he will run himself out of the play. Don't even get me started on Datone Jones. IMO TT is resting on his laurerls and he thinks he is the best and he knows his way is the best for the franchise. I really wish Murphy would do something to push TT out of his comfort zone. Groundhog day every year.

 

[rodell330]

So are a lot of the Ted Thompson faithful!

Exactly haha. As long as Ted can manage to get the Packers into the playoffs and generate revenue they'll never fire this clown.

 

[Mondio]

I wasn't arguing that TT didn't try and solve either position, I was arguing that the "moves" he made gravitated towards one dimensional....his own players or cheap.

The "holes" I was referring to at RB were created when TT decided Lacy and Starks were adequate to begin the season. Remember, Monty wasn't a known commodity or even in the discussion at that time. So right out of the gate, TT is saying "these 2 are enough, if need be....we go to Brandon Burks....wait....Jhurell Pressley....wait......Don Jackson.....no....Kniles Davis....wait..Christian Michael" Had Monty not done what he did and I give MM or one of the coaches credit for him, not TT, the Packer running game would have been almost non-existent after Lacy went down.

So yes, TT made some "moves" to try and cover his *** at RB, but again his moves were 5 cheap players, that were either his own PS guys or basically free. IMO, starting the season with only Lacy and Starks at RB, was a poor decision right out of the gate and pretty much everything that followed mimicked what he did with the CB position.

Think Belichick would have done the same with both positions?

Do you know the circumstances that the Patriots brought Blount back? Just wondering because it sounds a lot like Ted Thompson do.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Do you know the circumstances that the Patriots brought Blount back? Just wondering because it sounds a lot like Ted Thompson do.

On the other hand do you know the circumstances that the Patriots brought in CB Eric Rowe??? That move doesn´t sound like Thompson at all and was perceived as absolutely impossible to pull off by several posters around here.

 

[rodell330]

On the other hand do you know the circumstances that the Patriots brought in CB Eric Rowe??? That move doesn´t sound like Thompson at all and was perceived as absolutely impossible to pull off by several posters around here.

Exactly. It's amazing how many people in here actually believe TT doesn't trade in the middle of the season because it's "impossible " that's bs. He doesn't do it because he doesn't want to give up the resources to do it. Point and case with the Niles Davis debacle. He's always outsmarting himself. Same thing can be said about the year AR got hurt and we didn't have a viable backup qb...but then weeks prior he releases Vince Young who had a pretty good pre season. If the North wasn't garbage that year we don't even make the playoffs. Then the Garbage this year with Sitton. You cut him right before the season is about to start when you probably at least could've gotten a late rd pick for him if you just traded him. Then we're stuck with backups like Barclay and linemen Having to play hurt or on one leg because of lack of depth on the o line.

Once Shields goes down and a few weeks later Randle. What does he do? Promote practice squad guy after practice squad guy who ended up hurt as well. Then your having to use you SS in Burnett in the slot because of no depth and experience at corner. I've said this a hundred times...TT is not as great as he's made out to be. You can put Aaron Rodgers in Cleveland and they probably make the playoffs!!! Take him out of Green Bay and this team is lucky to win 5 games. Reggie McKenzie and Schneider have successfully turned their repsective teams into contenders because they sign free agents. I would love to have either over TT in a heartbeat.

 

[Mondio]

What's equally amazing is that some still call not having to give up anything for kniles Davis a debacle, a RB that bounced to how many teams only to go back to his original when they lost all they other RBs too.

Something else equally amazing is that people watched that super bowl and think it was the DBs that were the difference between the Patriots outcome and the Packers.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Something else equally amazing is that people watched that super bowl and think it was the DBs that were the difference between the Patriots outcome and the Packers.

It was absolutely impossible for the Packers pass rushers to create any pressure on Ryan in the NFCCG as the team´s cornerbacks weren´t able to cover receivers for even two seconds.

 

[rodell330]

What's equally amazing is that some still call not having to give up anything for kniles Davis a debacle, a RB that bounced to how many teams only to go back to his original when they lost all they other RBs too.

Something else equally amazing is that people watched that super bowl and think it was the DBs that were the difference between the Patriots outcome and the Packers.

Missed it there eh skip? The point was that MM was forced to convert a WR into a RB because of the RB debacle. As far as the DBS go? They actually kept Julio from going crazy...ours didn't.

 

[Mondio]

Yes I do know the circumstances and that occurred before the start of the regular season. Had it occurred at the end of October maybe you'd have a point

 

[Mondio]

Missed it there eh skip? The point was that MM was forced to convert a WR into a RB because of the RB debacle. As far as the DBS go? They actually kept Julio from going crazy...ours didn't.

And our converted RB was far better than kniles Davis and we didn't have to give anything else up just to find that out. Their DBs didn't do jack , their pass rush did. Did you watch the game?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Yes I do know the circumstances and that occurred before the start of the regular season. Had it occurred at the end of October maybe you'd have a point

If it´s possible to trade for a cornerback four days before the start of the regular season it´s highly likely a general manager would be to pull off a move like that less than two months later. Just like the Lions did at the trade deadline when they acquired a CB that started 37 games for the Buccaneers since 2013.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Their DBs didn't do jack , their pass rush did. Did you watch the game?

Did you watch the NFCCG and the Super Bowl??? It took the Falcons receivers less than two seconds to gain huge separation from the Packers cornerbacks and while they made plays against the Patriots as well their CBs were at least competitive allowing the pass rushers to put pressure on Ryan.

 

[rodell330]

And our converted RB was far better than kniles Davis and we didn't have to give anything else up just to find that out. Their DBs didn't do jack , their pass rush did. Did you watch the game?

You clearly didn't if you think the Patriots DBS didn't do anything. A DB actually has to allow enough time for the pass rush to get there...maybe you didn't know that tho.

 

[Mondio]

You clearly didn't if you think the Patriots DBS didn't do anything. A DB actually has to allow enough time for the pass rush to get there...maybe you didn't know that tho.

Oh, ok

 

[Pkrjones]

For all of the TT "shortcomings" and roster "holes" the Packers are still highly regarded as Super Bowl LII upper-echelon contenders. I believe this offseason there needs to be significant roster moves (re-signing and/or replacing FA's, draft, cap-casualties). Sun. PM "Pregame.com" page: http://pregame.com/pregame-forums/f/9/t/1632388.aspx
2017-18 Super Bowl Odds

Patriots 7/1
Falcons 12/1
Cowboys 12/1
Packers 12/1
Seahawks 15/1
Broncos 17/1
Steelers 18/1
Raiders 18/1
Chiefs 20/1
Giants 20/1
Colts 30/1
Panthers 30/1
Cardinals 35/1
Vikings 35/1
Bucs 40/1
Texans 40/1
Ravens 42/1
Eagles 48/1
Dolphins 50/1
Titans 50/1
Redskins 60/1
Bengals 70/1
Lions 70/1
Saints 75/1
Chargers 80/1
Bills 80/1
Jags 100/1
Bears 125/1
Rams 150/1
Jets 150/1
Browns 400/1
49ers 400/1

Foxsports has: NE 6-1; Dallas 10-1; GB & Seattle 11-1; Atlanta 11.25-1; and Steelers 15-1 as top 6.

 

[Half Empty]

Dead horse, but that's exactly the point. What good does it do to start, year after year, as a top favorite and not meet those expectations?

 

[rodell330]

Dead horse, but that's exactly the point. What good does it do to start, year after year, as a top favorite and not meet those expectations?

Bingo! I don't except that garbage. Honestly every team could say that . Packers had to win 6 games in a row just to even get in.

 

[Half Empty]

Not sure whether to 'agree' or offer opposing thoughts. Every team could say what (certainly not that they were a perennial top choice and failed)? Last sentence is pretty much true, but I don't quite follow the argument. Please advise.

 

[mongoosev]

Bingo! I don't except that garbage. Honestly every team could say that . Packers had to win 6 games in a row just to even get in.

Which is why they are favorites. They just can't close the deal at the end. How many teams on that list above that are not favorites can pull that off?

 

[gonzozab]

Your going to argue TT didn't try and solve the RB situation throughout the year?

You got an argument at CB I'd wager but RB? Really?

Teddy wouldn't have neeeded to address the RB situation if he would've been smart enough to carry more than two injury prone true RBs going into the season.