Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Pokerbrat2000]

Every contract in business has an exit strategy, or out clause, in case of an early termination. In such cases the contracts are deemed lawfully honored so long as the out clause was honored in full. Whether it be sports or a corporate job, out clauses usually entail paying the terminated person at least 25% of the remaining amount on the contract within a set time period.

???

Are you suggesting that the NFL switch to allowing a player to terminate their contract if they pay the team 25% of the remainder of the contract, as well as the team has the right/obligation to do that too?

Man, that would change the look of football forever. A first contract guy that was an instant success would be switching teams in no time!

 

[G0P4ckG0]

???

Are you suggesting that the NFL switch to allowing a player to terminate their contract if they pay the team 25% of the remainder of the contract, as well as the team has the right/obligation to do that too?

Man, that would change the look of football forever. A first contract guy that was an instants success would be switching teams in no time!

No no no...I mean if the employer terminates the contract. I know of zero contracts where the employee can resign and get a payout (unless they resigned for good cause and took a employer to court for damages)

 

[Ogsponge]

All contracts are written in such a way that usually provide both sides with outs. When you say that a team can cut a player at anytime and that doing so does "not honor the contract" you are really attempting to throw shade that isn't there. Cutting or keeping a player honors the terms of the contract. Now you might think its "dishonorable" for a team to invoke one of the terms of the contract and cut a player? That is a completely different matter and is more of a moral issue. If that is the case, look around at all professional sports and tell me that this practice isn't "business as usual" in all major sports. Why? Because teams aren't going to keep paying you when you are no longer earning what they contracted you to do and they can get someone else that is either better, cheaper or both to do the same work.

You might not like it, but that is professional sports. Many players negotiate upfront guaranteed money, I am sure you are fine with them keeping that, even if they don't earn it all?

I am not throwing shade on anything and You don’t have your facts right.

Do some research, it is not common at all MLB contracts signed via extension or free agency are guaranteed, nearly every NBA contract is fully guaranteed and since there are no other major sports, it is only common in football. To be clear in those cases I mentioned if they cut you, they still have to pay you, hell in baseball if you get injured they still have to pay you even if you did not play a single pitch for an entire season.

You may not like it but the NFL does the best job of being able to completely screw their employees by not having to honor contracts.


I am not talking morally at all, I am simply talking about the facts.

To cover your last sentence, yes I am because that is the way it should be since the team does not have to honor the contract if they so choose. If teams had to honor all contracts fully, as they do in baseball and basketball, you would not see 1 of 53 players getting paid 1/5 of the salary cap.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You may not like it but the NFL does the best job of being able to completely screw their employees by not having to honor contracts.

How do you keep thinking that they aren't honoring their contracts in the NFL? You just don't like the terms of the contracts. If you like baseball contracts, watch baseball, but NFL contracts have been for the most part non-guaranteed forever.

Again, I am not debating why contracts in the NFL differ from those in MLB and the NBA, but yes for the most part the NFL doesn't guarantee salaries. If you are looking for why that is, the best rationale for that is risk. The NFL has ten times more injuries per game than the closest professional league measured — the NHL. If you want NFL owners to suddenly change to all guaranteed contracts, I think you will see the natural process evolve into pricing those contracts to include the risk side of guaranteeing them. In other words, players will be paid less and get less upfront guaranteed money. NFL careers are so risky, the risk-adjusted contract would be significantly discounted to reflect that risk.

 

[OldSchool101]

To be clear, I have no problem with a fan taking a stance on what they believe in

It sure doesn’t across that way, but I can see how you may have been directing that 1 on 1, so I apologize I just don’t think all fans who disagree should be mischaracterized as butt hurt. I’ll give you the benefit that was intended for those calling him names. I can see that.

NFL contracts are so lopsided in favor of the team as they can simply can cut you at any time and not honor the contract or at least the not guaranteed portion. Let’s stop pretending like NFL Teams honor contracts unless said contract is written in a fashion to tremendously benefit them.

So don’t sign the contract! Do you not think his attorney read one word?
Next time just say “I refuse to sign an extension because you guys treat people like they are crap”. Stand up for what you believe in regardless of the $$
Oh wait! He conveniently forgot because $100mil was on the table in guaranteed.
While I can Agree that I might handle the players exit differently.. like Jordy and Cobb etc.. that doesn’t mean these guys have to do it my way either. It’s not that Rodgers has concerns or whatever, it’s how he is continuing to allow this to turn into a fan Malay. Really strange way to show how much you love someone. His words not mine.
I get why people get tricked and idolize some persons. But give me a neighbor who shovels my sidewalk without asking when my leg is broken over some guy that throws a pigskin around and makes $30mil a season and has an overinflated ego. I don’t feel 1% sorry, I see a guy who is complaining when he should be thanking God for what he’s been given.

 

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[Sunshinepacker]

It sure doesn’t across that way, but I can see how you may have been directing that 1 on 1, so I apologize I just don’t think all fans who disagree should be mischaracterized as butt hurt. I’ll give you the benefit that was intended for those calling him names. I can see that.

So don’t sign the contract! Do you not think his attorney read one word?
Next time just say “I refuse to sign an extension because you guys treat people like they are crap”. Stand up for what you believe in regardless of the $$
Oh wait! He conveniently forgot because $100mil was on the table in guaranteed.
While I can Agree that I might handle the players exit differently.. like Jordy and Cobb etc.. that doesn’t mean these guys have to do it my way either. It’s not that Rodgers has concerns or whatever, it’s how he is continuing to allow this to turn into a fan Malay. Really strange way to show how much you love someone. His words not mine.
I get why people get tricked and idolize some persons. But give me a neighbor who shovels my sidewalk without asking when my leg is broken over some guy that throws a pigskin around and makes $30mil a season and has an overinflated ego. I don’t feel 1% sorry, I see a guy who is complaining when he should be thanking God for what he’s been given.

But most people would prefer playing a game for $30 million to shoveling a sidewalk for free. They could always hire someone to shovel their sidewalk if they break their leg or, even better, hire a bunch of guys to stand with umbrellas over the sidewalk so it never gets covered in snow.

 

[sschind]

Well I'm not trying to sell clicks or anything else. But I do think everyone would get tired of me saying "if what we know is true, then....."

I would love to wake up to news that this was a Russian Hoax or an elaborate practical joke that Rodgers decided to play. I don't think that is happening though and until something actually breaks one way or another and we do have a clear picture, I just enjoy trying to put the puzzle together with each small piece that comes my way.

Isn't that what Schefter said he did? Look what he started.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Isn't that what Schefter said he did? Look what he started.

Schefter definitely removed the puzzle box lid, but those pieces inside the box had been slowly accumulating, really from Day #1 of the 2005 draft. I think we all have been seeing the individual pieces as they formed, but were unsure or afraid to try to fully put them all together to see what image was there. I don't think all the pieces are there yet to form a complete image, but sadly, it seems like we are just waiting to see the color of the jersey that Rodgers is wearing after the Puzzle is completed.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Opinion? I would call it an observation made by many and a correct one at that. Rodgers has rarely been straight up with things. Instead he likes to talk around them vaguely and indirectly. This seems to be his way of trying to intellectually separate himself from the rest of us.

It's still significantly better than Florio making things up out of thin air.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's still significantly better than Florio making things up out of thin air.

I would disagree. Guys like Florio are paid to speculate and draw viewers in with whatever they can. You might not like that and I don't like how some do it either. The Packers aren't paying Florio either. Rodgers is currently employed by the Packers.

Rodgers on the other hand, his job isn't to create drama and draw viewers into it. So no, I disagree with you and in this case agree with Florio. If Rodgers chooses to fan the drama flames with his passive aggressive cryptic crap, then I don't think he is helping the team that pays him big money one bit.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I would disagree. Guys like Florio are paid to speculate and draw viewers in with whatever they can. You might not like that and I don't like how some do it either. The Packers aren't paying Florio either. Rodgers is currently employed by the Packers.

Rodgers on the other hand, his job isn't to create drama and draw viewers into it. So no, I disagree with you and in this case agree with Florio. If Rodgers chooses to fan the drama flames with his passive aggressive cryptic crap, then I don't think he is helping the team that pays him big money one bit.

I definitely prefer not to listen to anything guys like Florio and others have to say while solely speculating.

Rodgers didn't create any drama. That was Schefter who decided to break the story on draft day without having any new information.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers didn't create any drama. That was Schefter who decided to break the story on draft day without having any new information.

Come on man...."Rodgers didn't create any drama"? Stop and think about that statement in the big picture of things.

 

[OldSchool101]

Rodgers didn't create any drama. That was Schefter who decided to break the story on draft day without having any new information.

Captain it doesn't matter either way (if Rodgers was complicit in the timing of all that craziness or not). Aaron Rodgers has had plenty of opportunities to address the media and has chosen to avoid setting the record straight. In legal terms they call that being an "accessory after the fact" (by not participating in clearing the issue at hand in attempting to undermine the draft). This was well known information and it shouldn't have been ignored IMO.

 

[longtimefan]

News coming per Jason Wilde

Sounds hopeful

 

[tynimiller]

News coming per Jason Wilde

Sounds hopeful

Where? If your post had anything linked or embedded I'm not seeing it?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

News coming per Jason Wilde

Sounds hopeful

One thing I was waiting to potentially hear today was an Aaron Rodgers sighting in Green Bay. If that happens, we assume he is there to practice tomorrow or maybe just clearing his locker out.

 

[longtimefan]

One thing I was waiting to potentially hear today was an Aaron Rodgers sighting in Green Bay. If that happens, we assume he is there to practice tomorrow or maybe just clearing his locker out.

Gute will ship it to him

Side note sounds like everyone of the wr will be at camp

 

[longtimefan]

Where? If your post had anything linked or embedded I'm not seeing it?

On air

Steve homer true radio show..espn milwaukee..

 

[OldSchool101]

I know no news is good news, but what does "coming" news mean? Isn't that a form of no news? Is this good news? What on earth's name is going on with the news lately

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

From Rodgers Twitter Page. I guess he views himself as a Luke Skywalker type?

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Side note sounds like everyone of the wr will be at camp

So our WR room will be at around 75% of the rest of the NFL's?

 

[tynimiller]

So our WR room will be at around 75% of the rest of the NFL's?

Any WR room that has Adams in it is no where near that low compared to the rest of the league. You could give me nothing but UDFA's from this year with him and I'd disagree with that LOL

 

[OldSchool101]

So our WR room will be at around 75% of the rest of the NFL's?

Poker. Did you have any idea of how prophetic your "Armchair QB" mission statement would be? It's rubbed off on Rodgers

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Any WR room that has Adams in it is no where near that low compared to the rest of the league. You could give me nothing but UDFA's from this year with him and I'd disagree with that LOL

Of course I said that tongue in cheek, with the addition of The Other Rodgers, the Packers are now at around 80%