Should Rodgers have left?

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I want him to be around to give us the best chance we got.
On the other hand, I wouldn't blame him if he want to another team that may give him what he wants and needs right now. Better coaching and a better team.
Right now I just don't see us as the team to meet his needs except for money.
 

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I don’t think he wanted to be franchise tagged 2-3 times in a row then be painted the villain for not accepting a lucrative deal.
 

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I would be happy if he can hit open receivers, not get stripped of the ball and not ***** about the quick throws that help us win (Buffalo win and shutout) but then get to throw the long behind the receiver, in the ground or hold too long so I have to throw it away passes. He has responsibility in the last game. Fumbles, bad passes. He did not look like a leader last game or sound like one the game before. He needs to **** and follow the game plan, hit the quick openings and act like he is a leader. It would have been cool if he would have sat next to those rookie receivers and talked to them, helped them, rather than sat by himself on the bench like a diva.

His play so far the last few games has been subpar ( for Rodgers). Own it, change it, quite *****en about it. Help the young guys and quit rollin’ your eyes after each play.
 

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I would be happy if he can hit open receivers, not get stripped of the ball and not ***** about the quick throws that help us win (Buffalo win and shutout) but then get to throw the long behind the receiver, in the ground or hold too long so I have to throw it away passes. He has responsibility in the last game. Fumbles, bad passes. He did not look like a leader last game or sound like one the game before. He needs to **** and follow the game plan, hit the quick openings and act like he is a leader. It would have been cool if he would have sat next to those rookie receivers and talked to them, helped them, rather than sat by himself on the bench like a diva.

His play so far the last few games has been subpar ( for Rodgers). Own it, change it, quite *****en about it. Help the young guys and quit rollin’ your eyes after each play.

This seem to be a guy that does not seem to be a diva

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Yeah that was cool, but end of game. Did you watch the game? Every pass not caught, and every pass not thrown well, he looked pretty pissed, up in the air, very much bad body language. When you have rooks out there, and they don’t get the foot drag, don’t roll the eyes and look up like “dear god, what have you done to me?” Go to them and talk them up. Great he was there fit the 10? Year vet. How about be there for the rookies. He is not playing well, not helping the young guys and that is not working right now.
 

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I'm gonna add more fuel to the fire on this thread and take it a step further. I think we're behind by keeping Rodgers. Maholmes is lighting it up, Rosen will, Josh Allen will, Baker Mayfield will, Dak Prescott at times has and will continue to. We have a 34 year old quarter back and haven't drafted a QB in the qb draft classes where all these QBs came out of. It's 1983 35 years later, and once again, no great/hof qb drafted. I'm not saying Rodgers is crap I'm just lookin' 3-4-5 years from now and wondering what the plan is to NOT go 1-15 against great qbs.
 
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I want him to be around to give us the best chance we got.
On the other hand, I wouldn't blame him if he want to another team that may give him what he wants and needs right now. Better coaching and a better team.
Right now I just don't see us as the team to meet his needs except for money.

While Rodgers might be frustrated at the moment because the offense isn't performing up to expectations there's no doubt in my mind that overall he feels absolutely conmfortable being in Green Bay.

When you have rooks out there, and they don’t get the foot drag, don’t roll the eyes and look up like “dear god, what have you done to me?” Go to them and talk them up. How about be there for the rookies. He is not playing well, not helping the young guys and that is not working right now.

Rodgers did exactly what you want him to after the two point conversion failed because MVS and EQ ended up being in the same place.
 
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Every pass not caught, and every pass not thrown well, he looked pretty pissed, up in the air, very much bad body language. When you have rooks out there, and they don’t get the foot drag, don’t roll the eyes and look up like “dear god, what have you done to me?
Then you haven't watched Tom Brady much when someone drops a pass.
 
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It would have been cool if he would have sat next to those rookie receivers and talked to them, helped them, rather than sat by himself on the bench like a diva.


This is the same when Favre was in camp and was the "old man" in the locker room among kids, not mingling with the younger players.
Why this has to happen, I don't know.
 

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Every season he has been here he has essentially had to train a new receiving corps, for the most part. Of our most veteran WRs, Jordy got dealt to Oakland, Cobb is taking his mid-season powder, and Adams is actually playing well for us. For the third year in a row we are starting a completely new group of TEs (we have not had consistency at the position in years and we dumped Cook who was good to blow money on the useless Bennet) and we still have nothing resembling a reliable short yardage runner since we dumped Kuhn off of the roster, let alone an actual power back. And we balance this mediocrity by constantly drafting DBs who end up washing out for the most part in a couple of years and STILL not having anything resembling a strong pass rush or passable LB corps.

Rogers is, from a skills standpoint, one of the best to ever play the game. I still like Favre more (was more entertaining and relatable), but Rogers is the guy other godlike QBs heap praise on. Having said that, he is going to basically collect paychecks for the remainder of his career here which will basically be one and done Martyball for the duration. Our front office is terrible and our HC is someone who is where he is because he had #12 to fall back on to save his bacon. Realistically, if he was going to make another SB McDoofus should have been fired after the Seattle NFC Championship game debacle. I think the two have been bitter since then and we are only now seeing it bubble out into the open for the first time, because you can only bury that resentment for so long. Its also why Favre and Rogers reconciled, because they both went through the same slow dive into mediocrity fueled by bad management and coaching at this point in their careers in GB and they both understand each other a lot better as a result.

So yeah, in a cut throat world where all he cares about are rings, Rogers should have walked away. All this turnover and leaving McCarthy is the equivalent of cutting around the cancer and leaving the tumor in. Things will NOT change as long as McMuffin remains where he is and both Nelson and Rogers knew this. They shipped off Nelson (should have kept him and let Cobb go) but 12 is the one and only person McCarthy can't toss under the bus, so they have slowly gotten rid of his friends around him and cut him out of the personnel discussions to isolate him. McCarthy played this exact game with Favre at the end and Rogers can see that clearly, which is why he is being public with his salt on the issue. The difference is that 12 is the only thing keeping McCarthy employed and he is not as indestructible as Favre was. There is no future HOF guy behind the guy McCarthy is at odds with to step in this time, unless you really believe Kiser is some sort of diamond in the rough (despite overwhelming evidence otherwise). When Rogers is finally done or tosses in the towel, its back to being happy with 8-8 seasons ala Greg/Infanty/Magic Man era. Would be nice to have another championship in this 30 year run of HOF QBs that's about to end, especially in a division as weak as ours. But realistically, Rogers chose the money and (I hope) the fan support over rings, so he likely will not see another one.
 

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I want him to be around to give us the best chance we got.
On the other hand, I wouldn't blame him if he want to another team that may give him what he wants and needs right now. Better coaching and a better team.
Right now I just don't see us as the team to meet his needs except for money.
New GM and he has made a lot of moves. Give him a couple years, I think MM is on the hot seat.
 

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Rodgers couldn't have left, isn't going to leave, and IMO he wanted to stay here anyway. Is he unhappy with certain aspects here, does he wish his time here could have been more successful? Of course. His career isn't over, there is still time to right the ship. With his injury history and style of play though, you wonder if he is going to have the longevity of a Brady or a Brees.
 

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i don't have any problem with what Jennings said. it's not like there isn't tape of Rodgers to back up what he's saying. we've all seen it. wish we could hear what he says when they come back from a play that didn't go well. does he say "that's on me."? we did see him bark at MVS after a near pick-6 (when there were other guys WIDE open and he wasn't under duress) when he was covered like a blanket and the ball had no business being thrown to him. i bet that went over well in the film room.
 

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At the end of the day he is human. But really, he is probably hitting a frustration level with the entire team on his back and is forcing things as a result. The only clear regression I have seen is him holding on to the ball longer than normal. If people around here recall, Favre did the same thing when the franchise painted us in a corner near the end of his tenure. Also, we already know what McNugget looks like without Rodgers under center with his "ideal backup" in place. We have yet to see the reverse and I think its about time.
 

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I would be happy if he can hit open receivers, not get stripped of the ball and not ***** about the quick throws that help us win (Buffalo win and shutout) but then get to throw the long behind the receiver, in the ground or hold too long so I have to throw it away passes. He has responsibility in the last game. Fumbles, bad passes. He did not look like a leader last game or sound like one the game before. He needs to **** and follow the game plan, hit the quick openings and act like he is a leader. It would have been cool if he would have sat next to those rookie receivers and talked to them, helped them, rather than sat by himself on the bench like a diva.

His play so far the last few games has been subpar ( for Rodgers). Own it, change it, quite *****en about it. Help the young guys and quit rollin’ your eyes after each play.
So essentially you want Rodgers to behave differently then he's ever behaved?

He is who he is at this point. Expecting him to be the kind of leader that wraps his arms around teammates and sugarcoats certain topics is setting yourself up for disappointment. Like it or not, Rodgers is who he is. And he's been consistent with his personality since becoming the starter in '08.

Did he throw McCarthy under the bus after the Buffalo game? Yep. Is it the first time he's done that? Nope. But Rodgers stepped up after the game this past Sunday and said everything starts with him and that he needs to play better and that he will play better.

That's about the best you're going to get from Rodgers. You may or may not like that, but that's who he is.
 

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If AR wanted out of GB, the NFC Championship meltdown in Seattle would have been the time to call down the thunder because either he or MM would have been gone. He didn't and the team has not had anything resembling swagger since that disaster. Every year things get more tenuous than the last and the only constants left are MM, AR, and Clayfaker (he is a separate topic). So between the two, does anyone think AR is more likely the problem with this team? Or is it the guy who calls for a 56yd FG when his kicker is having a bad day to completely shatter the guy with the game in the balance? That's one example among many of the offensive comedy stylings of Coach Staypuff. The other recent one was abandoning the running game after two series when we were averaging 5ypc against the worst run D in the league. I guess AR audibles out of every run or something is the likely apologist line, but I am pretty certain given MMs track record of trashing other to save his own butt that he would have said something pad-level related about AR after these games.
 

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I take anything Greg says about the Packers with a grain of salt, especially on a blow hard show like that. Rodgers didn't act any different to Brady when he's not happy with the way things are going. These guys demand from the team as much as they demand from themselves.
Greg still has Aaron in his mouth. Greg favre and Aaron made you, you were a ghost after them. I’m sorry but Jennings only gets herd when he has Aaron in his mouth.
 

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But can you believe we had at one point Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb, Donald Driver, and Jermichael Finley on the field together?!
Asdfghjklbdryhv!!!
 

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Greg Jennings going on Cowherd and saying something negative about Rodgers is like Hillary Clinton going on The View and saying something negative about Trump.
 

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While I don't really acknowledge the subject of this thread, he stayed, he is here, going anywhere else didn't guarantee him squat, move forward.

What I am shocked at, is that I actually agree with Cow Turd for a change. If AR has one fault as a QB, IMO its his making his teammates feel like crap with his demeanor on the field. Rubs me as a fan the wrong way too. Yes Aaron you are one of the best all time QB's that ever played the game, but get over it. Plays don't always go the way they are drawn up, guys make mistakes and playing like you are disgusted isn't working for your teammates or to elevate your own game either. It makes you look like you have given up, whether you have or haven't. Why should your teammates elevate their games if it looks like you are checked out?
 

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